jvs Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Being gay, or a transgender man or woman, is not a perversion. Thank you,no need for me to reply to this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Spidey said: Sorry. Edited my post after your reply. It’s still not a perversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, Bluespunk said: It’s still not a perversion. I would say that a straight guy having a predilection for ladyboys is a perversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolgeoff Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 I have Thai friends who are ladyboys,western friends with Thai boyfriends.never a issue all good people.also farang who married thais.i see them as people if they are bad you Don,t associate with them.so I Don,t put them down as everyone is trying to get with life.i will have a drink with them anytime and help them if possible and it is not about money.could be a English issue or anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Spidey said: I would say that a straight guy having a predilection for ladyboys is a perversion. I would question how straight he really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirasan Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 45 minutes ago, zydeco said: Well, I can't keep up. So many of these things. Just learned that the okay sign in the US is now considered a "White Power" signal. Now, this "I" thing. That was a 4chan troll. They do these campaigns every now and then to expose how stupid the media has become and you bet the media picked it up and ran with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, giddyup said: I would question how straight he really is. I would tend to agree with you but I've talked to several guys that go with ladyboys and they all insist that they are 100% straight. That's why I class it as a perversion, they are normal heterosexuals and it's outside normal heterosexual behaviour i.e. a perversion. Same as S&M and wanting to wear a nappy and suck a dummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Spidey said: I would say that a straight guy having a predilection for ladyboys is a perversion. I wouldn’t. What sexually active, consenting adults do behind closed doors for pleasure is nobodies business but their own. If sex for pleasure (amongst consenting adults) is a perversion, then any sex, other than that for the purpose of procreation, could be said to be perversion and nobody (beyond religious fundamentalists) really believes that any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranky Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 53 minutes ago, kcpattaya said: I totally agree. I would NEVER employ a transgender. Call me a racist or accuse me of discrimination - so be it. NEVER. Why? They are very reliable for short term contract work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Spidey said: I would tend to agree with you but I've talked to several guys that go with ladyboys and they all insist that they are 100% straight. That's why I class it as a perversion, they are normal heterosexuals and it's outside normal heterosexual behaviour i.e. a perversion. Same as S&M and wanting to wear a nappy and suck a dummy. If the ladyboy still has male genitalia I don't know how it could be classed any different than a gay liaison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, Bluespunk said: I wouldn’t. What sexually active, consenting adults do behind closed doors for pleasure is nobodies business but their own. If sex for pleasure (amongst consenting adults) is a perversion, then any sex, other than that for the purpose of procreation, could be said to be perversion and nobody (beyond religious fundamentalists) really believes that any more. I didn't say that there's anything wrong with having a perversion, most of us have perversions of one form or another. Mine is...…………. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: I wouldn’t. What sexually active, consenting adults do behind closed doors for pleasure is nobodies business but their own. If sex for pleasure (amongst consenting adults) is a perversion, then any sex, other than that for the purpose of procreation, could be said to be perversion and nobody (beyond religious fundamentalists) really believes that any more. perversion:sexual behavior or desire that is considered abnormal or unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 32 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Being gay, or a transgender man or woman, is not a perversion. God says differently (in all his incarnations). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Spidey said: I didn't say that there's anything wrong with having a perversion, most of us have perversions of one form or another. Mine is...…………. Calling someone’s identity or sexual preference a perversion is saying something it is wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: What sexually active, consenting adults do behind closed doors for pleasure is nobodies business but their own. But that isn't what this thread is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, BritManToo said: God says differently (in all his incarnations). There is no god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, zydeco said: LGBTQ I know Intersex, it's opposite of Outersex; but what does Q stand for? Nothing queer, I hope! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, giddyup said: perversion:sexual behavior or desire that is considered abnormal or unacceptable. I dispute that process of consideration’s legitimacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, Bluespunk said: Calling someone’s identity or sexual preference a perversion is saying something it is wrong... Nope. You're getting hung up on the word, it doesn't have to be pejorative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, BritManToo said: But that isn't what this thread is about. It is what the poster said though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, Spidey said: Nope. You're getting hung up on the word, it doesn't have to be pejorative. Word choices matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Thai Life Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Spidey said: I would tend to agree with you but I've talked to several guys that go with ladyboys and they all insist that they are 100% straight. That's why I class it as a perversion, they are normal heterosexuals and it's outside normal heterosexual behaviour i.e. a perversion. Same as S&M and wanting to wear a nappy and suck a dummy. Even John Wayne's not 100% straight is he, whatever that means. He certainly doesn't Walk That Way. As for "normal sexual behaviour", you mean penis-vaginal penetration in the missionary position I assume. Nappies and dummies were raised by you. They say something about you. They are completely unconnected to this thread. The only perversion I see going on here is your perversion of logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, Bluespunk said: I dispute that process of consideration’s legitimacy. Dictionary meaning. Don't shoot the messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, giddyup said: Dictionary meaning. Don't shoot the messenger. I’m not, I’m shooting the message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 The problem isn't the ladyboys, it's the guys who have a ladyboy element in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradewind777 Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, zydeco said: LGBTI? Have heard of LGBTQ, but the "I" on the end of it is new to me. "Intersex?" What does that mean? Its those with physical biological differences. Previously the word hermaphrodite was used to describe people who have sexual characteristics that are both male and female, but today many people prefer to use the word intersex. It was considered offensive, not sure why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Word choices matter. Exactly. I didn't choose it pejoratively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, Spidey said: Exactly. I didn't choose it pejoratively. The word “perversion” has wholly negative connotations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, My Thai Life said: Even John Wayne's not 100% straight is he, whatever that means. He certainly doesn't Walk That Way. As for "normal sexual behaviour", you mean penis-vaginal penetration in the missionary position I assume. Nappies and dummies were raised by you. They say something about you. They are completely unconnected to this thread. The only perversion I see going on here is your perversion of logic. Heterosexual sex. Sex between 2 adults of the opposite sex. What does "nappies and dummies say about me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, Bluespunk said: The word “perversion” has wholly negative connotations. To you. Not to me or a dictionary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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