Trump, without evidence, blames China for hacking Clinton emails

[joecoolfrog]

2 hours ago, freebyrd said:

13 likes and 1 haha. I knew even before I looked that the haha would be BoonMee, which apparently translates as lapdog.

It actually translates as troll or person incapable of penning any logical rebuttal.

[Athens]

12 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

The Midnight Tweeter strikes again, stay tuned for more bowel movements.

Noting better to do......

[Redline]

Does anyone take this guy seriously anymore ?

[Jingthing]

44 minutes ago, Redline said:

Does anyone take this guy seriously anymore ?

As far as being truthful or having any credibility, no.

As far as having a massive amount of power that is largely not being checked, yes.

[dcutman]

Got to love how the MSM complains about Trump tweets without  evidence, when rarely (none to date) do any news reports accusing Trump of every crime under the sun, sighting some made up or Never Trump, unnamed sources with no evidence. The Hypocrisy is laughable.

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.  

 

[dcutman]

This was such a rare moment for the FBI to comment on an investigation. I wonder who this unnamed "spokesman" for the FBI was? Peter Strohk?

Edited August 31, 2018 by dcutman

[mtls2005]

19 hours ago, watcharacters said:

 

Trump supporters seem to be committed to supporting him no matter how much he lies and no matter what crimes he commits.

 

 

With a poker analogy, when you go all in you can't pull chips back.

 

tRUmp supporters, in Congress, in the country and here, are all in.

 

It's not dissimilar to Nixon circa 1974 with the "Silent Majority", when he had massive support right up until a week or so before he resigned. Nixon won in a landslide in 1972, 520 Electoral votes, winning every state except Massachusetts (and DC).

[SheungWan]

6 hours ago, Redline said:

Does anyone take this guy seriously anymore ?

The electorate apparently.

[mtls2005]

4 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

The electorate apparently.

 

Less than a third, in 2016, anyway.

 

 

[SheungWan]

5 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

The electorate apparently.

 

1 minute ago, mtls2005 said:

Less than a third, in 2016, anyway.

More than the Dems in the key States which brought victory last time. Haven't seen too many leading Dems effectively standing up to his BS recently. The best one wasn't even a Democrat, namely John McCain.

[mtls2005]

2 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

More than the Dems in the key States which brought victory last time.

 

~ 77,000 votes in three key states, but you are correct that a minority of votes cast, and a minority of the "electorate" voted for tRUmp.

 

No one is saying that tRUmp didn't win the electoral vote, or didn't lose the popular vote.

 

 

 

 

[dcutman]

More fake news, rarely if ever does the FBI comment on investigations. When they do, they have a media spokesperson authorized to comment and can be named in the press. Any of you Trump haters catch the name of this FBI spokesperson?

https://www.justice.gov/usam/usam-1-7000-media-relations

[mcambl61]

On 8/29/2018 at 4:27 PM, zaphod reborn said:

There was never anything in Hillary's emails.  It was a fabrication of Russian intelligence which spread like wildfire through alt-right conspiracy social media groups.  By focusing everyone on Hillary's emails, Trump and his cohorts put pressure on the FBI to distract them from the real counter-terrorism investigation, which was the hacking of the DNC and DNCC emails and the GOP's conspiracy in weaponizing and targeting the dissemination of those emails to suppress Democratic vote participation.  Comey got so caught up in the furor, that he publicly disclosed the closing and then the re-opening of an investigation into Clinton's email server.  A great election strategy, but it is slowly unraveling.  Damage to the GOP could last for 20 years.

what evidence do you have of this? real verifiable evidence that there was no classified information in the 30k deleted emails.

 

two officials with the inspector general for the Intelligence Committee, identified as investigator Frank Rucker and lawyer Janette McMillan, warned FBI officials about the Chinese intrusion, to no avail. 

But the official failed to identify the company, which would provide one way to verify the authenticity of the claim. ''We do know the name of the company. There are indications there are other 'cutouts' that were involved,' the official said. 'I would be in a lot of trouble if I gave you the name,' the person said.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6107401/Did-CHINA-hack-one-Hillarys-secret-emails.html

 

of course the FBI has denied any wrong doing and eve nsaid it never happened.....I wonder why?

 

 

 

[neeray]

19 hours ago, freebyrd said:

Congratulations to BoonMee. 10 haha's on Page 1, surpassing 9 sads on Page 1 on another thread about the thatched one earlier this week. Birds of a feather, Trump shoeshiners certainly do stick together ?.

You missed one "bird". That would be BuaBS, king of "sad" emoji. But I hear he's on a little involuntary holiday!

[watcharacters]

2 hours ago, SheungWan said:

The electorate apparently.

 

Sorry, but as I replied to a diehard Trump supporting  friend who made that same statement,  the  majority results in the voting of the last Presidential election   indicated that Trump was not the choice of the voters.     The peculiar  USA process of the Electoral College  was the reason the current POTUS   is shaking up the world.

 

I question the continued use of the system but I'm not beating the drums to have it changed either.

 

Here are the final numbers:

Clinton received 65,844,610 votes, or 48.2% of the total vote.

Trump received 62,979,636 votes, or 46.1% of the total vote. (That's a difference of 2.86 million votes.)

 

It is what it is and as an American citizen I accept the outcome.

 

But an accurate comment to your post is the USA electorate did not choose  to have Donald Trump as the POTUS.

 

I'll continue to support the office of the President  and I  believe in the words of Jimmy Carter who says  he  does not wish to see  Trump impeached.     He believes in the election process which will likely mean  Trump will be a one term president as was Carter.       Their legacies however will be vastly different.

[watcharacters]

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

 

With a poker analogy, when you go all in you can't pull chips back.

 

tRUmp supporters, in Congress, in the country and here, are all in.

 

It's not dissimilar to Nixon circa 1974 with the "Silent Majority", when he had massive support right up until a week or so before he resigned. Nixon won in a landslide in 1972, 520 Electoral votes, winning every state except Massachusetts (and DC).

 

I followed the Watergate caper closely as it unfolded.     I'm amazed  Trump hasn't learned from Nixon's experience.

 President Nixon was advised to burn those incriminating tapes but he chose to preserve  them for his legacy.    The secret tapes are available for listening on www.youtube.com     I've listened to a lot of them.

 

When Pat Nixon died I started to feel a little badly for Nixon but then I read more about him which I'd forgotten and realized my feelings remained the same.     Hell, Nixon wanted to have mass arrest roundups and put everyone in  the DC football stadium.    His disrespect for Civil Rights was only reigned in by John Mitchell who was also   a stain on American history .

 

 

[mtls2005]

48 minutes ago, watcharacters said:

The secret tapes are available for listening on www.youtube.com

 

Kissinger talking him back from dropping nuclear bombs on Cambodia and Vietnam is amazing. 

 

Nixon: "I still think we ought to take the dykes out now. Will that drown people?"

 

Kissinger: "That would drown about 200,000 people."

 

Nixon: "Well, no, no, no...I'd rather use a nuclear bomb."

 

Kissinger: "That, I think would be just too much."

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, mcambl61 said:

what evidence do you have of this? real verifiable evidence that there was no classified information in the 30k deleted emails.

 

two officials with the inspector general for the Intelligence Committee, identified as investigator Frank Rucker and lawyer Janette McMillan, warned FBI officials about the Chinese intrusion, to no avail. 

But the official failed to identify the company, which would provide one way to verify the authenticity of the claim. ''We do know the name of the company. There are indications there are other 'cutouts' that were involved,' the official said. 'I would be in a lot of trouble if I gave you the name,' the person said.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6107401/Did-CHINA-hack-one-Hillarys-secret-emails.html

 

of course the FBI has denied any wrong doing and eve nsaid it never happened.....I wonder why?

 

 

 

"of course the FBI has denied any wrong doing and eve nsaid it never happened.....I wonder why?"

 

Maybe because it didn't happen?

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, dcutman said:

Got to love how the MSM complains about Trump tweets without  evidence, when rarely (none to date) do any news reports accusing Trump of every crime under the sun, sighting some made up or Never Trump, unnamed sources with no evidence. The Hypocrisy is laughable.

Care to back up this nonsensical post with referenced examples?  I thought not.

[watcharacters]

34 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Kissinger talking him back from dropping nuclear bombs on Cambodia and Vietnam is amazing. 

 

Nixon: "I still think we ought to take the dykes out now. Will that drown people?"

 

Kissinger: "That would drown about 200,000 people."

 

Nixon: "Well, no, no, no...I'd rather use a nuclear bomb."

 

Kissinger: "That, I think would be just too much."

 

 

Scary and sadly true stuff.

 

[heybruce]

5 hours ago, dcutman said:

This was such a rare moment for the FBI to comment on an investigation. I wonder who this unnamed "spokesman" for the FBI was? Peter Strohk?

 

Really?  Funny how we learned so much about the FBI investigation of HRC's emails from the FBI.

 

2 hours ago, dcutman said:

More fake news, rarely if ever does the FBI comment on investigations. When they do, they have a media spokesperson authorized to comment and can be named in the press. Any of you Trump haters catch the name of this FBI spokesperson?

https://www.justice.gov/usam/usam-1-7000-media-relations

 

Can you give the exact "fake news" story that you are referencing?  Then we can comment on your nonsensical post.

[zaphod reborn]

2 hours ago, mcambl61 said:

what evidence do you have of this? real verifiable evidence that there was no classified information in the 30k deleted emails.

 

two officials with the inspector general for the Intelligence Committee, identified as investigator Frank Rucker and lawyer Janette McMillan, warned FBI officials about the Chinese intrusion, to no avail. 

But the official failed to identify the company, which would provide one way to verify the authenticity of the claim. ''We do know the name of the company. There are indications there are other 'cutouts' that were involved,' the official said. 'I would be in a lot of trouble if I gave you the name,' the person said.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6107401/Did-CHINA-hack-one-Hillarys-secret-emails.html

 

of course the FBI has denied any wrong doing and eve nsaid it never happened.....I wonder why?

 

 

 

I didn't say there was no classified information on Hillary's private email server.  What I did say was that there was nothing probative or substantitve in the contents.  In other words, the actual content of Hillary's email server was a big nothing-burger.  Trump and the GOP hyped it as a huge criminal scandal so that they could promote their "lock her up" slogan.  Cambridge Analytica with the assistance of Russian intelligence, altered and weaponized the emails hacked from John Podesta's and DNC staffer's email accounts, and distributed them through facebook and twitter to suppress Democratic voter participation.  But, you can believe the Russian bots if you wish.

Edited August 31, 2018 by zaphod reborn

[Redline]

5 hours ago, dcutman said:

Got to love how the MSM complains about Trump tweets without  evidence, when rarely (none to date) do any news reports accusing Trump of every crime under the sun, sighting some made up or Never Trump, unnamed sources with no evidence. The Hypocrisy is laughable.

Time will tell ?

[SheungWan]

4 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

~ 77,000 votes in three key states, but you are correct that a minority of votes cast, and a minority of the "electorate" voted for tRUmp.

No one is saying that tRUmp didn't win the electoral vote, or didn't lose the popular vote.

Electorally, there is no 'popular' vote in the Presidential election. There is an Electoral College vote and Trump won that. And the Democrats should focus on that rather than popularity and other pet nostrums. When they get a candidate who is able to count properly. Until then, Trump gets away with whatever or there's a smoking gun.

[Redline]

5 hours ago, SheungWan said:

The electorate apparently.

I guess you no nothing about the election.  You are signaling you don’t know anything about what has been going on  ?

[Redline]

5 hours ago, SheungWan said:

 

More than the Dems in the key States which brought victory last time. Haven't seen too many leading Dems effectively standing up to his BS recently. The best one wasn't even a Democrat, namely John McCain.

I guess you have no clue how the system works.  And you don’t read details 

[billd766]

On 8/29/2018 at 6:25 PM, Peterw42 said:

I wonder if I googled this ridiculous statement by trump, if google would have it hidden ?

 

About 402,000 results (0.62 seconds) 

[mtls2005]

27 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Electorally, there is no 'popular' vote in the Presidential election.

 

No one said there was, other than in States of course.

 

Not sure why tRUmp supporters need to relive the 2016 election, get over it. He won the Electoral vote, everyone acknowledges that. That he garnered several million fewer votes seems only to stick in his craw.

[SheungWan]

11 minutes ago, Redline said:

I guess you no nothing about the election.  You are signaling you don’t know anything about what has been going on  ?

 

5 minutes ago, Redline said:

I guess you have no clue how the system works.  And you don’t read details 

Unfortunately I do.