webfact Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Ekkapol Chanthawong – Parents are refusing to blame him By The Thaiger PHOTO: From video of Thai Navy Seals Facebook page Eight out, five to go. But Ekkapol Chanthawong, the assistant football coach of the Mu Pa team, trapped in Tham Luang cave since June 23, is being credited with keeping his young team alive during their ordeal. He’s 25, the rest of the young team are between 11 and 16 years of age. Thai media, ever searching for the dramatic, has been in a lather over whether he deserves praise or is the devil in the story. Some media want to blame him for the team’s predicament as he led the 12 football players on an excursion into the caves after scheduled training on Saturday, June 23. They’d been there before. A torrential downpour, and subsequent flood waters flowing into the caves, forced them deeper into the bowels of the Chiang Rai mountains. Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/chiang-rai/ekkapol-chanthawong-parents-are-refusing-to-blame-him -- © Copyright The Thaiger 2018-07-10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djjamie Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 Unless there was a sign at the cave entrance saying "Do not enter due to monson seasan" then he is a hero that deserves acollades, medals, rewards, praise and eveeything else a hero gets. Of course if he can look into the future and he still went into the cave with the kids he should go to jail. So the question is can he see into the future? 12 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lungstib Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 We can all make mistakes. On most occasions he could have done this and nothing bad would have happened. But his behavior since has shown he is a responsible, caring person who gives his best for his boys. Many people out driving today will ignore speed limits, red lights and no overtaking signs. They are all just as 'guilty', maybe more so, than he is. He didn't break a law, or actually even disobey the sign which stated July. I wouldn't undertake to judge the man. 17 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chang_paarp Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 It is not often I agree with djjamie, this young man (25) has kept a collection of kids together during a very testing ordeal. It is due to Ekkapol they were in relatively good health both physically and mentally after being stuck in a cave for the better part of two weeks before being found. Laying blame as to how the group got stuck is a separate thing to the act of looking after the group of kids once they were unable to leave the caves. He should be lauded as a hero. 13 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pegman Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 He's my hero. I don't think I'm alone either. 17 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sweatalot Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 The sign said closed from July on They entered in June Was it really obvious that the cave would be flooded so sudden? I doubt. I wouldn't blame him. He is a victim himself and he did great in helping the boys. In my eyes he is a hero not a cuprit 22 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mike324 Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 I wouldn't blame him, everyone says he is a caring guy. If he had known it would flood in June, I'm sure he would not have taken the kids inside. Accidents do happen. The guy is an orphan, and folks around him said he looks after the kids with all his heart. Its a miracle that the kids are alive, people should move on. I can't imagine myself fleeing flood waters and climbing through a hole less than 45cm in diameter leading to who knows where! The kids seems to be in good spirit, which means the coach took good care of them. 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post greenchair Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 He did a great job. I hope he will continue his wonderful work with the children. And handsome too. If I wasn't married I would pay him a visit. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorayme Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Did I read the he went in after the kids had already gone in the cave. The whole story will be out soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ron19 Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 Troll, off topic posts and answers to them have been removed. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Opl Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 6 hours ago, pegman said: He's my hero. I don't think I'm alone either. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peperobi Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 6 hours ago, sweatalot said: The sign said closed from July on They entered in June Was it really obvious that the cave would be flooded so sudden? I doubt. I wouldn't blame him. He is a victim himself and he did great in helping the boys. In my eyes he is a hero not a cuprit I wrote about the sign as well last time, is looking to me that those media peoples can't read! I'm sure that the eleven took the decision to go inside the cave together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bung Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 It's telling how many foreigners comments here are all about seeking vengeance whereas Thais as usual are compassionate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Let's use the word, responsibility. No avoiding that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Let's wait until the story why the kids went into the cave and why they were so deep in it gets clear. They are locals as far as I've understood and must've known the cave and that it floods during rain, if they did it on a dare .. well, dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chama Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 8 hours ago, Chang_paarp said: It is not often I agree with djjamie, this young man (25) has kept a collection of kids together during a very testing ordeal. It is due to Ekkapol they were in relatively good health both physically and mentally after being stuck in a cave for the better part of two weeks before being found. Laying blame as to how the group got stuck is a separate thing to the act of looking after the group of kids once they were unable to leave the caves. He should be lauded as a hero. The plan was to build more team spirit and physical endurance. There is no way he planned to get stuck in that cave but once there he did everything to protect the boys. He refused to eat any of the food they had brought into the cave himself leaving it for the boys causing him to be one of the two deemed to be "yellow" for extraction. This young man kept 12 active kids together, kept their spirits up through ten dos of total darkness and uncertainty. He taught the boys to drink the water dripping into the cave rather than the contaminated water in the pools surrounding them. He kept their spirits up with stories and admonished them to remain somewhat still (hard for kids this age) to conserve calories. Basically he did everything right after becoming trapped and is probably the only reason those boys are alive and fairly healthy. Arrest him? No, go arrest the people running the dive boat operation instead. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 8 hours ago, djjamie said: Unless there was a sign at the cave entrance saying "Do not enter due to monson seasan" then he is a hero that deserves acollades, medals, rewards, praise and eveeything else a hero gets. Of course if he can look into the future and he still went into the cave with the kids he should go to jail. So the question is can he see into the future? On the sauce tonight Jamie. Its hard to be judge and jury when the facts are not known. Very simplistic observation to a critical situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nyezhov Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 Probably 95% of the posters here including mecould not have done what this young man did. I keepthat in mind when I read some folks complaints. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pomchop Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 The coach appears to me to be a young man that has dedicated a lot of his time and energy to become a mentor, role model, and perhaps father figure to a group of young kids likely in need of all three. Having grown up as an orphan himself he knows full well all the bad turns in the road that these boys could easily take. Perhaps some of the keyboard warriors who are so very quick to condemn him might want to get off their butts and go out and at least attempt to help some poor kids who probably don't have such a great home life....but of course much easier to sit in a comfy chair sipping a beverage throwing jabs than to actually try and do some good. Pitiful. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brunolem Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 Here is a good article about the coach... https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/thai-cave-rescue-how-a-25-year-old-former-monk-kept-the-teenage-soccer-team-alive 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, Brunolem said: Here is a good article about the coach... https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/thai-cave-rescue-how-a-25-year-old-former-monk-kept-the-teenage-soccer-team-alive Great read Bruno. I want to adopt the junior coach. There is a lot of jockeying for a position at a table that present bountiful profit and prestige. I lived in Chiang Rai for 12 months and have been back. It is such a gracious experience to be received by very warm, humble people. They more than likely just want their children back home. They understand how hard it is to live in the area. I feel sorry for some TV members that can't understand what is going on in the world about this tragedy. What news I am reading and seeing on the TV does involve some politics, does ask why the Governor is being replaced in view of his role and how people overseas would like to see the survivor's as a way of closure. They have all prayed and hoped for this miracle of the 13 being rescued. After 8 days I gave up and was asking the question of the coach leading them into the cave system. His actions may have saved these kids. Its strange watching a lynch mob. But again Bruno great article and I thankyou for posting it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post overherebc Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 At the end of the day as Greavsie or the Saint? used to say The boy done good. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevecm Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, chama said: The plan was to build more team spirit and physical endurance. There is no way he planned to get stuck in that cave but once there he did everything to protect the boys. He refused to eat any of the food they had brought into the cave himself leaving it for the boys causing him to be one of the two deemed to be "yellow" for extraction. This young man kept 12 active kids together, kept their spirits up through ten dos of total darkness and uncertainty. He taught the boys to drink the water dripping into the cave rather than the contaminated water in the pools surrounding them. He kept their spirits up with stories and admonished them to remain somewhat still (hard for kids this age) to conserve calories. Basically he did everything right after becoming trapped and is probably the only reason those boys are alive and fairly healthy. Arrest him? No, go arrest the people running the dive boat operation instead. 100% On-point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Get Real Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 (edited) No need to wait for any story. The children doesn´t blame him. The parents doesen´t blame him. Then nobody else should blame him, due to that they are the ones that have been living with the worst of conseqences. After that he is the one that kept them calm, together and collected. He is a hero, and nobody has the right to stand above both parents and children by saying that he ain´t. End of that discussion. Edited July 10, 2018 by Get Real 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brunolem Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 55 minutes ago, Chris Lawrence said: Great read Bruno. I want to adopt the junior coach. There is a lot of jockeying for a position at a table that present bountiful profit and prestige. I lived in Chiang Rai for 12 months and have been back. It is such a gracious experience to be received by very warm, humble people. They more than likely just want their children back home. They understand how hard it is to live in the area. I feel sorry for some TV members that can't understand what is going on in the world about this tragedy. What news I am reading and seeing on the TV does involve some politics, does ask why the Governor is being replaced in view of his role and how people overseas would like to see the survivor's as a way of closure. They have all prayed and hoped for this miracle of the 13 being rescued. After 8 days I gave up and was asking the question of the coach leading them into the cave system. His actions may have saved these kids. Its strange watching a lynch mob. But again Bruno great article and I thankyou for posting it. Thanks. I live in Sisaket, quite far from Chiang Rai, which I have visited in the past. I will go again, when the fever will have subsided, because I feel a need to meet all these children and their coach. Beyond all the drama, there is something spiritual in this story...a former monk/ coach and 12 disciples/children brings memories of Jesus and his 12 apostles (I am neither a christian, nor a religious man)...seeing them in such good spirits after 10 days in the dark and complete isolation was nothing short of a miracle (in the sense of unnatural or supernatural). What this coach has done with his team is absolutely fascinating! Nobody seems to have noticed how special is this group. I mean, here we have adolescents who dedicate their time to sport and nature discovery, while moving around on bicycles. Meanwhile, the norm for adolescents nowadays is to destroy their bodies with alcool and cigarettes, and their brains with so-called smartphones connected on social websites 24/7, while risking their lives riding motorbikes with no helmets. This group is like a survivor of bygone times... 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Well, taking anyone that deeply into a cave system during the rainy season is simply not a good idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 Firstly I feel blame should be proportioned. And the real villains are those who are responsible for the safety of the caves surely someone is? Those caves and many others in Thailand need locked gates, either on the entrance or inside to prevent anyone entering areas that may be dangerous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Basil B Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, pacovl46 said: Well, taking anyone that deeply into a cave system during the rainy season is simply not a good idea! according to the notice outside that's July to November, they went in on June 23rd... Fact is it can rain hard any day of the year in Thailand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yrag Posted July 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2018 13 hours ago, djjamie said: Unless there was a sign at the cave entrance saying "Do not enter due to monson seasan" then he is a hero that deserves acollades, medals, rewards, praise and eveeything else a hero gets. Of course if he can look into the future and he still went into the cave with the kids he should go to jail. So the question is can he see into the future? The sign at entrance says July not enter ( Warning ) , they went in June 23rd...why crucify the coach . Maybe coach was a little stupid for taking in there in the first place, ..Their were NO intent of harm….But He saved them...( Meditation) was a monk for 10 years..Just think what if he had not been there? ? He is presently the one in the worse condition, gave all food and water to the boys. He saved those boys lives, , further more officials should have Gated the entrance knowing the risk long ago…They be the ones should be held accountable...Coach parents died at very young age...Presently thousands of families here in Thailand want to adopt him... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yrag Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Brunolem said: Thanks. I live in Sisaket, quite far from Chiang Rai, which I have visited in the past. I will go again, when the fever will have subsided, because I feel a need to meet all these children and their coach. Beyond all the drama, there is something spiritual in this story...a former monk/ coach and 12 disciples/children brings memories of Jesus and his 12 apostles (I am neither a christian, nor a religious man)...seeing them in such good spirits after 10 days in the dark and complete isolation was nothing short of a miracle (in the sense of unnatural or supernatural). What this coach has done with his team is absolutely fascinating! Nobody seems to have noticed how special is this group. I mean, here we have adolescents who dedicate their time to sport and nature discovery, while moving around on bicycles. Meanwhile, the norm for adolescents nowadays is to destroy their bodies with alcool and cigarettes, and their brains with so-called smartphones connected on social websites 24/7, while risking their lives riding motorbikes with no helmets. This group is like a survivor of bygone times... Amazes me the kids Mental Strength and Fortitude... Perseverance CAPTIVATED THE WORLD...these kids...meditation was the key to there endurance...Coach was a monk for 10 years,,, However some these kids are christian .alot of christians there in north Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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