4 hours ago, PhonThong said:

Ignorance and skin-color bias is not an intellectual pursuit. I challenge those who are saying President Trump is a racist and that he’s not doing what is best for America to give us facts that support those accusations. Opinions are not facts.

 

Regarding the poppycock site you posted from, and the claim it/you are putting forward, here's a New York Times opinion section account of Trump's racist history. PS - It's a LONG list.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/15/opinion/leonhardt-trump-racist.html

 

 

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Donald Trump has been obsessed with race for the entire time he has been a public figure. He had a history of making racist comments as a New York real-estate developer in the 1970s and ‘80s. More recently, his political rise was built on promulgating the lie that the nation’s first black president was born in Kenya. He then launched his campaign with a speech describing Mexicans as rapists.
 

The media often falls back on euphemisms when describing Trump’s comments about race: racially loaded, racially charged, racially tinged, racially sensitive. And Trump himself has claimed that he is “the least racist person.” But here’s the truth: Donald Trump is a racist. He talks about and treats people differently based on their race. He has done so for years, and he is still doing so.

 

 

5 hours ago, PhonThong said:

Of course I don't and you know I don't. You just feel the need to mock him so that you feel included. I pity someone like you.

 

4 hours ago, PhonThong said:

 I'm not confusing anything. Even the African American community is coming to terms with the truth.

Donald Trump’s accomplishments make Barack Obama look even worse.

June 12, 2018, by Staff   
Filed under Business, Money, News, Opinion, Politics, Weekly Columns

THYBLACKMAN.COM

 

It is clear to all who are honest that Obama accomplished next to nothing for the good of America as a whole, and the facts support my assertion. President Trump has put America back to work – and if that were his only accomplishment, it would worthy of praise. Because of the continued stock market performance, people are blessed to have a few years of market growth that will help replenish their retirement portfolios.

Being a color isn’t a skill set, and having a wife who could do jumping jacks didn’t impress China or North Korea. Obama cannot be lauded as great simply because of his melanin content and ghettoish behavior that blacks found acceptable. He must be examined under the microscope of what was/is best for the American people. When examinations are performed using that method of testing we must go back to Ronald Reagan to find another resident who has done as much for the American people.

Ignorance and skin-color bias is not an intellectual pursuit. I challenge those who are saying President Trump is a racist and that he’s not doing what is best for America to give us facts that support those accusations. Opinions are not facts.

Barack Obama didn’t build anything or run anything before taking office. He was a community organizer, which is tantamount to being a “mobster.” Community organizers promise they won’t destroy your property or stir up disturbances in exchange for a company or property owner succumbing to their extortion threats.

You accuse me of mocking Trump like everyone else, then you mock Obama in a rant that ignores the sorry state of the US economy when he took office and the strong state of the economy when he left.  You seem quite detached from reality.  Not surprising from someone who gets his opinions from Fox News pundits and fringe websites.

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

yeap, and it was Obama¨s fault everything that Usa went bankrupt, and Trump the savior got it running again in two months? 

 

I have to say, I admire you, really, ''''''''''''

I know you do.......

On 6/10/2018 at 9:28 AM, MrMuddle said:

Anyone who ever trusted the US was shafted, from when the country was founded to the present day, there are many examples of this, from the Native Americans, to the South Vietnamese and the Hmong, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
 

 

It's complicated.

 

16 minutes ago, heybruce said:

 

You accuse me of mocking Trump like everyone else, then you mock Obama in a rant that ignores the sorry state of the US economy when he took office and the strong state of the economy when he left.  You seem quite detached from reality.  Not surprising from someone who gets his opinions from Fox News pundits and fringe websites.

Didn't get anything from Fox news. You act as if you know me. But you are not in my class,so we know that will never happen.

31 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

Didn't get anything from Fox news. You act as if you know me. But you are not in my class,so we know that will never happen.

And you act as if you know me.  You are correct about me not being in your class: I'm a retired USAF officer who knows more about military affairs than Trump ever did and ever wants to learn.  I was sounding the alarm about him ever since it appeared a significant number of people were foolish enough to think he was qualified to be president. 

16 minutes ago, heybruce said:

And you act as if you know me.  You are correct about me not being in your class: I'm a retired USAF officer who knows more about military affairs than Trump ever did and ever wants to learn.  I was sounding the alarm about him ever since it appeared a significant number of people were foolish enough to think he was qualified to be president. 

Being a retired USAF officer actually qualifies you for nothing.  A dime a dozen. For all I know you retired company grade. Trump doesn't need to know anything about military affairs. That's what the joint chiefs and cabinet members are for.

8 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

Being a retired USAF officer actually qualifies you for nothing.  A dime a dozen. For all I know you retired company grade. Trump doesn't need to know anything about military affairs. That's what the joint chiefs and cabinet members are for.

 

But Donald claimed he knew better than "the generals".  On more than one occasion. Don't recall Trump supporters having much issues with that. Or with him disregarding intelligence agencies and the military views'.

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

But Donald claimed he knew better than "the generals".  On more than one occasion. Don't recall Trump supporters having much issues with that. Or with him disregarding intelligence agencies and the military views'.

Can you give a reference for that? 

9 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

Can you give a reference for that? 

15) The military

"There's nobody bigger or better at the military than I am." — June 2015 Fox News interview

16) ISIS

"I know more about ISIS [the Islamic State militant group] than the generals do. Believe me." — November 2015

17) Defense — and offense

"So a general gets on, sent obviously by Obama, and he said, 'Mr. Trump doesn't understand. He knows nothing about defense.' I know more about offense and defense than they will ever understand, believe me. Believe me. Than they will ever understand. Than they will ever understand." — July 2016

23 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

Can you give a reference for that? 

This is a special link for you, 

 

“I know more about renewables than any human being on Earth.”
“I understand the power of Facebook maybe better than almost anybody, based on my results, right?”
“Nobody knows more about debt. I’m like the king. I love debt.”
“I think nobody knows more about taxes than I do, maybe in the history of the world.”
“Nobody knows more about taxes than I do — and income than I do.”
“Nobody knows banking better than I do”
“I understand money better than anybody.”
“I think nobody knows the system better than I do.”
“I know more about contributions than anybody.”
“Nobody knows politicians better than Donald Trump.”
“I know more about Cory (Booker) than he knows about himself.
“Nobody knows more about trade than me.”
“Nobody knows jobs like I do!”
“Nobody in the history of this country has ever known so much about infrastructure as Donald Trump.”
“There’s nobody bigger or better at the military than I am.”
“I know more about offense and defense than they (the generals) will ever understand, believe me.”
“There is nobody who understands the horror of nuclear more than me.”
“I know the H1B. I know the H2B. Nobody knows it better than me.”

12 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

15) The military

"There's nobody bigger or better at the military than I am." — June 2015 Fox News interview

16) ISIS

"I know more about ISIS [the Islamic State militant group] than the generals do. Believe me." — November 2015

17) Defense — and offense

"So a general gets on, sent obviously by Obama, and he said, 'Mr. Trump doesn't understand. He knows nothing about defense.' I know more about offense and defense than they will ever understand, believe me. Believe me. Than they will ever understand. Than they will ever understand." — July 2016

So, then Obama fires all the generals that don't agree with him. So the JV ISIS grows into a major threat.

2 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

So, then Obama fires all the generals that don't agree with him. So the JV ISIS grows into a major threat.

 

But but but Obama....

6 minutes ago, Opl said:

This is a special link for you, 

 

“I know more about renewables than any human being on Earth.”
“I understand the power of Facebook maybe better than almost anybody, based on my results, right?”
“Nobody knows more about debt. I’m like the king. I love debt.”
“I think nobody knows more about taxes than I do, maybe in the history of the world.”
“Nobody knows more about taxes than I do — and income than I do.”
“Nobody knows banking better than I do”
“I understand money better than anybody.”
“I think nobody knows the system better than I do.”
“I know more about contributions than anybody.”
“Nobody knows politicians better than Donald Trump.”
“I know more about Cory (Booker) than he knows about himself.
“Nobody knows more about trade than me.”
“Nobody knows jobs like I do!”
“Nobody in the history of this country has ever known so much about infrastructure as Donald Trump.”
“There’s nobody bigger or better at the military than I am.”
“I know more about offense and defense than they (the generals) will ever understand, believe me.”
“There is nobody who understands the horror of nuclear more than me.”
“I know the H1B. I know the H2B. Nobody knows it better than me.”

So where is the link?

6 minutes ago, Opl said:

This is a special link for you, 

 

to praise oneself stinks. sad that so many americans have chosen this stinker.

36 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

Being a retired USAF officer actually qualifies you for nothing.  A dime a dozen. For all I know you retired company grade. Trump doesn't need to know anything about military affairs. That's what the joint chiefs and cabinet members are for.

Really?  A military career, two engineering degrees and one in math, aerospace RDT%E experience including nuclear weapon delivery systems, Professional Military Education, etc. doesn't qualify me to point out Trump's gross military ignorance, especially on the subject of nuclear weapons?  What qualifies you to challenge my qualifications?

 

Trump needs to know enough about military affairs to understand that he doesn't make major military policy announcements without first consulting his generals, as he did when he announced the end of US-South Korea joint military drills.

 

1 minute ago, tomacht8 said:

to praise oneself stinks. sad that so many americans have chosen this stinker.

He's a non-stop horror show of buffoonery. Yes, it does indicate a decline in the USA that he managed to win at all, even with a minority of actual votes. I doubt the decline is over even after he exits. 

6 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

So, then Obama fires all the generals that don't agree with him. So the JV ISIS grows into a major threat.

All the generals that don't agree with him?  So where's the link?

 

ISIS is a consequence of all the incompetent blundering in the Middle East done by the Bush administration, but that is off-topic.

5 hours ago, simple1 said:

The topic is not about Obama. However, I do wish the Mods permit a response to your misleading comments.

 

First of all Obama has never been identified by a security agency with being linked to mafia groups, as has Trump.

 

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/investigations/trumps-bid-for-sydney-casino-killed-off-by-mob-connections/news-story/65a0e5289cc924722f988bdca4b01e9b

 

In comparison Obama achieved legal academic excellence being the first black American to be appointed President of Harvard Law Review and went on to being a professor teaching Constitutional Law.

 

Your first link connects to a weirdo black Christian opinion blog, hardly facts to support your argument. Your second paragraph totally ignores Obama's successes on the domestic front during his time as President. Obama lead the US out of the global financial crisis to re-establishing the US as an economic powerhouse with the outcome of turning around massive job losses to creating more than eleven million new jobs. 

 

IMO it is disgusting Trump has and is reversing many of the protections Obama put in-place for the environment and to protect the people from corporation abuse and corruption.

 

Because you are not American I wouldn't expect you to understand this, but Obama did not "put in-place for the environment and to protect the people from corporation abuse and corruption.", he merely wrote a bunch of Executive Orders which are meaningless beyond his tenure. He failed to govern. He failed to find common ground with Congress and create LAW that protects the environment and people from corporate abuse and corruption. That's his job description, not bemoaning why he couldn't get anything done.

59 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

15) The military

"There's nobody bigger or better at the military than I am." — June 2015 Fox News interview

16) ISIS

"I know more about ISIS [the Islamic State militant group] than the generals do. Believe me." — November 2015

17) Defense — and offense

"So a general gets on, sent obviously by Obama, and he said, 'Mr. Trump doesn't understand. He knows nothing about defense.' I know more about offense and defense than they will ever understand, believe me. Believe me. Than they will ever understand. Than they will ever understand." — July 2016

 

Is there a "cringe" emoticon? Cuz there's nothing to like or laugh about there.

42 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Really?  A military career, two engineering degrees and one in math, aerospace RDT%E experience including nuclear weapon delivery systems, Professional Military Education, etc. doesn't qualify me to point out Trump's gross military ignorance, especially on the subject of nuclear weapons?  What qualifies you to challenge my qualifications?

 

Trump needs to know enough about military affairs to understand that he doesn't make major military policy announcements without first consulting his generals, as he did when he announced the end of US-South Korea joint military drills.

 

 

His highest ranking generals say that he consulted and was counseled by them. What is your evidence that he did not and was not? That's not to say he followed their counsel; we don't know.  Given your credentials I'm willing to put greater weight on what you say in this particular topic. 

13 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

Because you are not American I wouldn't expect you to understand this, but Obama did not "put in-place for the environment and to protect the people from corporation abuse and corruption.", he merely wrote a bunch of Executive Orders which are meaningless beyond his tenure. He failed to govern. He failed to find common ground with Congress and create LAW that protects the environment and people from corporate abuse and corruption. That's his job description, not bemoaning why he couldn't get anything done.

In fact you're wrong about what Obama achieved,  In his first 2 years. Dodd-Frank which Republicans are now eagerly trying to undo. And with the congress he created the  Consumer Protection Bureau..

3 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

In fact you're wrong about what Obama achieved,  In his first 2 years. Dodd-Frank which Republicans are now eagerly trying to undo. And with the congress he created the  Consumer Protection Bureau..

 

But no repeal of Gramm, Leach , Biley, which would have made the need for Dodd Frank moot. Valentine to healthcare and pharma industry. No grand initiatives at all.

2 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

But no repeal of Gramm, Leach , Biley, which would have made the need for Dodd Frank moot. Valentine to healthcare and pharma industry. No grand initiatives at all.

Because Graham Leach wasn't formally repealed you think its excesses weren't addressed by Dodd Frank? This criticism is just weird.

As for the "Valentine" to the health care industry. Had the Republicans cooperated with improving Obamacare instead of repeatedly trying to destroy it....And even know, the Trump administration is going after the mandate for people with pre-existing conditions. And the Medicaid portion of the Obamacare has steadily grown in popularity and is most likely going to be adopted by more Republican states in the next election. Maybe to you that's small potatoes.

Obama got a huge amount done in 2 years. But once the House went Republican, any chance of further reform was dead.

1 hour ago, lannarebirth said:

 

His highest ranking generals say that he consulted and was counseled by them. What is your evidence that he did not and was not? That's not to say he followed their counsel; we don't know.  Given your credentials I'm willing to put greater weight on what you say in this particular topic. 

I'm surprised you don't know about his, it has been reported in numerous credible sources. 

 

"President Donald Trump said on Tuesday after meeting with Kim Jong Un that the US and South Korea would stop military drills — but it appears China knew about it before the Pentagon did.

US military forces in Korea have not received any direction to cease joint military drills, a spokesman said on Tuesday, Reuters notes."   http://www.businessinsider.com/china-knew-about-trump-stopping-korea-military-drills-before-us-military-2018-6

 

It is being discussed here:   https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1042803-in-surprise-summit-concession-trump-says-he-will-halt-korea-war-games/

12 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Because Graham Leach wasn't formally repealed you think its excesses weren't addressed by Dodd Frank? This criticism is just weird.

Yes, that is exactly what I think. That's why you make new laws so you don't address the problem you created that repealing a bad law would have done.

 

12 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

As for the "Valentine" to the health care industry. Had the Republicans cooperated with improving Obamacare instead of repeatedly trying to destroy it....And even know, the Trump administration is going after the mandate for people with pre-existing conditions. And the Medicaid portion of the Obamacare has steadily grown in popularity and is most likely going to be adopted by more Republican states in the next election. Maybe to you that's small potatoes.

Obama got a huge amount done in 2 years. But once the House went Republican, any chance of further reform was dead.

 

If single payer had been pursued and enacted (which it easily could have been) it would still be in place and bullet proof.  Why do you think institutions like Medicare and Social Security have lasted for generations?

Numerous posts and replies removed.   Please stay on the topic.   If need be, please re-read the OP.   It's on the first page.  

On 6/10/2018 at 8:57 AM, connda said:

Love him or hate him, it's refreshing to see a world leader not being politically correct.  Nice to see the Atlantists getting a swift kick in the butt and the status quo getting a good shaking. 

He isn't a world leader by a long shot, he is just....let's say....trump.

On 6/11/2018 at 6:50 AM, Basil B said:

Thanks... Never laughed so much at a very appropriate picture. 

I was wondering how close he was to getting that glass of water on the desk thrown in his face??? 

The original photo is going one of those iconic news pictures for decades to come.

I wonder what Angela told the man-child.

So far, at least, Donald Trump has smashed more than he built. With regard to environmental policy, the Middle East, and above all with regard to former allies in Canada and Europe. The now - but it is again remembered - by a prominent commentator of Fox News simply be referred to as "opponents".

 

Already upsetting the hatred that opens up between nations in online forums which have had a good, friendly relationship since the second world war.

 

And now, on the world stage, we have an egoistic, but unfortunately very powerful self-promoter who instigates discontent and hatred between the friendly countries and incites people against each other.

 

In ancient times, such troublemakers were simply publicly staked.