webfact Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Koh Tao and its mountain of garbage awaiting disposal Local administration officials on the popular resort island of Koh Tao have heaved a big sigh of relief after a municipality in Poonpin district of Surat Thani province has agreed to accept 45,000 tonnes of garbage from the island for disposal. About 50,000 tonnes of garbage have been left on the compound of a garbage disposal plant on the island and the amount is increasing by about 30 tonnes each day. Worse still, the only incinerator has not been working for quite some time. Lately, Advance Alliance Logistics has won the contract to dispose the mountain of garbage by having them compressed and packed in small packs, shipped to the mainland in Surat Thani and then transported by trucks to a clean power generating factory in Khon Kaen to be burned as fuel. Full story: http://www.thaipbsworld.com/koh-tao-and-its-mountain-of-garbage-awaiting-disposal/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-09-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 To Khon Kaen? Is there not one closer to koh tsao? 45.000 ton of plastic, how many trucks full is that? 10 ton in a truck means 4500 trucks driving 800 km to burn some plastic? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FinChin67 Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 When I read the headline "Koh Tao and its mountain of garbage awaiting disposal" I thought of the local mafia and "police" but seems I celebrated too early. 8 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Thian said: To Khon Kaen? Is there not one closer to koh tsao? 45.000 ton of plastic, how many trucks full is that? 10 ton in a truck means 4500 trucks driving 800 km to burn some plastic? That is absolutely crazy! what a waste of fuel, not to mention the pollution caused by thousands(?) of trucks. It would be easier to bury it under the huge pile of BS generated by the RTP whenever a crime is committed erroneously reported. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nikmar Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 About 50,000 tonnes of garbage have been left on the compound... wonder if theres any bodies in there. ? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trainman34014 Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 Hope the garbage includes the Mafia Families controlling 'Murder Island' ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cadbury Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, webfact said: Worse still, the only incinerator has not been working for quite some time. Thai incinerators are designed not to work. For confirmation check with Koh Samui residents. The incinerator there has not worked for about 10 years and the garbage must be over 250,000 tonnes. How many generations before Thailand itself becomes one huge rubbish dump. Then see how many tourists come. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vacuum Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, Cadbury said: How many generations before Thailand itself becomes one huge rubbish dump. Generations! It's already a dump. Garbage and building materials are dumped everywhere, just to save a few baht. Disgusting! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Moti24 Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 Why a picture of the beach! When I read the headline, I expected to see a picture of the garbage! But then, I suppose that would tarnish the island's good reputation. 5 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 20 hours ago, webfact said: shipped to the mainland in Surat Thani and then transported by trucks to a clean power generating factory in Khon Kaen wonder how much of the transport will be done by black fume belching monstrosities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 20 hours ago, webfact said: Koh Tao and its mountain of garbage awaiting disposal Good riddance to both. ? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robertson468 Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 If Koh Samui has about 250,000 tons of rubbish and Koh Tao about 50,000 tons, It clearly does not make sense to transport it by Ferry and road to an incinerator on the mainland. The Government would do well to fund an incinerator on Samui, who couls then take in all the rubbish from the smaller Island around it, rather than waste money buying things like submarines et al. Tourism makes one of the biggest contribution to the GDP.............oh, I forgot, disposing of rubbish does not provide a lucrative income for those feeding from the trough! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) 21 hours ago, Thian said: To Khon Kaen? Is there not one closer to koh tsao? 45.000 ton of plastic, how many trucks full is that? 10 ton in a truck means 4500 trucks driving 800 km to burn some plastic? You actually believe any of it is going to make the entire 800km trip? When there are so many empty stretches of highway (Well, empty in the sense that there are few witnesses. Not empty with respect to the piles of trash already there) where a few thousand tons of trash will hardly make an impact on the trash already dumped there. Edited September 22, 2018 by impulse 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, RichardColeman said: wonder how much of the transport will be done by black fume belching monstrosities I doubt any will go by bicycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallander4 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Koh Tao is purely garbage and that goes for the people on Murder Island and the idiots visiting that disgusting place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 A post containing overly derogatory troll comments has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobobo Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 22 hours ago, nikmar said: About 50,000 tonnes of garbage have been left on the compound... wonder if theres any bodies in there. ? I think it's not if but rather how many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 They have tried installing the incinerators on many islands but after about one year they cannot be bothered keeping them in working order & are just left standing idle. One that I know of was a state of the art from France 10 years ago, been sitting idle for over 8 years & on checking by the manufacturer the gas bottle for pre ignition had run out. Took the guy who had flown from France 20 minutes to get it back on line I am not a Thai basher but this one is very Thai 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Compared to Koh Samui as far as tons garbage is concerned Koh Tao is an amateur Pffffff "About 50,000 tonnes of garbage have been left on the compound of a garbage disposal plant on the island " 555... Ridiculous, they play in the yard of the little ones, in Samui two years ago we had 250 000 tons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Moti24 said: Why a picture of the beach! When I read the headline, I expected to see a picture of the garbage! But then, I suppose that would tarnish the island's good reputation. My pleasure Sir 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) Khon Kaen has a "clean power" generating plant that burns unsorted/misc garbage for fuel???? https://www.aecen.org/index.php/stories/khon-kaen-plans-power-plant-munch-trash-mountains No date on this article that I can see. But considering KK supposedly had 800,000 tons of accumulated garbage, that plant seemingly was going to be booked for a good long while. Quote Pointing out that his Northeast province was among the country's top 10 for total accumulated garbage, Theerasak said the city's 98-rai dump in Ban Kham Bon, Muang district, now contained 800,000 tonnes of rubbish. .... The second long-term solution, a power station to turn garbage into electricity, is waiting to be granted permission to begin construction next month and should be completed by early next year. The power plant is designed to dispose of 450 tonnes of garbage per day - 250 tonnes of which would be new garbage. Operating at this rate, the plant should be able to get rid the backlog of garbage within seven years, said Theerasak. The dumpsite would then be turned into a green recreational space for the local community, he added. As best as I understand it, burning garbage is an actually clean environmental manner is no easy task that requires a high level of technology and maintenance. Two elements that I seriously doubt are present in the current government-run refuse disposal industry in Thailand. I wouldn't want to live anywhere in the vicinity of one of these Thai government run incinerator plants. Edited September 22, 2018 by TallGuyJohninBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) Quote Thailand becoming ‘garbage bin of world’ national June 11, 2018 04:00 By PRATCH RUJIVANAROM THE NATION Waste policies encourage wrong choices; reducing, reusing and recycling should come first, say environmentalists. Quote “Waste-to-energy is one of the most polluting methods for both waste management and power generation, because not only will burning garbage emit toxic pollutants, but the leftover ashes are also very hazardous and require very careful disposal in a secured landfill. And so building many small waste-to-energy plants is a very bad decision,” Penchom said. Quote As of the end of 2017, the Alternative Energy Development and Efficiency Department reported that there were 15 waste-to-energy plants operating – both biogas plants and waste incinerators – and generating a total 42.82 megawatts of electricity. Nine of these waste-to-energy plants in Bangkok, Phuket, Samut Prakan, Tak, Saraburi, and Khon Kaen are waste incinerators operated by private companies. Lack of waste segregation was another big problem that needed addressing to properly operate a waste-to-energy plant in Thailand, Penchom said. The waste-to-energy plants in Hat Yai and Phuket, were burning all kinds of garbage for power, without segregation to pull out less flammable materials, thus causing serious environmental problems and also damaging the operational system of the plants, she said. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30347404 Edited September 22, 2018 by TallGuyJohninBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLW Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 They have tried installing the incinerators on many islands but after about one year they cannot be bothered keeping them in working order & are just left standing idle. One that I know of was a state of the art from France 10 years ago, been sitting idle for over 8 years & on checking by the manufacturer the gas bottle for pre ignition had run out. Took the guy who had flown from France 20 minutes to get it back on line I am not a Thai basher but this one is very ThaiStandard reaction. If something broken, don't bother to repair it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmynewbie Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Tchooptip said: Compared to Koh Samui as far as tons garbage is concerned Koh Tao is an amateur Pffffff "About 50,000 tonnes of garbage have been left on the compound of a garbage disposal plant on the island " 555... Ridiculous, they play in the yard of the little ones, in Samui two years ago we had 250 000 tons Considering Samui is ten times bigger not ridiculous at all 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy chappie Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 The admin officials are having it right off.first they plunder the funds to run and repair the incinerator,then they call for funds to contract out the transport of the waste so getting another bonus.they must be laughing all the way to the bank.no wonder most Thais would give their right arm for a government job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Deerhunter Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 11 hours ago, RichardColeman said: wonder how much of the transport will be done by black fume belching monstrosities And they worry about the food miles on out-of-season cucumbers in London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 20 hours ago, jimmynewbie said: Considering Samui is ten times bigger not ridiculous at all 555 "Koh Tao is an amateur"Pffff ....+ "They play in the yards of the little ones" I love when people seem to answer seriously to what was obviously not a serious post at all. OK I will do the same: Sorry Sir but Koh Tao is 21 square kilometres and Koh Samui 228.7 square kilometres so only eleven times bigger! So stop lying to people when it suits you This time I'm serious. Not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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