Men-only Police Academy will ‘hamper’ probes into sex crime

[webfact]

Men-only Police Academy will ‘hamper’ probes into sex crime

By KORNRAWEE PANYASUPPAKUN 
THE NATION

 

 

RIGHTS advocates yesterday raised concerns over the Royal Thai Police’s new policy of banning female applicants from the police cadet academy, saying the move undermines women’s rights and affects the prosecution of sex crimes.
 

The women’s rights supporters said the national police office order of August 28 was backward and discriminatory. It didn’t only undermine women’s rights and violate the Gender Equality Act, but would affect victims of sex crimes since it is female police who mostly worked as interrogators in such cases, they said. 

 

In rape cases, the law requires female officers to conduct the interview to minimise the victims’ discomfort. 

 

Pol Col Chatkaew Wanchawee, a female interrogator who rose to the rank of superintendent, usually the highest a female can attain at a police station, says women investigators play a key role in questioning victims of sexual crimes. 

 

She said the law was that male policemen can deal with such cases only with the consent of the victims. 

 

With the new order to bar women from the school, the number of female policemen for such jobs would decrease, she predicted. 

 

 

Meanwhile women’s rights advocate groups said the order discriminated against female officers and would make rape and sexual assault victims suffer. 

 

“The victims are likely to be harassed by insensitive questions by male investigators, said Usa Lerdsrisuntad, director of the Foundation for Women and a member of the committee fighting against gender discrimination. 

 

“Questions about the violation – like ‘did it involve penetration?’ – are very sensitive and could induce embarrassment. 

 

“And just having a female investigator helps the victims, especially kids, feel more easily able to talk about it,” she said. 

 

The Cadet Academy, which dates back to 1901, has only been admitting female students for the last 10 years, some of whom are still there. 

 

Of 8,000 investigators in the national police office, only 400 are female. 

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30353561

 

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[Samui Bodoh]

"...RIGHTS advocates yesterday raised concerns over the Royal Thai Police’s new policy of banning female applicants from the police cadet academy, saying the move undermines women’s rights and affects the prosecution of sex crimes..."

 

The idea that it would only affect sex crimes is ludicrous; excluding women from positions within the police force will affect all crime investigation and enforcement. When a society decides to consciously exclude roughly half its population from providing meaningful input to its police forces, it is voluntarily degrading those forces of law and order.

 

The RTP cannot afford further damage to its credibility and reputation; it is already underwater. Waaaaay underwater.

 

Hey Thailand! It is 2018; perhaps you might take note that fact...

 

[Thaiwrath]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

With the new order to bar women from the school, the number of female policemen for such jobs would decrease, she predicted. 

 

Great prediction ! (More like an obvious statement).

If she is that good at predictions, maybe she knows future lottery numbers ? ?

Edited September 2, 2018 by Thaiwrath

[ChrisY1]

Archaic society!.....with misogynistic views such as this latest gem......Thailand shows how backwards they really are travelling!

[Grossman]

4 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

Hey Thailand! It is 2018; perhaps you might take note that fact...

[sammieuk1]

Everything seams to get banned here except generals and perks. There is a small island that will need more woman officers again very soon ?

[NextStationBangkok]

World is going towards different direction than Thailand.

[dutchbull]

It is now 2561 the year that Thailand starts counting backwards again instead of up

[mikebell]

Just when you think Thailand could sink no lower in the World's estimation, it contrives to shoot itself in the foot again whilst having it planted firmly in the mouth.  The males responsible for this ludicrous decision, fear the honesty & integrity of women might give the RTP a good name.

[Antonymous]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

RIGHTS advocates yesterday raised concerns over the Royal Thai Police’s new policy of banging female applicants from the police cadet academy, saying the move undermines women’s rights and affects the prosecution of sex crimes.

I'm afraid I misread the opening sentence on first reading...and wasn't at all surprised.

[JAG]

3 minutes ago, mikebell said:

Just when you think Thailand could sink no lower in the World's estimation, it contrives to shoot itself in the foot again whilst having it planted firmly in the mouth.  The males responsible for this ludicrous decision, fear the honesty & integrity of women might give the RTP a good name.

Now that is an interesting thought. I wonder if female police officers are less susceptible to the widespread fiscal irregularity some have suggested is a feature of the force. I have heard tell that the proceeds of the various " informal income streams" rumoured to be associated with policing are shared out by a sophisticated system based on rank and position, rather like prize money in Nelson's Navy. Could it be that female police officers are not (or are not to be) included?

 

Without having membership of a "Cadet Academy Class", with all that goes with it in terms of connections, networking and influence, they will be relegated to the place of mere auxiliaries.

 

It's an idea isn't it?

[Tracyb]

How can this happen?  Oh, wait.....  ya, TIT.   SMH.

[KKr]

male chauvinism.

[outsider]

Thinking with the bell-end, as usual. And moving at full speed - in reverse.

[Juan B Tong]

This ultraprogressive move is simply a recognition of the current state of affairs. 

Afterall, there is no prostitution in Thailand, no human trafficking, and rapes do not happen on Ko Tao.

So no need for ladies to become trained cops.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Juan B Tong

[yellowboat]

Today's Thai officialdom never fails to disappoint in its embracing of sheer stupidity.   One of my co-workers in Hong Kong became a police officer.  She was fantastic, and that was in 1989.    Women are probably less likely to sit around and drink in uniform.

[mok199]

men or women ,in the end ,when they are on the job its all the same ..they become lazy, useless children ,while lawless shamless,thais run this country further into the ground..

[AsiaHand]

So what is new,The government already refuses to investigate government officials or the so called "Hi-So"s in sexual related crimes.If there are a thousand more women on the force ,nothing will change.

[wvavin]

Another show of Thai men small dick syndrome!

[Vacuum]

My stepdaughter want to join to join the police, does this mean she can't?

[Purdey]

And they worry about Thailand's reputation being harmed! As if women are only good for dealing with children and sex crimes. Thailand 0.4 is on the horizon. 

[Media1]

Thousands of unreported sexual and violent crimes against woman committed by Thai men in Thailand. These so called police turn a cheek..Disgraceful humans.

[Classic Ray]

Having worked during my police career with many female officers (funny to see them called female policemen in the story!) they rose in status in the last fifty years from being merely to be called on to deal with women or children, advancing to be trained and take on command positions and serve in every operational department, including as authorised firearms officers and pursuit drivers.

 

Some were good, some not so good, just like the men.They do have an advantage in command and operational situations in being able to detach from the "macho" attitude which can affect men who think they are expected to be tough. Some of them were far better than the majority of men, and they are absolutely essential in dealing with the softer side of police work, which in the UK is certainly the majority of the task. 

 

By excluding them, Thailand is denying itself the opportunity to advance towards the situation where a woman could command the RTP as one does the UK Metropolitan Police. The days of women being confined to home raising families are long gone and their essential role in the workplace needs to be recognised not just in the police but in business as well, The glass ceiling is still firmly in place for those not able to count on the support of Daddy or a sugar daddy to push them up the ladder. 

[Media1]

6 minutes ago, Classic Ray said:

Having worked during my police career with many female officers (funny to see them called female policemen in the story!) they rose in status in the last fifty years from being merely to be called on to deal with women or children, advancing to be trained and take on command positions and serve in every operational department, including as authorised firearms officers and pursuit drivers.

 

Some were good, some not so good, just like the men.They do have an advantage in command and operational situations in being able to detach from the "macho" attitude which can affect men who think they are expected to be tough. Some of them were far better than the majority of men, and they are absolutely essential in dealing with the softer side of police work, which in the UK is certainly the majority of the task. 

 

By excluding them, Thailand is denying itself the opportunity to advance towards the situation where a woman could command the RTP as one does the UK Metropolitan Police. The days of women being confined to home raising families are long gone and their essential role in the workplace needs to be recognised not just in the police but in business as well, The glass ceiling is still firmly in place for those not able to count on the support of Daddy or a sugar daddy to push them up the ladder. 

The RTP want to protect corruption not unveil it lol. Under the current regime they will remain loan star cowboys.

A civilian government should see a complete strip down..Hopefully some audits and hefty jail terms. Send a clear message to this so called top brass.

[Esso49]

1 hour ago, dutchbull said:

It is now 2561 the year that Thailand starts counting backwards again instead of up

you mean 1652,   the year backwards,  just like the nations polcymakers

[Esso49]

32 minutes ago, wvavin said:

Another show of Thai men small dick syndrome!

It will be an advantage to the gay community

Edited September 3, 2018 by Esso49

[Media1]

4 minutes ago, Esso49 said:

you mean 1652,   the year backwards,  just like the nations polcymakers

Yes

[Esso49]

48 minutes ago, yellowboat said:

Today's Thai officialdom never fails to disappoint in its embracing of sheer stupidity.   One of my co-workers in Hong Kong became a police officer.  She was fantastic, and that was in 1989.    Women are probably less likely to sit around and drink in uniform.

But do you not think that perhaps the reasoning for this decision not to employ females is that Thai women in nearly all social arenas have a far better developed level of common sense then their male counterparts ?Thus the logic for no longer admitting women is in order for them not to show up their male counterparts as babbling babboons. ( no insult to primates intended).  Just following the Juntas example I guess.

Edited September 3, 2018 by Esso49

[DJ54]

As I’m shanking my head and asking why.........is it female officers are 

too honest? By the book?  Looking for justice not filling pockets? Lack of funds for female uniforms? They always want to drive and the male doesn’t like it.........

 

just thinking out loud....

[BobbyL]

I couldn't believe this story when I saw it yesterday.

 

Thailand is literally trying to go back to the 19th century.