Australia paper defends Serena Williams cartoon despite outrage

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[Airalee]

2 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

"Sambo," a derogatory term for a black person, is the name of a folkloric figure usually depicted with an exaggerated mouth and an ape-like stance.

The least you could do is not plagiarize your arguments.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tennis-williams-cartoon/australia-paper-defends-serena-williams-cartoon-despite-outrage-idUSKCN1LR228

 

You already lost your argument when you used the “I had a black roommate” line to try to bolster your virtue signaling.

[marcusarelus]

30 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Whoo, you shouldn't have mentioned CNN on TVF. Don't you know that it's the Devil's channel?

 

BTW. That was a comment by one contributor, not a statement of channel policy. Other contributors disagreed.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/11/opinions/serena-williams-cartoon-australia-barry/index.html

[Spidey]

12 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Your use of the story tries to transfer a name remembered in infamy by the black population in the US with a trite and pleasant little poem.  Incredible insulting (I know you can't fathom why and that's the point of this thread). 

The cartoon wasn't published by a US newspaper, it was an Australian newspaper, so by that rote, US indignation is irrelevant to the thread. so don't bring it up again! It's an Australian issue, not yours.

 

BTW. Thanks for giving Jim Who? yet another mention.

[marcusarelus]

2 hours ago, giddyup said:

Did you hope to convert her to your views? Must have made for lively conversations at the dinner table. Would have thought that her racist views would have taken her off your marriage-material list.

She is the pretty one.  First 14 years of marriage we didn't talk much.  Other things to do.

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

She is the pretty one. 

You are going to have to point her out .

[tifino]

Mark Knight sorts of pales compared to the late Bill Leak:

 i was a reading a hardcover biography on him today

 

there were more pictures, than words 

 

[sanemax]

12 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/11/opinions/serena-williams-cartoon-australia-barry/index.html

That was an opinion piece by a writer and CNN stated that the opinions are of the writer and not a CNN opinion .

   Rather strange , that the writer seems to refer to Serena as an "African"

 

 "This will change—slowly, much more slowly than in countries like the United States, with its vastly greater direct exposure to African peoples, culture and history. "

[DrTuner]

10 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

She is the pretty one.  First 14 years of marriage we didn't talk much.  Other things to do.

Nice afro she's got.

[marcusarelus]

7 minutes ago, sanemax said:

You are going to have to point her out .

She is the one when she walks in the room everyone stops talking. 

[giddyup]

1 hour ago, marcusarelus said:

No I stopped it because it was in error.  Had I not the other anti Americans would have chimed in about how Americans used more psychiatrists than Europeans. 

 

If someone posted that Australians all had tiny things and that's why the cartoon about Serena was drawn.  Would it be corrected or just let go because it would encourage further irrelevant debate?

So you get to pick and choose what's relevant and what's not?

[utalkin2me]

50 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

CNN sums it up for most, "Australia is the nicest racist country you will ever see." 

THat was a commentary piece by a single author. All of CNN did not get together and agree on and approve the contents.

 

Let me ask you something, racism involves one race stating or otherwise acting to prove another race is inferior.

 

 

Do you think this cartoonist was pointing out one race to be inferior to another?

 

Or do you simply think, and this is arguable but I am asking what you think, that the cartoonist was insensitive to racial propoganda of the past?

 

Because those are two entirely different questions. If you are answering yes to both I think you are way out of line. If you are answering yes to only the latter, I suppose it is arguable, but I still do not agree. 

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19 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

She is the pretty one.  First 14 years of marriage we didn't talk much.  Other things to do.

 

You watched Debbie Does Dallas too much, what you think of as reality is actually just a fantasy.

[giddyup]

9 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

She is the one when she walks in the room everyone stops talking. 

Well two heads is a bit of a jaw dropper.

[tifino]

I was distracted by the one with the big nose...

[marcusarelus]

7 minutes ago, giddyup said:

So you get to pick and choose what's relevant and what's not?

If I know the truth and you lie I'll correct it.  Not relevancy - truth. 

[marcusarelus]

14 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Nice afro she's got.

I bet you think that is an insult.  I was dating a black girl at the same time.  Rich girl.  Masters degree ,VP coke.  She didn't shave her legs.  Rich parents, Ivy league education but didn't shave her legs.  Always stuck me as unusual.  It's a black girl thing. 

[sanemax]

3 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

 She didn't shave her legs.  Rich parents, Ivy league education but didn't shave her legs.  Always stuck me as unusual.  It's a black girl thing. 

Its a "black girl thing" not to shave their legs !!!!!!!!!!!

That is an untrue, racist , stereotypical thing to say .

[marcusarelus]

39 minutes ago, Spidey said:

The cartoon wasn't published by a US newspaper, it was an Australian newspaper, so by that rote, US indignation is irrelevant to the thread. so don't bring it up again! It's an Australian issue, not yours.

 

BTW. Thanks for giving Jim Who? yet another mention.

Tell the OP.  It's an American story about an American written by an American writer with American quoted about American indignation.  Afraid the cat's already out of the bag. 

OP

Racism in any form is unacceptable," civil rights activist Rev. Jesse Jackson tweeted on Monday.

Knight's portrayal of Osaka as blond and light-skinned also drew criticism for being racist.

This isn't satir e - it is disgusting racist caricature," Twitter user Rose Weber wrote on Tuesday.

 The National Association of Black Journalists said the cartoon was "repugnant on many levels."

Reporting by Gabriella Borter in New York

[DrTuner]

12 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

I bet you think that is an insult.  

No you said it's the pretty one. You're not implying a black girl can't be a redneck, are you? That'd be racist.

[marcusarelus]

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

Its a "black girl thing" not to shave their legs !!!!!!!!!!!

That is an untrue, racist , stereotypical thing to say .

Blacks are more sensitive to shaving legs and face.  They also scar differently and can't use the same methods of plastic surgery as white women.  That is just medical fact like sickle cell anemia or Asian people being lactose intolerant.  It is a genetic thing. 

 

What education system taught you? 

[sanemax]

3 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Tell the OP.  It's an American story about an American written by an American writer with American quoted about American indignation.  Afraid the cat's already out of the bag. 

OP

Did you even read the article ?

The article that you posted a link too ?

It quite clearly States that the author is Australian and NOT an American 

 

"Editors note :Max Barry is an Australian writer and the author of five novels, including the political satire "Jennifer Government" and the international thriller "Lexicon." He blogs at *deleted* The views expressed are his own." 

 

 

[marcusarelus]

Just now, DrTuner said:

No you said it's the pretty one. You're not implying a black girl can't be a redneck, are you? That'd be racist.

You said the one with the afro after I said my wife was not black in an attempt to insult me.  Not everyone is a racist like you and I'd would marry a black, white or Asian with equal readiness if they were the right person.  

[marcusarelus]

4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Did you even read the article ?

The article that you posted a link too ?

It quite clearly States that the author is Australian and NOT an American 

 

"Editors note :Max Barry is an Australian writer and the author of five novels, including the political satire "Jennifer Government" and the international thriller "Lexicon." He blogs at *deleted* The views expressed are his own." 

 

 

Right you are.  Max is an Aussie.  Serena is an American

[DrTuner]

2 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

You said the one with the afro after I said my wife was not black in an attempt to insult me. 

Ah so your wife is not black? You didn't mention it before. I think I got an upper leg in the racist pissing contest since my wife is brown, ha!

[marcusarelus]

Just now, DrTuner said:

Ah so your wife is not black? You didn't mention it before. I think I got an upper leg in the racist pissing contest since my wife is brown, ha!

My wife is now Thai before I mentioned my wife is not black and you must have missed it. 

[sanemax]

5 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Blacks are more sensitive to shaving legs and face.  They also scar differently and can't use the same methods of plastic surgery as white women.  That is just medical fact like sickle cell anemia or Asian people being lactose intolerant.  It is a genetic thing. 

What education system taught you? 

Quite different to yours quite obviously .

I wasnt taught about why Black girls dont shave their legs and faces .

Which subject did you learn that in ?

Biology ?

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

My wife is now Thai before I mentioned my wife is not black and you must have missed it. 

If your black girlfriend would have shaved her legs and face , do you think that you would have married her ?

[marcusarelus]

Just now, sanemax said:

Quite different to yours quite obviously .

I wasnt taught about why Black girls dont shave their legs and faces .

Which subject did you learn that in ?

Biology ?

I went to college with black people and it was discussed in a number of classes. 

[marcusarelus]

2 minutes ago, sanemax said:

If your black girlfriend would have shaved her legs and face , do you think that you would have married her ?

I actually like women who don't shave armpits or legs.  I don't think I had enough money for the black lady to marry me.  She was a rich girl.  I don't think her parents would have signed off on me.  Not rich and not black and no PHD.