Girl, 5, dies in locked car left in sun for hours at her school in Khon Kaen

[bdenner]

6 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I've never left a 5 year old child in a car for a whole day.

 

You are talking specifics that's BS and not the way I wrote the post!

There are any number of ways I would have turned the clock back if possible!

 

I'm sure this person is in the same boat.

[oldlakey]

4 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

It is a matter of opinion, of course, but I think you are letting the outcome cloud your judgement of the action. It is a tragic accident, but an accident none the less.

Accident does not fit I am afraid

I would describe the reason for this childs death is a direct result of the teachers negligence

[Aforek]

These last years, it has happened too in my country ( France ), at least two times 

both times the person who forgot the child was father ( or mother , don't remember ), so , it's not only in Thailand 

[impulse]

44 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

Did your parents as in this case forget you were in there 

 

Yes.  There were 9 kids in the back.  8 of them piled out and nobody noticed I was still asleep.  8 running, jumping, screaming kids look a lot like 9.

 

[BangkokReady]

7 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

Accident does not fit I am afraid

I would describe the reason for this childs death is a direct result of the teachers negligence

If you forget, you forget. It's more like freak accident/human error.

 

If the kid had been awake, if the teacher hadn't forgotten, if the kid had woken up later and made a noise to get someone to let her out. Quite a few variables.

 

It could happen to anyone, so the only real answer is to not let teachers give random lifts to children that are not their own.

Edited June 19, 2018 by BangkokReady

[oldlakey]

5 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Yes.  There were 9 kids in the back.  8 of them piled out and nobody noticed I was still asleep.  8 running, jumping, screaming kids look a lot like 9.

 

So which parent got the pat on the back or was it a joint effort

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

So which parent got the pat on the back or was it a joint effort

 

You're asking me?  I was asleep. 

 

Besides, I don't recall what happened when I was 2 years old.  I got the story 3rd hand and many years later.  Part of every family's lore.

 

[oldlakey]

6 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

If you forget, you forget. It's more like freak accident/human error.

 

If the kid had been awake, if the teacher hadn't forgotten, if the kid had woken up later and made a noise to get someone to let her out. Quite a few variables.

 

It could happen to anyone, so the only real answer is to not let teachers give random lifts to children that are not their own.

The teacher is guilty of criminal negligence leading to a death, and I think some meaningful action should be taken against her

Human frailties should not be used as a defence

This is my opinion

[connda]

No surprise.  Most Thais I know don't have a lot of peripheral awareness, i.e., their brains must be going 100 miles per hour and they simply don't know what is going on around them.

Edited June 19, 2018 by connda

[oldlakey]

5 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

You're asking me?  I was asleep. 

 

Besides, I don't recall what happened when I was 2 years old.  I got the story 3rd hand and many years later.  Part of every family's lore.

 

Who else would I ask as it was your story

Nudge nudge wink wink know what I mean

[jesimps]

6 hours ago, tracker1 said:

Are these people brain dead ?

I'll repeat what I've said many times, Thais are born minus common sense. Nothing will ever change my opinion.

[connda]

1 hour ago, bdenner said:

Have some pity on the teacher ALL you self righteous pricks! Haven't any one of you done anything out of the ordinary and forgotten about it?? Trying to do a favour turned to <deleted> = very sad for all concerned!

I've forgotten a lot of things in my life, but I've never even have come close to putting a child's life in danger by doing something as self-absorbed as forgetting a child in a locked car on a hot sunny day - or for that matter, any other living creature.  There are just some things you simply do not forget unless you have Alzheimer as your excuse.

[impulse]

Just now, oldlakey said:

Who else would I ask as it was your story

Nudge nudge wink wink know what I mean

 

And you know what I mean...  I was just hoping to derail the Thai Bash-a-Thon for a few posts with a story from my childhood that didn't end tragically. 

 

Anyone that wants can google the many times kids around the world have died when their parents forgot them in the car, or left them for just a minute and that minute turned into hours.

[Bluespunk]

50 minutes ago, bdenner said:

You are talking specifics that's BS and not the way I wrote the post!

There are any number of ways I would have turned the clock back if possible!

 

I'm sure this person is in the same boat.

Not even close.

 

I've made mistakes, but I have never forgotten about a child in my care.

 

I am a teacher of this age range and am constantly aware of where all children in my care are.

 

It's a fundamental part of what we are trained for.

Edited June 19, 2018 by Bluespunk

[impulse]

2 minutes ago, jesimps said:

I'll repeat what I've said many times, Thais are born minus common sense. Nothing will ever change my opinion.

 

And yet, so many of them have moved their entire families into mansions built for them by geniuses from overseas.  How do you reconcile that little tidbit?

[poanoi]

i think you sods should go hunt for 'likes' elsewhere,

leave this tragedy thread be

[oldlakey]

4 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

And you know what I mean...  I was just hoping to derail the Thai Bash-a-Thon for a few posts with a story from my childhood that didn't end tragically. 

 

Anyone that wants can google the many times kids around the world have died when their parents forgot them in the car, or left them for just a minute and that minute turned into hours.

The thread is about this one particular event as far as I am concerned

What has happened in other parts of the world is just as sad no argument

As for Thaivisa and what is posted here well that is what it is

This particular Thai deserves the bashing

[brling]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

Same kind of tragedies happen all over the world.  It's not a Thai specific phenomena. 

 

Well it did not take long, did it. btw, did you forget the usual line ie "if you dont like it here then --- --- -- ---- ----."

[Classic Ray]

Dont they call a register and follow up on any absentees? With everyone having a mobile phone it is so easy to check why a child is not in class.

 

If they don’t do this, what is to stop kids being kidnapped and no one knowing about it.

 

It reinforces my belief that education is a for-profit enterprise in Thailand and nothing to do with raising children to be good, knowledgeable adults.

[Rc2702]

There are only victims in this tragedy.

 

Nothing to laugh at, just a horrible situation for all concerned.

 

RIP to the child.

[CanuckThai]

Another sad tale.  Won't be the last tragedy (won't be the last tragic event today) unfortunately.    ...RIP

[Cheops]

2 hours ago, BangkokReady said:

As much as the result was a tragedy, and it's of little consolation to the family, this would be ridiculously easy to do.

 

She's heading to work, sees the kid missed the bus or whatever and tells her to get in. The kid immediately falls asleep on the back seat and slides down out of view. The teacher has stuff on her mind and, by the time she gets to the school, she's forgotten that the kid was ever in her car. It's not like she always has the kid there like a parent with a child of her own.

 

The teacher didn't choose for the kid to fall asleep, she didn't decide to make Thailand a tropical country, and she didn't choose for no one to discover the kid all day or for the kid not to be able to raise the alarm (if she even woke up). She did one thing, forgot the kid was in her car.

 

It could happen to anyone.

NO it could NOT happen to anyone. Only to braindead people! Especially if I would pick up another kid I would even monitor them more. If this would happen to one of my kids I will make sure that that person would not be allowed within 100m of any child for the rest of his/her miserable life!

[trainman34014]

7 hours ago, tracker1 said:

Are these people brain dead ?

Yes; and also morally bankrupt !

 

RIP The Young Child, another life mindlessly wasted.

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, Aforek said:

it's not only in Thailand 

 

No-one has written that it is. but this is a Thai-centric forum.

[Bangkok Barry]

1 hour ago, jesimps said:

I'll repeat what I've said many times, Thais are born minus common sense. Nothing will ever change my opinion.

 

I've lived here for 25 years and never once seen any evidence of common sense. It really is remarkable how a race can survive without it. Well, some don't, like this child.

[RocketDog]

5 hours ago, Lupatria said:

In this country, brain death often remains undetected for years.

Ah, but how nice the world would be if brain dead zombies were only active members of society in Thailand. Sad to say I've encountered them in many countries.

Hopefully you dissipated some of your pent-up bile with that brain dead post.

[impulse]

1 hour ago, oldlakey said:

The thread is about this one particular event as far as I am concerned

What has happened in other parts of the world is just as sad no argument

As for Thaivisa and what is posted here well that is what it is

This particular Thai deserves the bashing

 

I wouldn't disagree with you there.  But count the posts exclaiming that no Thai they've met in XX years has ever shown a bit of common sense.  Meanwhile, I worked with dozens of amazing Thai people in Bangkok.

 

[mehrdad]

Or maybe this stupid teacher was checking Facebook page and sharing food or other!! 

[oldlakey]

8 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

I wouldn't disagree with you there.  But count the posts exclaiming that no Thai they've met in XX years has ever shown a bit of common sense.  Meanwhile, I worked with dozens of amazing Thai people in Bangkok.

 

Well what can I say about that apart from well it just can't be correct now can it

That applies to the first part of your post but then you would already know that by your working experience

[Aforek]

Thai bashers have a good opportunity to have fun   Poor and stupid farangs 

it happens in any country, even yours ; maybe you are the next to forget