Idiots guide to Non O for marriage

[youngster30uk]

Clearly, there are a lot of idiot farang in Thailand ( like myself) who need a guide for applying for a Non O for marriage. Can anyone point to me a previous discussion that  has a full step by step guide?

 

 

I am British and want to apply for Non O then get it extended for married, based on income

 

I previously had the understanding that I would need to prove my income at the point I go to thai immigration to get the visa extended. But now I am hearing I need to prove my income when I make the Non O application

 

can someone please explain;

 

Exactly what Do I need to do/ take with me when I make the Non O application

 

Are there any preferred countries/ embassies preferred/ recommended for obtaining Non O

 

I read somewhere that there are multiple pages to a marriage certificate that are required? I only have 2 copies of a flowery certificate. Is this correct?

 

Has anyone had experience of obtaining proof of income from the British Embassy via the email/ postal service recently?

 

Its getting very tiring hearing from every Thai that I speak to that says I cant do this myself

 

 

[ubonjoe]

At many embassies and consulates you do not need any financial proof to apply for a single entry non-o visa based upon marriage. Vientiane and Savannakhet Laos do not ask for it.

If you applied for a 90 day non immigrant visa at immigration you would need to prove your income. Requirements are here: https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_79

You will be applying for a one year extension of stay based (it is not a visa) upon marriage during the last 30 days of the 90 day entry from the non-o visa.

When you apply for the extension you will need your marriage certificate and a Kor Ror 2 marriage registry. The Kor Ror 2 is 3 or 4 printed sheets of A4 paper showing your names and other info including the names of the witnesses of your marriage registration. You can get one at any Amphoe for a fee of 20 baht.

Here is my list general list of required documents and etc for the extension application. Marriage Extension Requirements 2.pdf

 

[youngster30uk]

Thanks Joe, (again)

 

In regards to my wifes house book. We live in a rented apartment on a 1 year contract that is in my name.  

 

Maybe I'm overly nervous about this. But I want to cover all my bases. So probably Vientienne looks likely, does it make any difference if I take my Thai wife with me incase of any issues?

 

In regards to embassies. Penang is the easiest, I am in Phuket, so many many visa runs to Penang, But I would prefer to not do visa run bus. This means flying, so apart from Laos, any other good options? If I am going to fly, then anywhere within a 2 hour flight doesnt make any difference to me except cost.

 

[ubonjoe]

25 minutes ago, youngster30uk said:

n regards to my wifes house book. We live in a rented apartment on a 1 year contract that is in my name.  

 

Your wife house book registry does not have to be for where you living. It is just for proof she is registered in one.

 

26 minutes ago, youngster30uk said:

Maybe I'm overly nervous about this. But I want to cover all my bases. So probably Vientienne looks likely, does it make any difference if I take my Thai wife with me incase of any issues?

No problem to have your wife with you. If not you need of have her sign the copies of her house book registry and ID copies.

26 minutes ago, youngster30uk said:

In regards to embassies. Penang is the easiest, I am in Phuket, so many many visa runs to Penang, But I would prefer to not do visa run bus. This means flying, so apart from Laos, any other good options? If I am going to fly, then anywhere within a 2 hour flight doesnt make any difference to me except cost.

Penang is OK but you will need to have the income letter with you. Just make a copy of it for the application and have the original to show it if needed. Immigration will accept a income letter that is up to 6 months old.

[JackThompson]

14 hours ago, youngster30uk said:

This means flying, so apart from Laos, any other good options?

HCMC Vietnam is one you could fly to.  I have seen several reports of success there. In addition to what is required at Savannakhet, they also want a letter from your wife requesting the visa.  No financials.

[Nong Khai Man]

Youngster30UK.......IF You are already LEGALLY Married SAVANAKHET,Laos is by far the best destination for you IMHO,(No Need to Show ANY Funds in Thai Bank ) All you'll Need to take with you is The ORIGINAL ( Flowery...Ha ! Ha ! ) Certificate + A Copy of Same,Copy Wifes Thai ID Card,+ Housebook  + Copy,....( BOTH Of them SIGNED By you're Wife )YOU'RE Passport & 5,000 Baht Visa Fee for which You will receive a MULTIPLE Entry ( Non-Imm " O " ) WHICH YOU CAN JUST SHORT OF 15 MONTHS OUT OF WITH LEAVING THE COUNTRY EVERY 90 Days or LESS !!

 

Must put Docs. in BEFORE 11.30AM & You pick up you're Passport the NEXT Day After 2.00pm..........

[youngster30uk]

1 hour ago, Nong Khai Man said:

Youngster30UK.......IF You are already LEGALLY Married SAVANAKHET,Laos is by far the best destination for you IMHO,(No Need to Show ANY Funds in Thai Bank ) All you'll Need to take with you is The ORIGINAL ( Flowery...Ha ! Ha ! ) Certificate + A Copy of Same,Copy Wifes Thai ID Card,+ Housebook  + Copy,....( BOTH Of them SIGNED By you're Wife )YOU'RE Passport & 5,000 Baht Visa Fee for which You will receive a MULTIPLE Entry ( Non-Imm " O " ) WHICH YOU CAN JUST SHORT OF 15 MONTHS OUT OF WITH LEAVING THE COUNTRY EVERY 90 Days or LESS !!

 

Must put Docs. in BEFORE 11.30AM & You pick up you're Passport the NEXT Day After 2.00pm..........

Seemed like a good option until I looked up flights

 

Its a pain in the ass to get there from Phuket. All flight routes tell me at least 2 stops. The cheapest quickest is 10k baht and 6 hours. It just a lot easier to fly to Udon and take the bus from there.

 

Why would you recommend Savanakhet over Vientianne? are they not the same requirements?

 

thanks

 

 

 

[ubonjoe]

30 minutes ago, youngster30uk said:

Why would you recommend Savanakhet over Vientianne? are they not the same requirements?

Because he thinks you want a multiple entry non-o. Vientiane does not issue them.

[Number 6]

I did my visa 5-6 years ago in Savanakhet, it was very easy. Extension $$$ in Bangkok, first had minor hiccup but rest have sailed through. 15 minutes last year.

 

I think proof of income for extension is another layer of paperwork. I'd never recommend doing this anywhere outside Bangkok, immigration just to random.

[Russell17au]

I did my marriage extension in Khon Kaen last November and Ubonjoes list is very close to what was needed with the following differences.

The map of where you live had to be a hand drawn map and not a printed Google Earth map.

My Kor Ror 2 was only 6 weeks old and it was rejected and I needed to get a new one from the Amphur office.

My wife had to be with me because she was interviewed by the investigation officer

We had to supply 2 witnesses to be interviewed to assure immigration that our marriage was not a scam marriage.

The photo's: you need 1 photo of the pair of you outside the house showing the house number and the rest of the photo's inside but only in 1 of the inside photo's can you wear the same clothes as the outside photo. This is so that the photo's are taken on different days in the house.

The immigration officer visited our house and took extra photo's and talked to the neighbours.

My suggestion as per the income letter from the Embassy and your Kor Ror 2 would be to get these within about 2 weeks of you wanting to apply for your extension on the basis of marriage, that way they are current.

Good Luck

[SteveK]

I got my Non-O at Savannakhet a few weeks ago. Super easy, no problems at all!

[Nong Khai Man]

On 10/6/2018 at 12:26 PM, youngster30uk said:

Seemed like a good option until I looked up flights

 

Its a pain in the ass to get there from Phuket. All flight routes tell me at least 2 stops. The cheapest quickest is 10k baht and 6 hours. It just a lot easier to fly to Udon and take the bus from there.

 

Why would you recommend Savanakhet over Vientianne? are they not the same requirements?

 

thanks

 

 

 

See Ubonjoes Answer just BELOW You're Post.....

[sandyf]

On 10/6/2018 at 12:26 PM, youngster30uk said:

Seemed like a good option until I looked up flights

 

Its a pain in the ass to get there from Phuket. All flight routes tell me at least 2 stops. The cheapest quickest is 10k baht and 6 hours. It just a lot easier to fly to Udon and take the bus from there.

 

Why would you recommend Savanakhet over Vientianne? are they not the same requirements?

 

thanks

 

 

 

"Has anyone had experience of obtaining proof of income from the British Embassy via the email/ postal service recently"

I just did it by email, no problem, only thing is you need a credit card to do it by email. Got it back 9 days after sending the email.

 

There is a lot of discussion over the marriage extension as the requirements tend to vary a bit. I did my first 6 years here on a multi Non O and used to enjoy the trips out, if you are happy with that then you could save yourself a lot of hassle.

I was forced into doing a marriage extension in 2014 to make use of the 30 day period but abandoned that the following year in favour of retirement. I have often thought about going back to the Non O but we are getting older and my wife is not so keen on it as she once was.

 

[youngster30uk]

On 10/6/2018 at 10:40 AM, Nong Khai Man said:

All you'll Need to take with you is The ORIGINAL ( Flowery...Ha ! Ha ! ) Certificate + A Copy of Same,Copy Wifes Thai ID Card,+ Housebook  + Copy,....( BOTH Of them SIGNED By you're Wife )YOU'RE Passport & 5,000 Baht Visa Fee for

I need my wifes original housebook and a copy?

 

[ubonjoe]

4 minutes ago, youngster30uk said:

I need my wifes original housebook and a copy?

No

You only need a copy of her house book registry and ID card signed by her. You do need the original of your marriage certificate.

[youngster30uk]

On 10/11/2018 at 10:10 AM, ubonjoe said:

No

You only need a copy of her house book registry and ID card signed by her. You do need the original of your marriage certificate.

Joe or anyone, would appreciate an urgent answer if you can.  I am just double checking my docs before I go Vientiane tomorrow. My wife suddenly told me that the copy of her housebook, is just a copy of only the page that shows her name.  Is this OK or does she need the full info (its her parents house, so parents and wife are all listed in the book, but we dont have that copy), and being old people in a small thai village, its not easy to get before tomorrow

 

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, youngster30uk said:

Joe or anyone, would appreciate an urgent answer if you can.  I am just double checking my docs before I go Vientiane tomorrow. My wife suddenly told me that the copy of her housebook, is just a copy of only the page that shows her name.  Is this OK or does she need the full info (its her parents house, so parents and wife are all listed in the book, but we dont have that copy), and being old people in a small thai village, its not easy to get before tomorrow

 

The page she is registered on should be enough. Normally for other things they also want a copy of page one that shows the address of the house.

[youngster30uk]

you should charge Joe. you provide a great service, thanks

 

[SkyNets]

Hey Ubonjoe, I'm on a non B extension and plan to change to a non O as married now. If I meet all the requirements, can I change it over here or would I need to leave and re-enter?

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

On 10/5/2018 at 6:22 PM, ubonjoe said:

Here is my list general list of required documents and etc for the extension application. Marriage Extension Requirements 2.pdf

 

 

Joe, re the Kor Ror 2 form, do you know, can the updated version of that be obtained from any amphur office, or only from the amphur where the couple was originally married? And is there any general recency timeframe that typically is required, including for BKK specifically?

 

Also, seems like the portion of the pdf doc relating to Embassy income letters to document income for marriage extensions is headed toward needing a revision, in light of the recent announcements by the British and UK Embassies that they will no longer be issuing said letters from 2019 onward.

 

[SkyNets]

25 minutes ago, youngster30uk said:

you should charge Joe. you provide a great service, thanks

 

I think Thai immigration should pay him a salary, more helpful than most of them.

[ubonjoe]

1 hour ago, SkyNets said:

Hey Ubonjoe, I'm on a non B extension and plan to change to a non O as married now. If I meet all the requirements, can I change it over here or would I need to leave and re-enter?

You can change the reason for your extension of stay from working to marriage. 

Your current extension would have to canceled so that you can apply for a new one.

[ubonjoe]

1 hour ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Joe, re the Kor Ror 2 form, do you know, can the updated version of that be obtained from any amphur office, or only from the amphur where the couple was originally married?

It can be requested at any Amphoe for a fee of 20 baht. It can be as old as 30 days at the majority of immigration offices.

When a new method of income proof is announced by immigration will update my copy of the PDF.

 

[youngster30uk]

Thanks to Ubonjoe, I got my non o from Vientiane without issue, 

 

So my next question, If anyone can help please

 

I am now about to make my application to the British Embassy for proof of income.  The forms says that the amounts should not be converted to THB, However, some of my income is in RMB, is converted to US$ before it is sent, and goes directly to my Thai Account so arrives as THB.  WHat should I enter? the RMB or the THB?

 

I have other income that is also US$ and gets paid into my English account, so arrives as GBP. Again, do I enter US$ or GBP?

 

thanks for any help guys

 

[Nong Khai Man]

I am now about to make my application to the British Embassy for proof of income.........They DON'T Do them any more !!!

[youngster30uk]

8 minutes ago, Nong Khai Man said:

I am now about to make my application to the British Embassy for proof of income.........They DON'T Do them any more !!!

Applications can be made until 12th December, they will stop issuing them on 1st January

 

 

[ubonjoe]

5 hours ago, youngster30uk said:

I have other income that is also US$ and gets paid into my English account, so arrives as GBP. Again, do I enter US$ or GBP?

You need to convert it to GBP.