Thai police unable to grill fugitive monk in Frankfurt

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Thai police unable to grill fugitive monk in Frankfurt

By The Nation

 

Deputy Prime Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan

 

German authorities have yet to allow Thai police to question Phra Phrommedhi, the high-ranking monk suspected of laundering money who fled to Frankfurt and is being detained there in custody, Deputy Prime Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan said on Tuesday.

 

Prawit could not say whether the police team led by national police chief Pol General Chakthip Chaijinda would be able to escort the fugitive monk back to Thailand on Wednesday as planned.

 

He said the team had purchased 14 seats on a Bangkok-bound Thai Airways flight, including one for the monk accused of embezzling state funds intended for temple development.

 

Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha meanwhile declared that he had received no formal report about Phra Phrommedhi’s apprehension in Germany.

 

Nor could Foreign Minister Don Pramudwinai confirm a news report saying the monk had applied for asylum in Germany, foiling Thai police efforts to interrogate him. The vetting process could take up to three months.

 

Don told reporters to ask Chakthip’s team about that matter but said the Thai Embassy in Berlin had not notified his ministry of any such action.

 

Police in Bangkok raided three temples on May 24 intending to arrest seven senior monks accused of embezzling state funds.

 

Phra Phrommedhi, former assistant abbot of Wat Samphanthawongsaram, and Phra Phromsitti, former abbot of Wat Sa Ket, eluded police that day, but the latter surrendered earlier this week and, on being denied bail, was defrocked and placed in custody.

 

Phra Phrommedhi, who fled first to Laos, was detained by German immigration on his arrival at Frankfurt Airport on Friday.

 

It was surmised that he would go to Germany in hope of securing help from the Wat Dhammakaya network.

 

Dhammakaya has more than 20 temples or “coordination centres” in Europe.

 

Seven of the centres are in Germany – in Berlin, Bavaria, Hamburg, Schwarzwald (the Black Forest in Baden-Wurttemberg), Heilbronn, Nordrhein Westfalen and Wat Phra Dhammakaya in Frankfurt.

 

Phra Phrommedhi performed religious rites at the Bavarian temple in 2011 and 2015, on the latter occasion also heading a committee conducting dharma examinations for monks.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30347014

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-06-05

[chippendale]

Julienne and fry him instead.

[colinneil]

Well if ole fatty is involved with the case it will be a total ==== up.

Now in Germany  Chatikit is telling the Germans.... Do you know who i am?

I am the big cheese, German reply so what, your are in our country and that means nothing.

[cornishcarlos]

Grilled Frankfurter !!!

 

Really, what do they expect ?? Pretty sure they wouldn't just let police from another country, waltz into Thailand and remove someone...

Clowns, idiots, muppets and liars.... 

[KhunBENQ]

Are they really that naive thinking they could pick him up with no formal procedure?

I expected this outcome.

Now they have a lot of seat for a comfortable flight back.

[Darcula]

They should've sent Big Joke. He can speak Germanium.

[KhunBENQ]

As I wrote in another thread, if he shouts "Asyl(um)" they can book flights in 2019 or 2020.

German justice system is at snails pace.

Not so different from Thailand.

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

Grilled Frankfurter !!!

 

Really, what do they expect ?? Pretty sure they wouldn't just let police from another country, waltz into Thailand and remove someone...

Clowns, idiots, muppets and liars.... 

 

Happens all the time when a country asks Thailand to apprehend a fugitive.  They can be on a plane in hours, if not a day or two. RTP arrests them, turn them over for extradition or deportation, done and dusted.

 

 

[scorecard]

3 minutes ago, Darcula said:

They should've sent Big Joke. He can speak Germanium.

 

And he's always very politeful.

[robblok]

5 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

As I wrote in another thread, if he shouts "Asyl(um)" they can book flights in 2019 or 2020.

German justice system is at snails pace.

Not so different from Thailand.

True.. but i think the outcome would be more fair then in Thailand. I would have more faith in the German justice system as the Thai one. 

[johng]

5 minutes ago, Darcula said:

He can speak Germanium.

how about Geranium ?

 

[nikmar]

14 seats???? How many does it take?

[BobBKK]

There is much more to this than meets the eye. I suspect there are huge political motives as in appointing a different Patriarch to the one chosen by the monks themselves. The deep state Amaart are deconstructing Thailand piece by piece at every corner and in every nook and cranny.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

32 minutes ago, webfact said:

It was surmised that he would go to Germany in hope of securing help from the Wat Dhammakaya network.

 

Dhammakaya has more than 20 temples or “coordination centres” in Europe.

 

Seven of the centres are in Germany – in Berlin, Bavaria, Hamburg, Schwarzwald (the Black Forest in Baden-Wurttemberg), Heilbronn, Nordrhein Westfalen and Wat Phra Dhammakaya in Frankfurt.

 

Dhammakaya strikes again!!!   Obviously, they do have some expertise in helping monks on the run from "the law."

[bluesofa]

29 minutes ago, Darcula said:

They should've sent Big Joke. He can speak Germanium.

I'd assume that's due to the type of fertiliser they were planted in.

 

[cornishcarlos]

29 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Happens all the time when a country asks Thailand to apprehend a fugitive.  They can be on a plane in hours, if not a day or two. RTP arrests them, turn them over for extradition or deportation, done and dusted.

 

 

 

The difference here, he was detained by German authorities on an immigration issue, not at the request of the RTP.

Therefore, the RTP can't just fly in and pick him up. So they wasted those 14 seats ?

Applications for extradition will have to be made before they can whisk him out of there...

[ezzra]

23 minutes ago, nikmar said:

14 seats???? How many does it take?

2 to grab him and the rest to some beer and sauerkraut fest no doubts...

[CGW]

26 minutes ago, nikmar said:

14 seats???? How many does it take?

I'm going to take a wild guess, = 14? how many should it realistically take, probably two, but they would have too big a shopping list!

Edited June 5, 2018 by CGW

[impulse]

8 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

The difference here, he was detained by German authorities on an immigration issue, not at the request of the RTP.

Therefore, the RTP can't just fly in and pick him up. So they wasted those 14 seats 

Applications for extradition will have to be made before they can whisk him out of there...

 

Formal extradition isn't the only way to deal with it.  It's not uncommon for a country with no extradition treaty to convince the other country to declare someone "undesirable" for any number of reasons, and put them on a plane back to their country of origin.   Of course, you don't need 14 seats to accomplish it, since they just give the passport to the flight crew if it's a plain vanilla deportation.

 

 

 

Edited June 5, 2018 by impulse

[cornishcarlos]

2 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Formal extradition isn't the only way to deal with it.  It's not uncommon for a country with no extradition treaty to convince the other country to declare someone "undesirable" for any number of reasons, and put them on a plane back to their country of origin.   Of course, you don't need 14 seats to accomplish it, since they just give the passport to the flight crew if it's a plain vanilla deportation.

 

 

 

 

Sure but at the end of the day, RTP can't just rock up and take the guy back with them...

Which is how it reads ?

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

Sure but at the end of the day, RTP can't just rock up and take the guy back with them...

Which is how it reads 

 

They probably smelled a shopping opportunity without the luxury taxes, and got overly excited.

 

[KhunBENQ]

Don't whinge about the 14 seats.

Peanuts compared to the Hawaii excursion on a chartered 747.

[bluesofa]

2 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said:

 

Sure but at the end of the day, RTP can't just rock up and take the guy back with them...

Which is how it reads ?

Also, does airline have a responsibility to return the passenger only to the country of origin of the flight? If for example if he flew to Germany on a flight from Russia, normally I think he would be return to Russia?

I don't know how strict that is, probably the airline would be happy to hand him over to that very small group of holidaymakers sent to collect him.

 

[thaichiro]

34 minutes ago, ezzra said:

2 to grab him and the rest to some beer and sauerkraut fest no doubts...

Any opportunity to waste tax dollars on another junket. Not only will they not return with this thief and charlitan, but the tickets are no doubt non- refundable! More top shelf Thai government action on display. Better to hire the CIA to kidnap him and send him back for dome re-educating at one of their spa facilities. 

[sammieuk1]

Forget the grilling fire up the BBQ the monk is toast now general Rolex is on the case.

[Juan B Tong]

I hope this doesn't have a negative effect on Thailand's

image.

Edited June 5, 2018 by Juan B Tong

[peperobi]

 

The government and the police must know that the extradition a long procedure is. Finally, he will remain in old Germany.

[klauskunkel]

Thai police unable to grill... a Bratwurst

[Darcula]

2 hours ago, bluesofa said:

I'd assume that's due to the type of fertiliser they were planted in.

 

 

No not Geraniums. I was refering to Germanium - it's the most widely spoken language in Germany after Thanksgiving, which all the immigrants from Turkey speak.

[thaiguzzi]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Nor could Foreign Minister Don Pramudwinai confirm a news report saying the monk had applied for asylum in Germany, foiling Thai police efforts to interrogate him.

 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

German authorities have yet to allow Thai police to question Phra Phrommedhi, the high-ranking monk suspected of laundering money who fled to Frankfurt and is being detained there in custody

 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

He said the team had purchased 14 seats on a Bangkok-bound Thai Airways flight, including one for the monk

 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Prawit could not say whether the police team led by national police chief Pol General Chakthip Chaijinda would be able to escort the fugitive monk back to Thailand on Wednesday as planned.

Cannot.

Organize.

Pi$$ up.

Brewery.