rooster59 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Iran will defeat Trump just like it did Saddam, won't abandon missiles -Rouhani Iran's President Hassan Rouhani attends a news conference at the Chancellery in Vienna, Austria July 4, 2018. REUTERS/Lisi Niesner/Files DUBAI (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump will fail in his confrontation with Iran, just like Iraq's Saddam Hussein, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said on Saturday, referring to the war between the two Middle Eastern powers and vowing that Tehran will not abandon its missiles. Tensions have ramped up between Iran and the United States after Trump withdrew from a landmark multilateral nuclear deal in May and reimposed sanctions on the Islamic Republic last month. As Rouhani spoke, Iran began displaying its naval power in the Gulf during annual parades in the capital Tehran and the port of Bandar Abbas on the Gulf marking the start of the country’s 1980-88 war with Iraq. Iran has suggested in recent weeks that it could take military action in the Gulf to block other countries’ oil exports in retaliation for U.S. sanctions intended to halt its sales of crude. Washington maintains a fleet in the Gulf that protects oil shipping routes. "The same will happen to Trump. America will suffer the same fate as Saddam Hussein," Rouhani said in a speech carried live by state television. "Iran will not abandon its defensive weapons ... including its missiles that make America so angry," Rouhani said. State media said about 600 vessels took part in the Gulf naval drill on Saturday, a day after Iran held aerial exercises in the waterway, vowing that a "pounding reply" awaited the country's enemies. -- © Copyright Reuters 2018-09-22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post impulse Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 As I recall, that's a lot like what Saddam said just before they chased him into a spider hole... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, impulse said: As I recall, that's a lot like what Saddam said just before they chased him into a spider hole... True, However, I also thought Iraq came off better in the Iran-Iraq war? Whatever, they will have their work cut out well and truly if they take on the West. Edited September 22, 2018 by Scouse123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kiwiken Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 If the US and Iran clash militarily do you think it will just remain local? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scouse123 Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Kiwiken said: If the US and Iran clash militarily do you think it will just remain local? ' Nope, Not a chance of that. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sebastion Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 If the US and Iran clash militarily do you think it will just remain local?This is what Israel has been preparing for. They will play a covert role in destabilising things. Sent from my EVA-L19 using Tapatalk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 51 minutes ago, Scouse123 said: 1 hour ago, impulse said: As I recall, that's a lot like what Saddam said just before they chased him into a spider hole... True, However, I also thought Iraq came off better in the Iran-Iraq war? Whatever, they will have their work cut out well and truly if they take on the West. There are a zillion reasons why it would be stupid to attack Iran. Military might isn't one of them. Or, at least it's in the bottom 5% of those zillion reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BestB Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 Got to love Iranian bravado . Firstly I would not call 8 year war as winning Secondly it took US a few days to take out Iraq army, so whatever made him think he can defeat US which defeated an army in days that they could not in 8 years 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guest879 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 send in some cruise missiles. surely Iran is a more juicy target than Syria to expend some ordinance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 .....what they are going to shave his head and make him walk backwards.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I give them 5 days or less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Esso49 Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, guest879 said: send in some cruise missiles. surely Iran is a more juicy target than Syria to expend some ordinance. Possibly and a lot more innocent civilians for them to target as "collateral damage" 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, Esso49 said: Possibly and a lot more innocent civilians for them to target as "collateral damage" Oh what a silly comment 555555. Silly silly silly 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post guest879 Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Esso49 said: Possibly and a lot more innocent civilians for them to target as "collateral damage" the American military industrial complex cares nothing about innocent civilians. Obama (Nobel peace prize winner) extended the drone program to 7 countries (that we know of). they fly 24 hours a days killing at will. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 That's why the western World should switch as soon and as much as possible to alternatives of fossil oil and gas. A LOT cheaper, and less own damage when oil revenu bring the Ayatollays, Maduro, Putin and the Sheiks on their knees ( = regime change) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyezhov Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 11 minutes ago, puipuitom said: That's why the western World should switch as soon and as much as possible to alternatives of fossil oil and gas. A LOT cheaper, and less own damage when oil revenu bring the Ayatollays, Maduro, Putin and the Sheiks on their knees ( = regime change) Thats why we have Drill baby drill ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 You won’t stop missiles, they won’t stop sanctions. Good luck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 If I was Iran I would be very carefull Donald is looking for a life ring aka major distraction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 5 hours ago, impulse said: As I recall, that's a lot like what Saddam said just before they chased him into a spider hole... The situation was quite different. Saddam's regime was not supported by his people. His regime was clerical, while actually dominated by Sunni muslims, and the Shia majority of the population was against him. If the US attacks Iran, it will be a holy war for Shia Muslims. On top of it, the Shia religion has been build on the concept of martyrdom, so many guys are ready to die for their religion, like Ali and Hussein did in the past. Of course, the USA could technically win the war as they have the power to destroy most heavy weaponry. But then it will become like Afghanistan at 10x scale, with candidates for martyrdom at every street's corner. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, Esso49 said: And you think for one moment they are concerned what the US can do ? Doubt it even with the US allies, Isrealis looking for a bloodbath. They should look over their shoulder with Russia already in Syria with an intelligent Commander in Chief, rather than a womanising buffoon. Russia is not a friend of Iran and would be in no hurry to assist besides selling outdated weaponry. Syria is another matter as Russia has a base there . Eliminating or hurting another oil supplier only benefits Russia ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, candide said: The situation was quite different. Saddam's regime was not supported by his people. His regime was clerical, while actually dominated by Sunni muslims, and the Shia majority of the population was against him. If the US attacks Iran, it will be a holy war for Shia Muslims. On top of it, the Shia religion has been build on the concept of martyrdom, so many guys are ready to die for their religion, like Ali and Hussein did in the past. Of course, the USA could technically win the war as they have the power to destroy most heavy weaponry. But then it will become like Afghanistan at 10x scale, with candidates for martyrdom at every street's corner. Is that why so many Iranians run away from Iran or often hold anti gov rallies which of course get squashed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyinNE Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 As a former Naval Aviator I can assure you that the Navy Pilots on the carriers off of Iran would love this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Just now, HappyinNE said: As a former Naval Aviator I can assure you that the Navy Pilots on the carriers off of Iran would love this. Maybe not too much if they got shot down, and possibly their relatives would like it even less 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 A post containing an animated profane gesture has been removed as well as the replies: 8.) You will not post disruptive or inflammatory messages, vulgarities, obscenities or profanities. Some other off topic posts and replies were removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) a few months ago I met an old ex-pilot. He was an F4-E 'knuck' and except for the accent he reflected just what you expect to hear from a Vietnam pilot... He was of the Pre-Revol.Islamic Guad genre (worked under the Shah) he was a 'club' memebr of the numbers of dudes who lived thru Ejecting out of a Phantom at low level they made 'em tough back in those good old bad old days Edited September 22, 2018 by tifino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Kiwiken said: If the US and Iran clash militarily do you think it will just remain local? Nah. The Israelis will be in there quicker than flies on a t*rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, billd766 said: Nah. The Israelis will be in there quicker than flies on a t*rd. And you know this how exactly ? Or another poor attempt at being funny? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyinNE Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, candide said: The situation was quite different. Saddam's regime was not supported by his people. His regime was clerical, while actually dominated by Sunni muslims, and the Shia majority of the population was against him. If the US attacks Iran, it will be a holy war for Shia Muslims. On top of it, the Shia religion has been build on the concept of martyrdom, so many guys are ready to die for their religion, like Ali and Hussein did in the past. Of course, the USA could technically win the war as they have the power to destroy most heavy weaponry. But then it will become like Afghanistan at 10x scale, with candidates for martyrdom at every street's corner. It will be like Afghanistan if the US is stupid enough to invade. Bomb the hell out of them and then let them figure out how to recover on their own. The US keeps being dumb trying to establish "democracies" in these countries. Just wipe out their military and leave. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 5 hours ago, BestB said: Is that why so many Iranians run away from Iran or often hold anti gov rallies which of course get squashed. Still, they go praying 5 times a day. Nothing's better than a holy war to reunite people. Don't forget that's how they were able to repell the Iraki invasion. Despite the fact that Saddam was supported by the USA, France, and most arab states (i.e. Saudi Arabia, the Emirates...), while Iran was isolated. They were able to resist mainly because they were more ready to die than the Irakis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, HappyinNE said: It will be like Afghanistan if the US is stupid enough to invade. Bomb the hell out of them and then let them figure out how to recover on their own. The US keeps being dumb trying to establish "democracies" in these countries. Just wipe out their military and leave. It was even more dumb (or hypocritical) as there were no weapons of mass destruction and Irak had not been at all involved in the Twin Towers attack, while Saudi Arabia was. Edited September 22, 2018 by candide 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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