How close to the end of a Tourist visa can I apply for an OA visa?

[flipside555]

I have the required 800k in my bank account. By the time it has been in the account for two months, I will be 3 days away from the end of the 30 day extension to my Tourist visa. Will that be enough time to apply for the OA?

[Jingthing]

You sound very confused. You can't apply for an O A visa in Thailand! Never ever forget about that.

 

What you can do is do a two step process. First step is apply for a conversion of your tourist visa to a 90 day O visa. You need to show your funds then but no need for seasoning. The second step apply for your first annual retirement extension during the last 30 days of that new 90 day stay you got with the O visa. For that show two months seasoning which will then be no problem.

 

IMPORTANT - - Apply for your conversion ASAP. There are rules about being too late to apply for a conversion of a tourist visa but thats not about seasoning. So hurry up! No benefit in waiting at all and if you're too late you've blown it.

 

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[flipside555]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

You sound very confused. You can't apply for an O A visa in Thailand! Never ever forget about that.

 

What you can do is do a two step process. First step is apply for a conversion of your tourist visa to a 90 day O visa. You need to show your funds then but no need for seasoning. 

 

Thanks for that. I was aware that it is a 2-step process, but it seems I got the terminology wrong, and maybe the process too. I thought it went like this.

1. Apply for a conversion to  (what I thought was) an OA visa.

2. Apply for a retirement extension to the "OA" visa.

I thought I needed to have the funds on deposit for 2 months before I applied for the conversion.

 

So, if I convert the Tourist visa to a 90 day O, do I get another 90 days from the date of the conversion?

[Jingthing]

Forget the term OA. Those are only on offer from home countries. Never Thailand.

 

 

Yes you do not need seasoning for the first step which is the conversion to a 90 day O visa. I think that new 90 days starts from the end of your tourist visa ending date but get that confirmed. But yes obnoxiously the 90 day visa gives you 90 days and that gives you plenty of time to season funds for two months!

 

For the second step the annual retirement extension the one year stay definitely starts after the end of the 90 day O visa so there is no downside to applying 30 days before the expiration and indeed it would be foolish to wait till the last days unless you have no choice.

 

Be clear you can be too late to do the conversion of the tourist visa though I don't recall the exact number of days where it would be too late.

 

Please stop using the term OA. What you're getting is not the same as that.

 

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[flipside555]

OK. So, I need to find out what the cut-off date is for applying for the conversion. It sounds as though I will not have enough time. By the time the money is seasoned, I will have only 3 days before the Tourist visa expires.

[jerry921]

Noooo

 

You don't need the money seasoned to convert from tourist to non-O. You need to go do that conversion now. That gets you 90 days on the non-O. Close to the end of that 90 days you apply for a one-year extension. That is when the money needs to be seasoned. But by then it will be, because that's 90 days from now, at least, and you already have the money in the account seasoning away.

[Jingthing]

OK. So, I need to find out what the cut-off date is for applying for the conversion. It sounds as though I will not have enough time. By the time the money is seasoned, I will have only 3 days before the Tourist visa expires.

I told you numerous times already the money does not need seasoning to apply for the conversion!!!!!

Hurry up and do that and then later worry about the retirement extension application as by that time you will have more than enough time to season the funds because you'll have a new 90 day visa.

 

 

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[Jingthing]

Noooo
 
You don't need the money seasoned to convert from tourist to non-O. You need to go do that conversion now. That gets you 90 days on the non-O. Close to the end of that 90 days you apply for a one-year extension. That is when the money needs to be seasoned. But by then it will be, because that's 90 days from now, at least, and you already have the money in the account seasoning away.

EXACTLY.

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[flipside555]

29 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes you do not need seasoning for the first step which is the conversion to a 90 day O visa.

Sorry for the confusion guys. I misread this as "yes you do need...". Time to get some sleep. Thanks for your  help. I'll get on with the conversion without delay.

[Jingthing]

Sorry for the confusion guys. I misread this as "yes you do need...". Time to get some sleep. Thanks for your  help. I'll get on with the conversion without delay.

Great.
In other words you posted here thinking you had a problem with seasoning and actually there is no problem because for the first step the conversion seasoning is not needed and for the second step the annual retirement extension there will have been plenty of time to season for two months because you will be getting a new 90 day visa.

Good luck.

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[ubonjoe]

3 hours ago, flipside555 said:

OK. So, I need to find out what the cut-off date is for applying for the conversion. It sounds as though I will not have enough time. By the time the money is seasoned, I will have only 3 days before the Tourist visa expires.

As said the funds do not need to be in the bank for any amount of time to apply for a non immigrant visa.

You must have 15 days (21 at some offices) remaining on your permit to stay to apply for it.

Requirements are here. https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_80

[sometimewoodworker]

10 hours ago, flipside555 said:

Sorry for the confusion guys. I misread this as "yes you do need...". Time to get some sleep. Thanks for your  help. I'll get on with the conversion without delay.

If you currently have less than 21 days or in some offices 15 days remaining then instead of a conversation you can take a trip to Laos, or other nearby countries for a Non-O. No seasoning of money required, though often proof that you have it.

[Suradit69]

12 hours ago, Jingthing said:

But yes obnoxiously the 90 day visa gives you 90 days

"Auto-word-correct" will get you every time.

[Jingthing]

"Auto-word-correct" will get you every time.

Yep. Funny one.

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[buick]

16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I think that new 90 days starts from the end of your tourist visa ending date but get that confirmed.

the 90 day non imm O starts on the day of application for the conversion.  i expected that it would start the day i got the non imm O stamp in the passport (approx two weeks after the application was made).  but that was not the case.  not a big difference for most but i was trying to time my annual extension of stay for a particular period and that surprise two week difference made a big difference (long story i won't burden anyone with).

[Jingthing]

the 90 day non imm O starts on the day of application for the conversion.  i expected that it would start the day i got the non imm O stamp in the passport (approx two weeks after the application was made).  but that was not the case.  not a big difference for most but i was trying to time my annual extension of stay for a particular period and that surprise two week difference made a big difference (long story i won't burden anyone with).

Thanks for the confirmation. Not what I would have predicted but it makes no difference to the OP as far as his ability to season his funds for two months as the new visa is for three months.

To add when doing the annual extensions they begin after the old visa expiration date so that there is no benefit to wait until the last days. One month before is typical.

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[scubascuba3]

If you currently have less than 21 days or in some offices 15 days remaining then instead of a conversation you can take a trip to Laos, or other nearby countries for a Non-O. No seasoning of money required, though often proof that you have it.

In your example, any currency is ok?

 

[sometimewoodworker]

20 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

In your example, any currency is ok?

 

For exact correct up to date information you should contact UbonJoe. I would specify your preferred destinations, cities as well as countries.

[scubascuba3]

For exact correct up to date information you should contact UbonJoe. I would specify your preferred destinations, cities as well as countries.

I wasn't going to sue you if you got it wrong. "I think so" would have been sufficient

[sometimewoodworker]

38 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

49 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

For exact correct up to date information you should contact UbonJoe. I would specify your preferred destinations, cities as well as countries.

I wasn't going to sue you if you got it wrong. "I think so" would have been sufficient

Well the point is that the information on the website of the embassy's and consulates isn't always correct, so it is best to get the real information from the resident guru. Then you can be sure you will have no problems.

[whaleboneman]

10 hours ago, Suradit69 said:

"Auto-word-correct" will get you every time.

I thought it was a freudian slip.

[Jingthing]

12 hours ago, whaleboneman said:

I thought it was a freudian slip.

As far as I know he wasn't into cross dressing in slips, but he did like cigars!