Thai logic. When tomorrow morning is still todays date

[electric]

It's 8.30pm Friday night 25th May as I type this.

 

At 1 minute past midnight, it's Saturday 26th May ..... right ?

 

I'm sure all expats would agree.

 

Not my wife. She tells me that all Thai's consider anything up till around 6am tomorrow morning as still being the 25th.

 

This amusing and slightly frustrating conversation came about because Channel 36 has been advertising the UEFA football live for 1.45am on 26th May.

 

Beaut I thought. That's Saturday morning. I'll get up to watch that.

 

Mrs Electric chirped up "No .... it's on Sunday morning ... not Saturday morning"

 

"What ? .... Channel 36 says 1.45am on the 26th. That's Saturday morning"

 

Anyway .... turns out she's right. They really do consider 1am 2am 3am 4am 5am as being yesterdays date.

 

Phwrrrr ... try this logic with your wife/girlfriend. See how far you get.

 

 

 

 

[samsensam]

 

haha! don't assume the thai population as a whole lacks the basic common sense displayed by your wife. non of my thai friends, or even their children, would agree with your wife's assertion.

[The manic]

They have a different time system and year system. Try learning it rather than impose your western systems on them. Or use a day /date combined with 24 clock....that works for both cultures. 

[KhunBENQ]

1 hour ago, electric said:

This amusing and slightly frustrating conversation came about because Channel 36 has been advertising the UEFA football live for 1.45am on 26th May.

?

Did they advertise on the TV program or where have you seen this?

Their website is clear: (Sunday) 27th, 01:00 is the start of the live transmission.

Maybe it was not about Thai logic but just that your wife knew that it has to be Sunday morning?

[poohy]

20 minutes ago, The manic said:

They have a different time system and year system. Try learning it rather than impose your western systems on them. Or use a day /date combined with 24 clock....that works for both cultures. 

Regardless of their Thai quirks ( to put it politely) anything after midnight on 25 is 26  UP to them if they think differently let them catch a plane and see what happens

[merijn]

4 hours ago, The manic said:

They have a different time system and year system. Try learning it rather than impose your western systems on them. Or use a day /date combined with 24 clock....that works for both cultures. 

They have a different year counting (They start with the year 1 instead of 0 ) but the time and dates are the same.

Even for Thai's, everything after midnight is for the next day. ?

 

[electric]

Thanks for your comments guys. I've personally experienced this quirky logic several times before, especially when verbally trying to book a NCA bus ticket over the counter for 00.10am departure.

 

Twice, tickets were printed with the wrong travel date.

 

Eventually, I had to request a ticket for todays date, even though the departure was early tomorrow morning. The ticket seller understood immediately and then printed a ticket with the correct travel date (tomorrows date)

 

To the sceptics, I say again, actually ask your wife what she would ask for with the above ticket scenario. 00.10am departure. You may be surprised.

 

(And yes .... my wife does understand that tomorrow starts at midnight. Thanks.)

[JaiMaai]

They have a different year counting (They start with the year 1 instead of 0 ) but the time and dates are the same.
Even for Thai's, everything after midnight is for the next day. [emoji846]
 

The Western calendar goes from 1 BC to 1 AD.

No year 0 there either....

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[1FinickyOne]

I have had friends get confused about airline tkt dates too... but usually if crossing many time zones... and a dateline.. 

 

I would normally say Mrs. Electric is unplugged... but if she is right, go with it. 

[atyclb]

18 hours ago, electric said:

Not my wife. She tells me that all Thai's consider anything up till around 6am tomorrow morning as still being the 25th.

 

 

why burden us, you are the one that said "i do" at the wedding

[Tom89]

The Japanese do something similar. You often see bar and restaurant business hours listed as something like 17.00-27.00.

[LivinLOS]

8 hours ago, electric said:

Thanks for your comments guys. I've personally experienced this quirky logic several times before, especially when verbally trying to book a NCA bus ticket over the counter for 00.10am departure.

 

Twice, tickets were printed with the wrong travel date.

 

Eventually, I had to request a ticket for todays date, even though the departure was early tomorrow morning. The ticket seller understood immediately and then printed a ticket with the correct travel date (tomorrows date)

 

To the sceptics, I say again, actually ask your wife what she would ask for with the above ticket scenario. 00.10am departure. You may be surprised.

 

(And yes .... my wife does understand that tomorrow starts at midnight. Thanks.)

My wife thinks thats nonsense..

Only for bumpkins and rural fools perhaps. 

[LivinLOS]

8 hours ago, electric said:

Eventually, I had to request a ticket for todays date, even though the departure was early tomorrow morning. The ticket seller understood immediately and then printed a ticket with the correct travel date (tomorrows date)

 

To the sceptics, I say again, actually ask your wife what she would ask for with the above ticket scenario. 00.10am departure. You may be surprised.

She would ask for a ticket for 'tonight'.. Same as in english.. 

 

She wouldnt ask for a ticket for tomorrow night, even though it is past midnight and technically tomorrow (in the night), same as you wouldnt in english.. 

 

It stops being tonight, and starts being tomorrow morning, similar to in english, at dawn.. 

 

No one asks for todays date tickets in the night or tomorrows date tickets for either situation. This evening, tonight, tomorrow morning.. Thum, dtii, chao.. 

[TKDfella]

7 hours ago, JaiMaai said:

The Western calendar goes from 1 BC to 1 AD.

No year 0 there either....

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Hmmm, the zero is implied but not specifically stated such as 'during 1 AD...' or '...before the end of year 1 AD...' It's rather like counting; generally we say 1,2,...9,10. On the other hand if you want to count ten seconds it's 0 & 1_s &2_s &3_s ..... &10_s. If you start from 1 then only 9 seconds has elapsed. Yep all a bit confusing, Ha!

[MaeJoMTB]

What, not using the Thai  six hour clock!

Midnight – thiang kheun
1am – dtii neung 
2am – dtii sawng
3am – dtii saam
4am – dtii sii 
5am – dtii haa

6am – hok mohng chao
7am – jet mohng chao
8am – paet mohng chao
9am – gao mohng chao
10am – sip mohng chao
11am – sip-et mohng chao

12.00 (midday) – thiang
1pm – bai mohng
2pm – bai sawng mohng
3pm – bai saam mohng
4pm – bai sii mohng
5pm – bai haa mohng

6pm – hok mohng yen
7pm – neung thum
8pm – sawng thum
9pm – saam thum
10pm – sii thum
11 pm – haa thum

[TKDfella]

10 hours ago, JaiMaai said:

The Western calendar goes from 1 BC to 1 AD.

No year 0 there either....

Sent from my TA-1021 using Tapatalk
 

Hmmm, the zero is implied but not specifically stated such as 'during 1 AD...' or '...before the end of year 1 AD...' It's rather like counting; generally we say 1,2,...9,10. On the other hand if you want to count ten seconds it's 0 & 1_s &2_s &3_s ..... &10_s. If you start from 1 then only 9 seconds has elapsed. Yep all a bit confusing, Ha!

[jgarbo]

On 5/25/2018 at 9:13 PM, The manic said:

They have a different time system and year system. Try learning it rather than impose your western systems on them. Or use a day /date combined with 24 clock....that works for both cultures. 

Thai uses a six hour division of time but the days still end at 24.00 and start at 00.00. The man's wife is either joking and uneducated.

[superal]

12 hours ago, MaeJoMTB said:

What, not using the Thai  six hour clock!

Midnight – thiang kheun
1am – dtii neung 
2am – dtii sawng
3am – dtii saam
4am – dtii sii 
5am – dtii haa

6am – hok mohng chao
7am – jet mohng chao
8am – paet mohng chao
9am – gao mohng chao
10am – sip mohng chao
11am – sip-et mohng chao

12.00 (midday) – thiang
1pm – bai mohng
2pm – bai sawng mohng
3pm – bai saam mohng
4pm – bai sii mohng
5pm – bai haa mohng

6pm – hok mohng yen
7pm – neung thum
8pm – sawng thum
9pm – saam thum
10pm – sii thum
11 pm – haa thum

Any idea of the logic behind this , when was it created and is it only Thailand that does this ?

[rhodie]

You are over thinking this. It's like when you go out on a Saturday night until 2am. The next day someone says "What time did you get home last night?" You would say 2. Or 2am, but is still refered to as last night. 

[sirineou]

 in the past people did not have clocks. they did not know when it was 12 am . In an agrarian society the start of the day was when the sun comes up. 

[Odysseus123]

On 5/27/2018 at 2:24 PM, sirineou said:

 in the past people did not have clocks. they did not know when it was 12 am . In an agrarian society the start of the day was when the sun comes up. 

That is often true.

 

Naval time generally commenced at 12 midday.Traditional Roman Catholic time generally commenced at 6pm.

[kannot]

On 5/25/2018 at 9:37 PM, poohy said:

Regardless of their Thai quirks ( to put it politely) anything after midnight on 25 is 26  UP to them if they think differently let them catch a plane and see what happens

Worse  still hope they arent piloting it!!

[Berkshire]

Where do farangs find such nutty Thai wives?  I know dozens of Thais and none of them have a view of time like the OP's wife.  Nutty.

[The manic]

On 5/27/2018 at 7:24 AM, jgarbo said:

Thai uses a six hour division of time but the days still end at 24.00 and start at 00.00. The man's wife is either joking and uneducated.

Or charmingly quirky and imaginative. Time is an artificial construct. Look at the Louisiana  term : we worked from " no see um till no see um." 

[Kinnock]

On ‎5‎/‎27‎/‎2018 at 7:24 AM, superal said:

Any idea of the logic behind this , when was it created and is it only Thailand that does this ?

I've heard it dates back to when the temple bells were used to signal the time to the village.  So the time periods were sounded out using bells and gongs.

 

The same timing system can still be seen today in Baccarra - where the girls take off their tops to signal the time rather than using gongs.  (I may have made up one or more these facts)

[electric]

20 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Where do farangs find such nutty Thai wives?  I know dozens of Thais and none of them have a view of time like the OP's wife.  Nutty.

 

But she's cute 55555

 

I'm not really winning with this topic am I ?

 

I've experienced this kooky date v early morning time thingy 3 times now, so it does exist, even if I'm the only one that believes it. 5555

 

I'm off now to give my nutty cute wife a cuddle.

[TKDfella]

16 hours ago, electric said:

 

But she's cute 55555

 

I'm not really winning with this topic am I ?

 

I've experienced this kooky date v early morning time thingy 3 times now, so it does exist, even if I'm the only one that believes it. 5555

 

I'm off now to give my nutty cute wife a cuddle.

Good for you...how many times would that be in one day...that is, in her terms?

[Kinnock]

On ‎5‎/‎28‎/‎2018 at 5:05 PM, electric said:

 

But she's cute 55555

 

I'm not really winning with this topic am I ?

 

I've experienced this kooky date v early morning time thingy 3 times now, so it does exist, even if I'm the only one that believes it. 5555

 

I'm off now to give my nutty cute wife a cuddle.

I asked the office team about the date for early morning - and was surprised to find that they agreed with your wife!

 

They know that, for example, when going for a flight in the early hours it is technically the next day - but in practice it's the same day as the evening before for them - and they said it's not the next date until the sun rises on the 'new day'.

 

There's is a logic there.  It's still the night of the day before until the sun rises.

[Odysseus123]

That is correct.

 

The Royal Navy and the original Christian fathers would agree with the OP's wife and yours and mine.

 

That means,of course,that the original Christian sabbath (Saturday) was on exactly the same day as the Jews but starting a little later.

 

At 6pm.

 

Why call the Thai people stupid when the average  poorly historically educated Westerner is a very,very,dumb,culturally illiterate creature, indeed.