Domestic violence a serious offence, not just family matter, says Justice office

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Domestic violence a serious offence, not just family matter, says Justice office

By The Nation

 

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Every day, domestic violence hurts five children and women.

 

The problem has seemingly surged lately, with statistics showing domestic violence soared by 83.6 per cent between January and March this year. 

 

Victims are spouses, parents, siblings, children, adopted children, grandparents and in-laws. 

 

The Office of Justice Affairs on Sunday released infographics to underline the problem and recommend ways to solve it. 

 

It encouraged family members to travel and to do activities together, promote family pride, speak with understanding, have good attitudes towards one another and show mutual respect.

 

“But if domestic violence still happens, seek help from relevant authorities and alert police,” the guidance emphasises. 

 

It also encouraged neighbours to take action if they notice domestic violence in their areas. 

 

“Do not think it’s a family matter. When violence occurs, victims need help and police can intervene,” the advice notes. 

 

It suggested that victims could also seek help from doctors or state hospitals. 

 

Although it is common for family members to quarrel, things should never escalate into violence, according to the Office of Justice Affairs.

 

Domestic violence is punishable by up to six months in jail and/or a fine of Bt6,000.

 

In some cases, offenders may also be punished under the criminal laws. 

 

Domestic violence is sometimes associated with other behaviours such as gambling, brawling, drug abuse and alcohol addiction.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30351015

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-07-30

[Samui Bodoh]

Domestic violence a serious offence, not just family matter, says Justice office

 

Actually, it is a crime. Until you call it a crime, loudly for all to hear, and take demonstrable action against it, nothing much will change.

 

Instead of a press release and 'infographics' , why not give in-depth training to the police and instruct them to deal with it as it should be dealt with, as an assault. 

 

I applaud the fact that there is a story on this issue at all, but (respectfully), there needs to be more done.

 

"...Every day, domestic violence hurts five children and women..."

 

Wouldn't it be nice if that didn't occur?

 

[Lungstib]

If you beat up a stranger on the street it can result in very serious charges with many years in prison if convicted. Beat up the woman in the kitchen or the kid watching TV and its considered a "domestic" which the police dont want to deal with. Does a marriage certificate really make this much difference?

[sammieuk1]

Welcome to the period drama set in modern day Thailand ?

[Darcula]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Victims are spouses, parents, siblings, children, adopted children, grandparents and in-laws. 

 

Basically, everybody except Somchai with his me-myself-I attitude.

[canopy]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Every day, domestic violence hurts five children and women.

Surely that must mean per village at the very least. It's a common, accepted part of the culture that occurs frequently in rural Thailand. It isn't hidden behind closed doors. Everyone knows about it and it adds something to gawk or gossip about, even laugh at it, that's it. The next generation is conditioned that it is normal and proper thing they should also do.

 

[mikebell]

Thai males are feted from cradle to the grave.  They are used to having everything their way.  If denied, they resort to violence, having practised, with impunity,  on their sisters during their cosseted childhood.

[Khun Paul]

Any assault is a criminal Offence from Actual Bodily Harm to Murder with degrees in between ( GBH, GBH with Intent, Attempted Murder, manslaughter, Murder etc ) 

here the problem is that the POLICE have not been trained and have no clue, plus investigating  Domestic Abuse does not appear on the radar of Criminal offences and plus it makes no cash for the officer. 

Sad but true, the number of times I have been told abolut men hiotting women and some of them are Police officers, then you can see why it is not taken seriously, it is inbred in to the culture. Men are No1, Women second class. How many FEMALE Police generals are there ?????

Edited July 30, 2018 by Khun Paul
adding a sentence

[newatthis]

1 hour ago, mikebell said:

Thai males are feted from cradle to the grave.  They are used to having everything their way.  If denied, they resort to violence, having practised, with impunity,  on their sisters during their cosseted childhood.

Of course, the recent example of the "tom" assault on her partner shows that females should not be excluded from your generalization.

[Chassa]

36 minutes ago, newatthis said:

Of course, the recent example of the "tom" assault on her partner shows that females should not be excluded from your generalization.

A man would lose too much face by admitting his female partner beat him up. but, there are such cases.

[NoshowJones]

1 hour ago, Khun Paul said:

Any assault is a criminal Offence from Actual Bodily Harm to Murder with degrees in between ( GBH, GBH with Intent, Attempted Murder, manslaughter, Murder etc ) 

here the problem is that the POLICE have not been trained and have no clue, plus investigating  Domestic Abuse does not appear on the radar of Criminal offences and plus it makes no cash for the officer. 

Sad but true, the number of times I have been told abolut men hiotting women and some of them are Police officers, then you can see why it is not taken seriously, it is inbred in to the culture. Men are No1, Women second class. How many FEMALE Police generals are there ?????

"How many FEMALE Police generals are there ?????"

Probably not many, how many women do you think can afford to pay for the Police Generals

rank, uniform, medals and ribbons?

[spidermike007]

Real men do not beat up their wives, or their children. They protect their families, they do not harm them. Only a man child, a reprobate, a super freak, a half worm, and a sociopath beats up his family. Jail is the appropriate penalty, and the fellow inmates will devote special attention to a half man who beat up his family. He will get all the attention he deserves in the slammer. 

 

And real men who perform their jobs on the judiciary convict men like these. Otherwise, they are not men at all. Just posers.

Edited July 30, 2018 by spidermike007

[thaichiro]

And most women never go to the authorities out of embarrassment or fear of family reprisals. The figure is huge, not only here but around the world. The U.N. Should make this a priority, but they would rather focus on the effects than the cause. Give the men canings in the town square regularly and you’ll see a turnaround in Somchai’s behaviour. Of course giving the victims refuge and resources would go hand in hand with this.

[from the home of CC]

I had a small supermarket near Krabi years back and would notice after the weekend so many women would come into my store with black eyes and such. My wife would have to sell goods to the husbands when they came in later cause I couldn't stand them being in the store. Although despising it as much as I,  my wife would just say ' village life '. Drastic changes are needed but I don't see this forthcoming anytime soon. Some people do to others what they witnessed as children, self perpetuating misery one generation to the next. And with the state of education such as it is......

[barefootbangkok]

I worked for CPS for a year so have seen a lot of family violence. When I first came to Bkk, I saw a guy with a couple friends beating on his gf at the BTS Phrom Phong area, laughing the whole time. Called the tourist police and then the regular BIB. 

They laughed and told me to mind my own business.  I don't think attitudes have changed much since then.

[Tchooptip]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Real men do not beat up their wives, or their children. They protect their families, they do not harm them. Only a man child, a reprobate, a super freak, a half worm, and a sociopath beats up his family. Jail is the appropriate penalty, and the fellow inmates will devote special attention to a half man who beat up his family. He will get all the attention he deserves in the slammer. 

 

And real men who perform their jobs on the judiciary convict men like these. Otherwise, they are not men at all. Just posers.

1

"Only a man child , a reprobate, a super freak, a half worm, and a sociopath beats up his family."

Absolutely agree, on the other hand, I always wondered how it was possible that there are so many in every country?

Suffice to read the news to realize that it is not of great rarity 

[BritManToo]

20 minutes ago, Tchooptip said:

"Only a man child , a reprobate, a super freak, a half worm, and a sociopath beats up his family."

Absolutely agree, on the other hand, I always wondered how it was possible that there are so many in every country?

Suffice to read the news to realize that it is not of great rarity 

Why blame only men, women in Thailand are just as likely to be handing out the beatings.

Just look at recent news, an endless list of women beating/killing men.

Edited July 30, 2018 by BritManToo

[Barnet]

I am not sure of the stats involved here.  I am no expert on any of it but as a guess I'd say both Thai men and women resort to violence due to their inability to talk things through rationally like we do in the west.  There are very few creditable outlets to discuss issues.  There is no remedial service available.  Families and friends stick together and can't see things for what they actually are.  Add to this a freak show of an upbringing in regards to handling your problems emotions or when to keep your mouth shut and the result is a pressure cooker waiting to go off.

 

Women are equally if not more spiteful than men in domestic disagreements.  The difference is STILL, that a woman can slap a man in the face both at home and in public and it is seen as an action that carries a potential reason for happening.  Should a man slap a woman in the same situation and he would likely be arrested and charged as a domestic abuser.  If the public were to watch both actions occur it would be interesting to see the difference in response. 

[Tchooptip]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Why blame only men, women in Thailand are just as likely to be handing out the beatings.

Just look at recent news, an endless list of women beating/killing men.

It was an answer to a spidermike007 sentence! 

"an endless list" is a small exaggeration...

...but those little exaggerations  being generally welcome on TV, no one will blame you 

[worgeordie]

There they go stating the bleeding obvious again.

regards worgeordie

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Barnet said:

Women are equally if not more spiteful than men in domestic disagreements.  The difference is STILL, that a woman can slap a man in the face both at home and in public and it is seen as an action that carries a potential reason for happening.  Should a man slap a woman in the same situation and he would likely be arrested and charged as a domestic abuser.  If the public were to watch both actions occur it would be interesting to see the difference in response. 

Not in Thailand.

The Thai police usually ignore domestic violence reports (from men or women) until someone is stabbed or killed.

Although after a severe beating I have seen a Thai policeman offer to watch while they pack their bags, then escort the victim to the bus station.

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, Tchooptip said:

It was an answer to a spidermike007 sentence! 

"an endless list" is a small exaggeration...

...but those little exaggerations  being generally welcome on TV, no one will blame you 

Assistant nurse shooting guy in car, woman running over husband in supermarket car park, 'ito' knife, Tom giving Dee a beating in the car park, Chiang Mai wife 'glock' shooting husband.

Can't find any man beating someone, found 5 women handing out stories.

 

Feel free to point me to the man beating someone stories.

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1050565-chiang-mai-wife-grabs-her-philandering-husbands-glock-and-shoots-him-dead-in-bed

 

 

If anything it's worst than I originally stated!

Edited July 30, 2018 by BritManToo

[Tchooptip]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Assistant nurse shooting guy in car, woman running over husband in supermarket car park, 'ito' knife, Tom giving Dee a beating in the car park, Chiang Mai wife 'glock' shooting husband.

Can't find any man beating someone, found 5 women handing out stories.

 

Feel free to point me to the man beating someone stories.

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1050565-chiang-mai-wife-grabs-her-philandering-husbands-glock-and-shoots-him-dead-in-bed

 

 

If anything it's worst than I originally stated!

 The least we can say is that you have persistence in your ideas?

  but you won't mind if I don't do the same job just to try to contradict you.

  So you won by technical knockout ??

[Sir Dude]

Domestic violence is serious issue and those guilty of it should face the full force of the law as it's no different than assaulting anyone else. Crimes of passion to those that people are familiar with/or not for that matter, does not excuse you from not being about to control yourself. As is often said, familiarity breeds contempt in many situations (not all though obviously)...but that is not an excuse.

Edited July 30, 2018 by Sir Dude
Typos

[Voodoochile]

Though not perfect (nobody is) I wish we had more world leaders like Trump especially in dying Europe. He has two things which are  endagered umongst all men not just politicians and that is...................

BALLS and CONVICTIONS.

 

Remember all the hate you have spewed at this man you don't realize what you have until it's gone and I get the feeling that soon enough you will realize your mistakes and wish he was still your leader.