snoop1130 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 In reversal, army now says no footage of activist's killing By Teeranai Charuvastra, Staff Reporter Chaiyaphum Pasae, front, seen in a music video he made with his friends. Image: Now Channel / YouTube BANGKOK — Shortly after soldiers stopped and killed a 17-year-old ethnic activist at a checkpoint in northern Thailand, the army said it had incontrovertible proof they had acted in self-defense: security camera footage from the scene. An army commander even told reporters he would have shot Chaiyaphum Pasae himself after watching the footage. But the lawyers representing his family said they never got to view the video of the March 2017 killing, despite multiple requests. And now it seems they never will. Full Story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2018/08/10/in-reversal-army-now-says-no-footage-of-activists-killing/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-8-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Coastrider Posted August 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2018 I guess Buddha never said don't lie as it seems rampant in Thailand. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rebo Posted August 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2018 It's incredible how blatandly the public is told such scurrilous lies by officers who are responsible to protect the population! Words cannot express ... 14 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lungstib Posted August 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2018 They act worse than children at school. Make up stories, concoct 'evidence', destroy what doesn't fit their theory and lie when caught in a contradiction. They need to be held on charges of obstruction of justice. How can Thai citizens have faith in these people? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sir Dude Posted August 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2018 I am surprised by the acceptance of such obvious BS by the Thai public too. However, it seems to me that as long as you don't take away their Internet and their food and shopping malls...then the majority don't care. 11 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted August 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Lungstib said: They act worse than children at school. Make up stories, concoct 'evidence', destroy what doesn't fit their theory and lie when caught in a contradiction. They need to be held on charges of obstruction of justice. How can Thai citizens have faith in these people? Of course they act worse than children at school, because that's the mentality they've been brought up with, and know they can get away with it. The public don't have faith in the army. They just ignore them and get on with their lives. The vast majority have never been been abroad to experience anything else first-hand, so because this is all they know, that's why they accept it/ignore it. That's my perception anyway, FWIW. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james.d Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Evidence "taped over for lack of space" or "didn't have the right program to open the file"....... shocking but expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Very sad for the family and the young man. The terror he went thru in the last minute or so of his life. What a waste. RIP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cadbury Posted August 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2018 Thai men are children and lying comes naturally to them. No need to look further that the junta generals They are the showpiece of juvenility. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yellowboat Posted August 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2018 In a real military, officers would be held to account and court marshalled for this sort of failure. Somebody would need to be held accountable. The unaccountability starts at the top and never stops 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Sir Dude said: I am surprised by the acceptance of such obvious BS by the Thai public too. However, it seems to me that as long as you don't take away their Internet and their food and shopping malls...then the majority don't care. You missed out Facebook. And by the way the majority of Thais don't live in Bangkok and barely scrape a living so certainly it won't worry them if they have no shopping malls as they don't go to them anyway but FB and cheap smart phones, that's a different story 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eligius Posted August 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Sir Dude said: I am surprised by the acceptance of such obvious BS by the Thai public too. However, it seems to me that as long as you don't take away their Internet and their food and shopping malls...then the majority don't care. That's it - you've said it, Sir Dude. The majority of Thais with whom I come into contact don't seem to show much concern with such difficult abstract concepts as 'moral principle', 'professional ethics', 'the rule of law', etc. Mai ben rai. The main thing is - keep those great (superbly, realistically acted) Thai soap operas going, and all those funny game shows, with the boings and bongs and whistles. That is what life is really all about here - THAT is what matters - not silly 'confusing' things like political principle, justice, law and order, freedom of conscience and freedom of expression. If you are concerned with such things, then - 'you think too much'! Edited August 10, 2018 by Eligius 9 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seajae Posted August 10, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2018 finally realized the video was very incriminating, disappeared like the one on Koh Tao 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 4 hours ago, Sir Dude said: I am surprised by the acceptance of such obvious BS by the Thai public too. However, it seems to me that as long as you don't take away their Internet and their food and shopping malls...then the majority don't care. Add facebook... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 karma will have it cached... somewhere 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 minute ago, tifino said: karma will have it cached... somewhere Surely the past tense of catch is caught? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, bluesofa said: Surely the past tense of catch is caught? Cached, as in... Coconuts had a video, as there is a trace that one was there, but has since been removed! so therefore someone somewhere might still have their viewing of it, in their cache - depending on their PC's settings for History Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Eligius said: That's it - you've said it, Sir Dude. The majority of Thais with whom I come into contact don't seem to show much concern with such difficult abstract concepts as 'moral principle', 'professional ethics', 'the rule of law', etc. Mai ben rai. The main thing is - keep those great (superbly, realistically acted) Thai soap operas going, and all those funny game shows, with the boings and bongs and whistles. That is what life is really all about here - THAT is what matters - not silly 'confusing' things like political principle, justice, law and order, freedom of conscience and freedom of expression. If you are concerned with such things, then - 'you think too much'! Thinking what needs to be thought, saying what needs to be said, doing what needs to done.......gets you killed in Thailand. Empathy - Wikipedia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 9 hours ago, Coastrider said: I guess Buddha never said don't lie as it seems rampant in Thailand. Once you realise ALL religions are total and utter BS it makes life so much easier to understand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 20 hours ago, snoop1130 said: ... the army said it had incontrovertible proof they had acted in self-defense ... And now they don't. Some incontrovertible proof, that was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Irecall many months ago the police sent a copy of the video to the guys' lawyer but the lawyer's staff couldn't find the needed application to open it. I wonder if the lawyer ever got some professional help to get it opened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 The soldiers and officers involved in this cover up will surely be recognised favourably in the soon to be approved military reshuffle. They have shown great courage in losing the tapes and so avoiding an embarrassing situation for the PM and the Army. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Sure there must be a minister for how incontrovertible proof can be bought and sold or was it the army commander all along in the missing video no good looking for justice in this one it stinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Hmmmm, what to believe ? they probably just thought it was him because it looked exactly like him, and he was traveling that road at almost the exact same time, with what sounded like the same exact name. The error was probably to to lack of sleep because the baby was up all night crying, or something wrong with grandma, as family is always the most acceptable excuse in the land of unaccountably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobbie49 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Surely the past tense of catch is caught? Past participle of cache is cached. Of catch it is caught you pedantic titSent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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