13 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Being gay, or a transgender man or woman, is not a perversion. 

Thank you,no need for me to reply to this one.

3 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Sorry. Edited my post after your reply.

It’s still not a perversion. 

Just now, Bluespunk said:

It’s still not a perversion. 

I would say that a straight guy having a predilection for ladyboys is a perversion. 

I have Thai friends  who are ladyboys,western friends with Thai boyfriends.never a issue all good people.also farang who married thais.i see them as people if they are bad you Don,t associate with them.so I Don,t put them down as everyone is trying to get with life.i will have a drink with them anytime and help them if possible and it is not about money.could be a English issue or anything else

 

1 minute ago, Spidey said:

I would say that a straight guy having a predilection for ladyboys is a perversion. 

I would question how straight he really is.

45 minutes ago, zydeco said:

Well, I can't keep up. So many of these things. Just learned that the okay sign in the US is now considered a "White Power" signal. Now, this "I" thing.

That was a 4chan troll. They do these campaigns every now and then to expose how stupid the media has become and you bet the media picked it up and ran with it.

Just now, giddyup said:

I would question how straight he really is.

I would tend to agree with you but I've talked to several guys that go with ladyboys and they all insist that they are 100% straight. That's why I class it as a perversion, they are normal heterosexuals and it's outside normal heterosexual behaviour i.e. a perversion. Same as S&M and wanting to wear a nappy and suck a dummy.

3 minutes ago, Spidey said:

I would say that a straight guy having a predilection for ladyboys is a perversion. 

I wouldn’t.

 

What sexually active,  consenting adults do behind closed doors for pleasure is nobodies business but their own. 

 

If sex for pleasure (amongst consenting adults) is a perversion, then any sex, other than that for the purpose of procreation, could be said to be perversion and nobody (beyond religious fundamentalists) really believes that any more. 

53 minutes ago, kcpattaya said:

I totally agree. I would NEVER employ a transgender. 
Call me a racist or accuse me of discrimination - so be it. NEVER. 

Why? They are very reliable for short term contract work

1 minute ago, Spidey said:

I would tend to agree with you but I've talked to several guys that go with ladyboys and they all insist that they are 100% straight. That's why I class it as a perversion, they are normal heterosexuals and it's outside normal heterosexual behaviour i.e. a perversion. Same as S&M and wanting to wear a nappy and suck a dummy.

If the ladyboy still has male genitalia I don't know how it could be classed any different than a gay liaison.

Just now, Bluespunk said:

I wouldn’t.

 

What sexually active,  consenting adults do behind closed doors for pleasure is nobodies business but their own. 

 

If sex for pleasure (amongst consenting adults) is a perversion, then any sex, other than that for the purpose of procreation, could be said to be perversion and nobody (beyond religious fundamentalists) really believes that any more. 

I didn't say that there's anything wrong with having a perversion, most of us have perversions of one form or another.

 

Mine is...………….

4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

I wouldn’t.

 

What sexually active,  consenting adults do behind closed doors for pleasure is nobodies business but their own. 

 

If sex for pleasure (amongst consenting adults) is a perversion, then any sex, other than that for the purpose of procreation, could be said to be perversion and nobody (beyond religious fundamentalists) really believes that any more. 

perversion:sexual behavior or desire that is considered abnormal or unacceptable.

32 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Being gay, or a transgender man or woman, is not a perversion. 

God says differently (in all his incarnations).

1 minute ago, Spidey said:

I didn't say that there's anything wrong with having a perversion, most of us have perversions of one form or another.

 

Mine is...………….

Calling someone’s identity or sexual preference a perversion is saying something it is wrong...

6 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

What sexually active,  consenting adults do behind closed doors for pleasure is nobodies business but their own. 

But that isn't what this thread is about.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

God says differently (in all his incarnations).

There is no god. 

1 hour ago, zydeco said:

LGBTQ

I know Intersex, it's opposite of Outersex; but what does Q stand for? Nothing queer, I hope! Lol

2 minutes ago, giddyup said:

perversion:sexual behavior or desire that is considered abnormal or unacceptable.

I dispute that process of consideration’s legitimacy. 

Just now, Bluespunk said:

Calling someone’s identity or sexual preference a perversion is saying something it is wrong...

Nope. You're getting hung up on the word, it doesn't have to be pejorative.

1 minute ago, BritManToo said:

But that isn't what this thread is about.

It is what the poster said though. 

Just now, Spidey said:

Nope. You're getting hung up on the word, it doesn't have to be pejorative.

Word choices matter. 

Edited September 17, 20187 yr by Bluespunk

2 minutes ago, Spidey said:

I would tend to agree with you but I've talked to several guys that go with ladyboys and they all insist that they are 100% straight. That's why I class it as a perversion, they are normal heterosexuals and it's outside normal heterosexual behaviour i.e. a perversion. Same as S&M and wanting to wear a nappy and suck a dummy.

Even John Wayne's not 100% straight is he, whatever that means. He certainly doesn't Walk That Way.

 

As for "normal sexual behaviour", you mean penis-vaginal penetration in the missionary position I assume.

 

Nappies and dummies were raised by you. They say something about you. They are completely unconnected to this thread.

 

The only perversion I see going on here is your perversion of logic.

Just now, Bluespunk said:

I dispute that process of consideration’s legitimacy. 

Dictionary meaning. Don't shoot the messenger.

1 minute ago, giddyup said:

Dictionary meaning. Don't shoot the messenger.

I’m not, I’m shooting the message. 

The problem isn't the ladyboys, it's the guys who have a ladyboy element in them.

1 hour ago, zydeco said:

LGBTI? Have heard of LGBTQ, but the "I" on the end of it is new to me. "Intersex?" What does that mean?

Its those with physical biological differences. Previously the word hermaphrodite was used to describe people who have sexual characteristics that are both male and female, but today many people prefer to use the word intersex. It was considered offensive, not sure why.

 

2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Word choices matter. 

Exactly. I didn't choose it pejoratively.

Just now, Spidey said:

Exactly. I didn't choose it pejoratively.

 The word “perversion” has wholly negative connotations. 

4 minutes ago, My Thai Life said:

Even John Wayne's not 100% straight is he, whatever that means. He certainly doesn't Walk That Way.

 

As for "normal sexual behaviour", you mean penis-vaginal penetration in the missionary position I assume.

 

Nappies and dummies were raised by you. They say something about you. They are completely unconnected to this thread.

 

The only perversion I see going on here is your perversion of logic.

Heterosexual sex. Sex between 2 adults of the opposite sex.

 

What does "nappies and dummies say about me?

Just now, Bluespunk said:

 The word “perversion” has wholly negative connotations. 

To you. Not to me or a dictionary.