Gun violence in Thailand: A problem that can't be solved?

[anon4637435435]

Can't be solved with an incompetent government and police force. Everybody should carry a gun. Even my wife does. After years of police never even coming out to arrest people stealing stuff from my property and shooting at my house i thought it best to take up arms because all though the consequences of having such isnt good the thought of some stupid envious prick killing my family i wouldnt hesitate to take out as many pricks as i could as a lesson to others and atleast make the consequences worthwhile.

On a side note. Im against guns and violence but you cant take a knife to an gun fight so when in roam...... 

[Lacessit]

Strange, I don't seem to be hearing of gun massacres in Thailand like they have in the USA. Then again, most Thais don't seem to have access to the semi-automatics so beloved by American supporters of the NRA. Perhaps it's purely co-incidental.

[sambum]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Strange, I don't seem to be hearing of gun massacres in Thailand like they have in the USA. Then again, most Thais don't seem to have access to the semi-automatics so beloved by American supporters of the NRA. Perhaps it's purely co-incidental.

And if they did?

[Lacessit]

6 minutes ago, sambum said:

And if they did?

I'd expect murders to trend higher. After all, semi-automatics are more efficient at killing people.

[BangkokReady]

6 hours ago, Zack61 said:

Says a lot about the Thai brand Of Buddhism and how far departed they are from it’s peaceful teachings. The corrupted brand of Buddhism practiced here promotes this behaviour. If they could eliminate the problem they have with face I’m certain the gun problem would improve markedly. 

When compared to other Buddhist countries Thailand is streets ahead in the gun violence stakes and when criminals are allowed refuge with a change of gowns this speaks volumes for their acceptance of the problem. 

I often think about how "un-Buddhist" Thailand seems. With monks that smoke, drink, fight, have smart phones, etc., how can they expect anyone to be a good Buddhist?

 

From what little I know of Buddhism, desire and attachment are things that practitioners should constantly be trying to avoid. Yet the Thai version of Buddhism seems to work more like a justification for acting without any consideration; you can do what you want then make merit afterwards! ?

[Lucky mike]

Most Buddhist by name but not by action !

[sawadee1947]

Don't allow any sorts of guns. 

It's common sense that there are less murders in countries without guns. 

And proven! 

Compare US and any EU country 

[Jujijuji]

6 hours ago, hansnl said:

I think most crimes with guns are done with illegal guns.

And that's exactly where police forces all over the world can't do anything about.

Spot on. it is extremely easy to get access and hold a gun here. No serial number, nothing asked... Cash works fast and easy

[Damrongsak]

5 hours ago, connda said:

... Then they call for knives to be taken away from the average citizens.  Afterward they'll demand the ban of forks, spoons, and chopsticks for the average citizen...

Don't need them to eat som tum and sticky rice.  If they ban satay sticks, we're screwed.  Then only criminals will have satay.

[Stargeezr]

Thailand has a gun problem, and a lot of guns are shipped there from Europe, Russia and America.

  As long as the criminals have their supplies, this problem will exist, and many more will die.

Just like in America, Russia, Europe and the rest of the world.

Geezer

 

[Redline]

Let’s look at the lottery as an example 

[Jimdandy]

I do not even feel safe going to Siam Paragon in BKK anymore. Sukhumvit is out of the question.

[Happyman58]

Ok here is one thing I noticed in Thailand since I have been here. On tv, most movies on the screen have violence in them. Shooting, Fighting, In fact, I don't think I have seen many movies where it's about a peaceful story.  That must have an effect on the society here.

[William C F Pierce]

The story is from 2006. Still the news travels fast in Thailand these days.

[peperobi]

Is it to easy to get a gun here in Thailand and very difficult for the police to take it over.

[bkkgriz]

2 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

Not by hand guns..... How you figure that? 

So murder is just fine as long as it is not done by a gun. That is some twisted logic.

[BigC]

In a world where there are so many guns I need one to keep

my family safe 

 

I beleive more licensed guns should be issued 

 

 

 

 

 

[bangrak]

19 hours ago, hansnl said:

I think most crimes with guns are done with illegal guns.

And that's exactly where police forces all over the world can't do anything about.

Police forces can't do anything about (most crimes being committed with) illegal guns, the more so in countries where police would be a major source of illegal guns, wouldn't you say, like in ..., damn, can't remember the name just now.

[Rhys]

just sad... 

 

[bangrak]

23 minutes ago, BigC said:

In a world where there are so many guns I need one to keep

my family safe 

 

I beleive more licensed guns should be issued 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with you BUT under three conditions:

1) To become a license to (purchase and) keep a gun inside the place(!) you are registered at (like 99% of the ones delivered now), every applicant should first be trained (and tested) about how to manipulate a gun safely, and show her/his ability to shoot a (same category of) gun (as the one asking a license for) with a minimum of accuracy (like 5 shots out of 10 'in the black' of a C50 target at 10m. distance for handguns?).

2) To keep a license valid, every 'x' years, the holder should take the initiative to present her/his gun(s !) to the issuing(!) police authority for a renewed term.

3) Very, harsh penalties for persons carrying guns on themselves (extra strong when caught in a public place, or at a reachable spot in a vehicle!

[Nice Boyd]

The coppers should be made to turn in their guns instead of selling them to gangsters 

[bangrak]

20 hours ago, Happy enough said:

A step in the right direction updating and making a central database for licenses then having to have licenses renewed etc. (if that ever happens) IMO won't change anything with regards gun crimes and illegal guns as i can't see something like a gun amnesty bringing up much in thailand. that would be like giving money away. so no, nothing's going to change IMO

As far as I know, there is a central database, but how well it is working (and kept up to date) 'might be' an issue...

As about many other things, the local police is much, much, better 'informed' than most might think, and know who is holding (IMO most) illegal guns (1, 2, million?).

The issue might rather be what the BiBs do with their intel...

[bangrak]

14 hours ago, sambum said:

Beat me to that one!

 

"And for those who believe that firearms should be banned, well folks, lets start with banning vehicles instead as vehicles are responsible for more deaths in Thailand than guns or other weapons."

 

And "every one should have the right to bear arms"? And "guns don't kill people - people do"?  "Land of the "free"?

"roam?"

"Rome"?

[bangrak]

13 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

Don't allow any sorts of guns. 

It's common sense that there are less murders in countries without guns. 

And proven! 

Compare US and any EU country 

I'm not at all sure that there are not quite some EU countries (or regions of) where injuries caused by armed criminals are as high as in most of the states in the US.

Being a EU citizen myself, I could name you quite a few, but don't want to tarnish the reputation of whole countries, while mostly the problem is 'localised' and often alien (criminality) related (oops, what did I write).

Of course, letting people have semi-automatic (army grade assault) rifles, most of can be 'tuned' to shoot in 'full-auto' bursts, is totally insane, and should be banned at once, with retro-active effect!

[silverhawk_usa]

One positive note I saw in this article was the idea of having to renew weapon licenses.  I think this would be beneficial in my home country. Particularly where mental health issues are concerned.  Yes, compliance, as always, is a problem.

[sukhumvitneon]

15 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Strange, I don't seem to be hearing of gun massacres in Thailand like they have in the USA. Then again, most Thais don't seem to have access to the semi-automatics so beloved by American supporters of the NRA. Perhaps it's purely co-incidental.

Because the handguns depicted at the gun store in the article aren't semi auto or anything.

 

That was a good try though.

[wvavin]

It must be a mistake. Thailand is a very peaceful Buddhist country. There is no violence in this place at all.....LOL

[anon789561]

1 hour ago, bangrak said:

As far as I know, there is a central database, but how well it is working (and kept up to date) 'might be' an issue...

As about many other things, the local police is much, much, better 'informed' than most might think, and know who is holding (IMO most) illegal guns (1, 2, million?).

The issue might rather be what the BiBs do with their intel...

no there isn't. they have paper trails of licenses issued across districts with many out of date records and are looking at making a central database and loading all the scattered info onto a computer. as it said in the article

[connda]

18 hours ago, jvs said:

Let me guess,pro Trump?

Swing and a miss jvs.  Nice try.
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No candidate at this time has the American people's best interests in mind.  And I have no interest in any of the DC Swamp critters nor their corporate sock-puppets who pose as 'elected officials' who you may mistakenly believe represent your interests.  But they don't. 

[BigC]

I love guns. I like these gun laws but I wish Forangs could legally own guns. Specially expats with business to protect