German far-right protesters clash with leftists after Chemnitz stabbing

[micmichd]

57 minutes ago, Opl said:

So you are saying Europe is condemned to become Africa's/ME's suburb , and has no other choice than to submit to the conséquences of décades long - legal and illegal - mass immigration - only because of its democratic values.    

Yes. 

Not "Africa's/ME's suburb", of course, but part of what global economists call EMEA. With universal human rights as a basic value, at least equal chances for all.

[maximillian]

On 8/28/2018 at 9:35 AM, thaiguzzi said:

Well chuck them all out then and send them back.

 

And don't forget to chuck Merkel & Co. with them, far away to Nevercomebackland.

Somehow I'm afraid the whole thing was planned to divide and de-stabilize the nation.

Cui bono ?

[Opl]

22 minutes ago, micmichd said:

Yes. 

Not "Africa's/ME's suburb", of course, but part of what global economists call EMEA. With universal human rights as a basic value, at least equal chances for all.

do you really believe that people dreaming of Europe for economic reasons really do care for democratic values as we here in Europe understand them - regarding what their personal beliefs and traditions are ? Do they claim for equality when it suits their self-interest as they consider Europe as  a milk-cow? 

Edited September 2, 2018 by Opl

[blazes]

Just now, maximillian said:

 

And don't forget to chuck Merkel & Co. with them, far away to Nevercomebackland.

Somehow I'm afraid the whole thing was planned to divide and de-stabilize the nation.

Cui bono ?

Cui bono?  

Civil servants in Brussels, surely.  Lucrative branch of government this migrant business.

[maximillian]

6 minutes ago, blazes said:

Cui bono?  

Civil servants in Brussels, surely.  Lucrative branch of government this migrant business.

 

I'll be more straightforward: how about the US ?

Divide et impera.

 

USA Plans the Decay of Russia & Germany by George Friedman

[micmichd]

7 minutes ago, Opl said:

do you really believe that people dreaming of Europe for economic reasons really do care for democratic values as we here in Europe understand them - regarding what their personal beliefs and traditions are - therefore claim for equality when it suits their self-interest as they consider Europe as no more than a milk-cow?      

Economic reasons are enough if they accept that money is based on labour. Guess most immigrants accept this. And then they are not only milking the cow, they are also feeding it. 

 

I worked all my life long, contributed to the social security system, and I don't give a damn who keeps this rotating system alive. 

But I certainly did not work for losers who claim alimentation because they are not able to feed themselves without social benefits (taxpayers' money) even at the age of 50. 

[Opl]

7 minutes ago, micmichd said:

Economic reasons are enough if they accept that money is based on labour. Guess most immigrants accept this. And then they are not only milking the cow, they are also feeding it. 

 

I worked all my life long, contributed to the social security system, and I don't give a damn who keeps this rotating system alive. 

But I certainly did not work for losers who claim alimentation because they are not able to feed themselves without social benefits (taxpayers' money) even at the age of 50. 

" Refugee reality: Germany admits 75% face long-term unemployment and life on benefits"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/820480/Germany-migrant-crisis-refugees-long-term-unemployment-benefits-Angela-Merkel

[micmichd]

12 minutes ago, Opl said:

" Refugee reality: Germany admits 75% face long-term unemployment and life on benefits"

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/820480/Germany-migrant-crisis-refugees-long-term-unemployment-benefits-Angela-Merkel

So what? Any idea how many native Germans (especially in Saxony) live on benefits (i.e. taxpayers' money)? Why should this white trash be treated better than coloured people? 

Not to be confused: Refugees are not labour immigrants, but they should have a chance to become labour immigrants. And that is what the mob in Chemnitz wants to prevent. 

[Opl]

17 minutes ago, micmichd said:

So what? Any idea how many native Germans (especially in Saxony) live on benefits (i.e. taxpayers' money)? Why should this white trash be treated better than coloured people? 

Not to be confused: Refugees are not labour immigrants, but they should have a chance to become labour immigrants. And that is what the mob in Chemnitz wants to prevent. 

So what? Really?

"Ossies"  = "white trash" for you?

Do you really believe only "néo-nazis" are concerned by the impact of massive third world immigration on their societies? 

 

 

[micmichd]

11 minutes ago, Opl said:

So what? Really?

"Ossies"  = "white trash" for you?

Do you really believe only "néo-nazis" are concerned by the impact of massive third world immigration on their societies? 

 

 

White Trash = the ones that never managed to make a living without alimentation from the German nanny state (i.e. taxpayers' money) 

Not only hard-core Nazis but also the countless bystanders. 

Btw there are hardly any new refugees coming to Saxony nowadays, so the mob will need other scapegoats. Pensioners who prefer to spend their money in sunny Thailand instead of icy Germany could be the next scapegoats on their list. I already had the chance to taste their attitude on people like me - and it was not hard-core Nazis that tried to keep me from emigrating. 

Not sure if you understand the German word "Vaterlandsverraeter" (traitor). That's what they called me - simply because they wanted the money that I had worked for, and ran mad when I told them that of course I would take everything with me and not leave them one penny. 

[ivor bigun]

There's many things a German majority can change, but they cannot change the German constitution which clearly states that all mankind have equal human rights, whoever they are and wherever they come from. 
So, Germans will have to face mass immigration and become multicultural, whether they want it or not. It's even to their own advantage in the long run. 
Yes, I know, it's a painful process (UK, France and Holland had to go through this), but it's an evolutionary prerequisite.

What planet do you come from? Its taken hundreds of years to come to where we are in the west now ,why ? So we can let a bunch of people who mainly still live in the past in to destroy what we built? Thank God you are in a minority

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[Slip]

27 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

What planet do you come from? Its taken hundreds of years to come to where we are in the west now ,why ? So we can let a bunch of people who mainly still live in the past in to destroy what we built? Thank God you are in a minority

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Irony of the week award.  Thanking your own sky fairy for the fact that there are more people who hate people because of their sky fairy than not. 

[micmichd]

38 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

What planet do you come from? Its taken hundreds of years to come to where we are in the west now ,why ? So we can let a bunch of people who mainly still live in the past in to destroy what we built? Thank God you are in a minority

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I came from South Asia to the West before I started to study and work in Germany, and my world view is not yours.

I know how the West was built up because I've seen it: not only by your personal effort but also by the sweat and the blood of what Frantz Fanon once called "the salt of the earth" 

And now the West gets the bill. 

I'm a minority in Germany, yes I know, but here in Asia (the continent of the 21st century) I'm guest of a global majority. There's absolutely nothing you can do about it. Frustrating, isn't it?

Edited September 2, 2018 by micmichd

[ivor bigun]

Irony of the week award.  Thanking your own sky fairy for the fact that there are more people who hate people because of their sky fairy than not. 

Well it was an expression only as i do not believe in God or any other religous claptrap,thought up to control people at least the wests sky fairy has evolved unlike some others sky fairy that just believes in total control and domination

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[dick dasterdly]

25 minutes ago, Slip said:

Irony of the week award.  Thanking your own sky fairy for the fact that there are more people who hate people because of their sky fairy than not. 

 

19 minutes ago, ivor bigun said:

Well it was an expression only as i do not believe in God or any other religous claptrap,thought up to control people at least the wests sky fairy has evolved unlike some others sky fairy that just believes in total control and domination

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"Well it was an expression only as i do not believe in God or any other religous claptrap"

 

Exactly.  'Thank god' is a common expression used by all/many of us who have no time for religion at all - to laugh/show happiness about something that went our way.  I use it frequently myself.

 

Slip was either deliberately searching for an excuse to ridicule your post, or doesn't realise this is a common expression amongst atheist and agnostic brits.

 

 

Edited September 2, 2018 by dick dasterdly

[Slip]

I admit it- I was being a smart arse.  No offence intended.

[roobaa01]

6 hours ago, micmichd said:

Of cause no photos of assaulted foreigners, foreigners didn't dare out on the streets when rumours spread that the Nazi mob had taken over. 

also no forigners reported injured to any hospital, no videos, no photos the whole story about far right wing hunting down foreigners in chemnitz is fake news or media crab or can anybody prove the opposite ?? what happened really the german media reports were simply copied by the us press, british without properly checking.

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roobaa01

[simple1]

@Dundee48

 

Rather than posting negative emoticons on nearly all my posts in this topic and others, try articulating your concerns with factual counter response. 

[roobaa01]

7 hours ago, micmichd said:

You must be from another country if you start putting the blame on foreigners again.

Remember Rostock-Lichtenhagen (east of Berlin) in 1992? For 3 days German Neo-Nazis burnt houses with immigrants from Vietnam, and the whole town (all these bystanders) applauded. Those Vietnamese certainly never stabbed or raped any Germans,  the bunch of German losers simply needed a scapegoat for their miserable low lives. 

 

Be glad you live in Thailand with your wife. In Germany she would be severely bashed (probably too beautiful as compared to German women), and her kids (if she has any) even worse. There's a good reason why Issan ladies queue up in front of the German Embassy in Bangkok with signs stating "I am not a prostitute"

 

These are facts. Up to you if you call German behaviour racistic or not. 

facts are that in the first quarter of 2018 83 germans have been brutally murdered by migrant thus almost every day. in 2015 there were 51 cases so a rise of 59.2 along with merkel open border misfit policy illegal immigration kills germans and jews like maria in wiesbaden. the aforementioned figures just released by the german fbi.

 

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roobaa01

[roobaa01]

5 hours ago, micmichd said:

Economic reasons are enough if they accept that money is based on labour. Guess most immigrants accept this. And then they are not only milking the cow, they are also feeding it. 

 

I worked all my life long, contributed to the social security system, and I don't give a damn who keeps this rotating system alive. 

But I certainly did not work for losers who claim alimentation because they are not able to feed themselves without social benefits (taxpayers' money) even at the age of 50. 

vietnamese being called the asian prussians, hence no wonder they fit well into german society as well as thais and chinese do also reflected in school or university results whereas from the 2015 onwards migrant stream 90 % are a cultural and social burden for they are hindering social and economic progress as their believe is medival and as horst seehofer said, their belief  did not belong to germany. 

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roobaa01

[welovesundaysatspace]

5 hours ago, Opl said:

Do you really believe only "néo-nazis" are concerned by the impact of massive third world immigration on their societies? 

Yes, by definition. Being scared of people because of their race, skin color, etc. is what makes a neo-nazi. So it doesn’t matter whether you shave your head and wear boots or not. 

 

 

4 hours ago, ivor bigun said:

So we can let a bunch of people who mainly still live in the past in to destroy what we built?

Is that the neo-nazis you are referring to? 

 

 

2 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

also no forigners reported injured to any hospital, no videos, no photos the whole story about far right wing hunting down foreigners in chemnitz is fake news or media crab or can anybody prove the opposite ??

Enough eye-witness reports and images/videos of neo-nazis assaulting the press and foreign-looking people. 

 

Didn’t you learn from the Trump baby that screaming “fake news” doesn’t work to hide the truth but makes you look like a liar?

Edited September 2, 2018 by welovesundaysatspace

[welovesundaysatspace]

49 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

from the 2015 onwards migrant stream 90 % are a cultural and social burden for they are hindering social and economic progress as their believe is medival

Typical neo-nazi nonsense missing any evidence. Who you think gonna believe your propaganda?

 

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as horst seehofer said, their belief  did not belong to germany. 

I think Horst Seehofer’s beliefs don’t belong to Germany. 

Edited September 2, 2018 by welovesundaysatspace

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

facts are that in the first quarter of 2018 83 germans have been brutally murdered by migrant thus almost every day. in 2015 there were 51 cases so a rise of 59.2 along with merkel open border misfit policy illegal immigration kills germans and jews like maria in wiesbaden. the aforementioned figures just released by the german fbi.

 

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roobaa01

Will you produce an independently verifiable source for your claim about these homicides?

Edited September 2, 2018 by bristolboy

[roobaa01]

15 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Will you produce an independently verifiable source for your claim about these homicides?

german fbi report released this week. you look at the german paper"welt am sonntag" issued 02.09.18

 

 

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roobaa01

Edited September 2, 2018 by roobaa01

[bristolboy]

5 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

german fbi report released this week.

 

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roobaa01

You're just repeating yourself. Can you produce a link?

[welovesundaysatspace]

16 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

german fbi report released this week. 

Oh, the FBI is reporting about German domestic crimes now? Do you really expect anyone to take you seriously? 

 

Reality is:

 

German local commit more crimes on a per-capita basis than migrants. If you take out crimes committed from migrants against migrants the number gets even smaller. 

 

So where have all you worried citizens been the last time a German stabbed or raped someone? Did you also scream “Germans go away” then?

 

Truth is, all you neo-nazis don’t give a shit about crime or safety of the people. If that was the case, you would start with your own people, because they commit more crimes than migrants. Truth is, you use single acts of crime committed by migrants to create hatred. It’s just a cover for your racist ideology. 

[roobaa01]

1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Typical neo-nazi nonsense missing any evidence. Who you think gonna believe your propaganda?

 

I think Horst Seehofer’s beliefs don’t belong to Germany. 

csu hristian csoeder, scheuer, dobrinth csu believe the same 

 

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roobaa01

[welovesundaysatspace]

9 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

you call me as a jew neo nazi that is corbyn language meaning antisemite

shalom.

If you don’t want to be called a neo-nazi, don’t act like one. And no, it’s not antisemitic to call a neo-nazi a neo-nazi. You better look up again in a dictionary what “antisemitic” means. 

Edited September 2, 2018 by welovesundaysatspace

[welovesundaysatspace]

4 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

csu hristian csoeder, scheuer, dobrinth csu believe the same 

Yes. And Adolf Hitler wasn’t alone either. Why should there be only one stupid person in Bavaria?

[welovesundaysatspace]

8 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

 

 this is a racist comment biased about the jewish people absolurely antisetism.

Wait, is it racist or is it antisemitic? You know what the difference is don’t you? You really should consult a dictionary before talking nonsense. 

 

But let me help you: calling a neo-nazi a neo-nazi is neither racist nor antisemitic.