National 20-year strategy plan takes effect

[rooster59]

National 20-year strategy plan takes effect

By The Nation

 

The junta's 20-year national strategy plan took effect on Saturday when it was published on the Royal Gazette.

 

The Royal Gazette announced that His Majesty the King signed an endorsement of the plan on October 8 and it was countersigned by Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha on the same day.

 

The strategy plan was approved by the Cabinet on June 5 and it was approved by the National Legislative Assembly on July 6.

 

The 20-year national strategy, highlighted in the Constitution, obliges future governments to adhere to the plans. Cabinet members could be impeached if they refuse to comply with it.

 

Political parties and critics have lamented that the strategy, written with limited public participation, would overrule future elected governments and force them to carry out the junta’s legacy.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30356376

 

 

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-10-13

[bluesofa]

10 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

The 20-year national strategy, highlighted in the Constitution, obliges future governments to adhere to the plans.

No problem, they can change it themselves - tomorrow. That's if it's anything like the ban on riding in the back of pickups or the pet registration plan is anything to go by.

 

[Thaiwrath]

18 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

The 20-year national strategy, highlighted in the Constitution, obliges future governments to adhere to the plans.

Another rogue Military coup would rip up this strategy immediately, something this rogue leader knows a few things about ?

[darksidedog]

19 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

 

The 20-year national strategy, highlighted in the Constitution, obliges future governments to adhere to the plans.

So what happens if and when they decide that the plan is not a good one, or simply isn't working? Will they be forced to drag the country down, rather than admit that they might have got it wrong? The world may well be a very different place in 20 years after all.

[bluesofa]

2 minutes ago, darksidedog said:

So what happens if and when they decide that the plan is not a good one, or simply isn't working? Will they be forced to drag the country down, rather than admit that they might have got it wrong? The world may well be a very different place in 20 years after all.

I no understand, Mr Fawlty.

 

[Justgrazing]

This 20 yr plan thing .. What is it , what does it encompass as It doesnt come across as any more than hamstringing with added straight-jacketing any future administration who will be compelled to continue with dogma beloved of the currant set-up .. It'll end in tears in a way that seems to be the only way things get changed around here ..

Edited October 13, 2018 by Justgrazing
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[smutcakes]

Anyone seen this plan? or is it an invisible plan which no one has ever seen like the reform plan?

[robblok]

5 minutes ago, smutcakes said:

Anyone seen this plan? or is it an invisible plan which no one has ever seen like the reform plan?

Im sure the ones who made it have seen it.. its a secret for all others ????

 

Shameful, i am not against long term strategy especially here in Thailand where plans change with each new government and things don't get done, but this sounds too restrictive.

[bluesofa]

15 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

This 20 yr plan thing .. What is it , what does it encompass as It doesnt comes across as any more than hamstringing with added straight-jacketing any future administration who will be compelled to continue with dogma beloved of the currant set-up .. It'll end in tears in a way that seems to be the only way things get changed around here ..

Maybe it covers the Chinese railway so it is finished by then. Oops, no my mistake, that will be finished in three years time:

"Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittay-apaisith said a total of 13 construction contracts for the Bangkok-Nakhon Ratchasima route would be open for bidding in 2018 so that construction could be completed and the system become operational in 2021."

 

Or perhaps it's the "Foreigner database to be ready in six months. The order was given by Deputy Prime Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan" That was in February - maybe 20 years would cover that one?

 

[klauskunkel]

3 hours ago, darksidedog said:

So what happens if and when they decide that the plan is not a good one, or simply isn't working? Will they be forced to drag the country down, rather than admit that they might have got it wrong? The world may well be a very different place in 20 years after all.

What happened when the military bought bogus bomb detectors?

Well, the brass insisted for a number of years that the detectors did test correctly and were working just fine, and only after more and more countries and incidents and increasing outcry of corruption in the military did they admit to being stupid and jumped on the bandwagon lawsuits. However, still insisting that the bomb detector operators were happy operating the fakes and happiness is more important than security. 

Short conclusion: what goes for the detectors will go for the 20 year plan. If the plan doesn't work, it will work anyway (that's assured by the military). The world may change, but Thailand may not (that's prohibited by the military). Will they be forced to drag the country down (that's guaranteed by the military).

[Eric Loh]

3 hours ago, smutcakes said:

Anyone seen this plan? or is it an invisible plan which no one has ever seen like the reform plan?

It has not been written yet. Now that it’s gazetted (surprised that it took 3 months), a steering committee will be appointed to select 6 sub-groups who will be responsible for writing the plan. Stand corrected if others have better information. However the long delay for royal endorsement may meant more than meets the eyes. Maybe just maybe, the detail strategies will be written during elected government IMO. 

[zzaa09]

4 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Another rogue Military coup would rip up this strategy immediately, something this rogue leader knows a few things about ?

Unfortunately, the totally accepted ideals of solving our problems with cycles of military coups and continued propped-up oligarchy is a sad state. 

[Ulic]

The Soviet Union had 5-year plans. This is a 20-year plan so it must be four times as good. 

[Fex Bluse]

Thailand lacks the persistence to meet any 20 year plan. As soon as it is not fun or 'sanuk' the effort will be abandoned and never spoken about again 

[guest879]

I liked it more when it was called a roadmap. roadmaps are use full.

[edwinchester]

If the next elected govt has any balls it will organise a national referendum with two questions.....should it follow the manifesto it was elected on or follow the junta's 20 year plan and should we keep or end military conscription.

[Grusa]

It all goes to prove that which I have always believed:- Governments are mostly irrelevant. Life goes on, things happen, or not, laws proclamations edicts and regulations are made, repealed, ignored, enforced....whatever. It all makes little difference to the "man on the Clapham omnibus". Wars, tsunamis, murder, rape, genocide, corruption, the second coming, Armageddon, Apocalypse, happy hour, cultural revolution .. none of it matters, nobody can or will fix or change any of it. It's not Karma, it's just nature. Governments are demonstrably short term and of limited value......in the longer term.

 

We are living in a time that demonstrates my assertion:- European countries including UK, the US, Canada, Thailand, Korea N & S, most of the middle East, .....all palpably headed by mindless idiots, but life goes on..........somehow.

[JAG]

6 hours ago, smutcakes said:

Anyone seen this plan? or is it an invisible plan which no one has ever seen like the reform plan?

I believe that it was written on the back of "the roadmap". Incidentally, has anyone seen the...

[Lacessit]

Even the most rabid Communist countries only tried for 5 years. Perhaps the Thais responsible for this nonsense think they have better fortune tellers.

[zzaa09]

1 hour ago, edwinchester said:

If the next elected govt has any balls it will organise a national referendum with two questions.....should it follow the manifesto it was elected on or follow the junta's 20 year plan and should we keep or end military conscription.

The next elected government or the next coup/countercoup.

One and the same, yes? 

 

Remembering, that all standing governments - regardless of the origins or stature - are obligated to be beholding to the other influential ones. 

 

Per usual, the bigger picture is missed.

[zzaa09]

20 minutes ago, Grusa said:

It all goes to prove that which I have always believed:- Governments are mostly irrelevant. Life goes on, things happen, or not, laws proclamations edicts and regulations are made, repealed, ignored, enforced....whatever. It all makes little difference to the "man on the Clapham omnibus". Wars, tsunamis, murder, rape, genocide, corruption, the second coming, Armageddon, Apocalypse, happy hour, cultural revolution .. none of it matters, nobody can or will fix or change any of it. It's not Karma, it's just nature. Governments are demonstrably short term and of limited value......in the longer term.

 

We are living in a time that demonstrates my assertion:- European countries including UK, the US, Canada, Thailand, Korea N & S, most of the middle East, .....all palpably headed by mindless idiots, but life goes on..........somehow.

.....and one might be surprised as to how everyday life does go on, regardless of particular situations.

[chainarong]

6 hours ago, bluesofa said:

Maybe it covers the Chinese railway so it is finished by then. Oops, no my mistake, that will be finished in three years time:

"Transport Minister Arkhom Termpittay-apaisith said a total of 13 construction contracts for the Bangkok-Nakhon Ratchasima route would be open for bidding in 2018 so that construction could be completed and the system become operational in 2021."

 

Or perhaps it's the "Foreigner database to be ready in six months. The order was given by Deputy Prime Minister General Prawit Wongsuwan" That was in February - maybe 20 years would cover that one?

 

I had a look at the High Speed concrete monstrosity yesterday out Korat way, they'll be battling to finish it by 2045

[Eric Loh]

41 minutes ago, zzaa09 said:

.....and one might be surprised as to how everyday life does go on, regardless of particular situations.

Life goes on since the Stone Age. Since then life has improved with smart phone and budget airlines. Wonder how that happen without organized society. 

[SABloke]

7 hours ago, smutcakes said:

Anyone seen this plan? or is it an invisible plan which no one has ever seen like the reform 

Just look for it on the roadmap...

[madmitch]

The twenty year plan is simply to ensure that the military and the elites retain their say in the running of he country for a long time.

 

I would fully expect this law to be rescinded in the event of a party without military ties winning the next election........but what are the chances of that?

[bluesofa]

1 minute ago, SABloke said:

Just look for it on the roadmap...

It's near Nakon Nowhere - in fact on it's the road to nowhere.

 

[zzaa09]

1 minute ago, bluesofa said:

It's near Nakon Nowhere - in fact on it's the road to nowhere.

 

My most favoured and accepted places...

 

????

[zzaa09]

18 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Life goes on since the Stone Age. Since then life has improved with smart phone and budget airlines. Wonder how that happen without organized society. 

Siwilai and developed. 

 

Perspectives will vary greatly as to what those might be.

[InfinityandBeyond]

20 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

It's near Nakon Nowhere - in fact on it's the road to nowhere.

 

I disagree. The aim is to drive at full speed in reverse on the wrong side of the carriage way all they back to the Sukhothai period. 

 

20 year plan with no opportunity for succeeding gov'ts to change/adjust  policy means upcoming (and successive) elections are moot. Merely window dressing for the int'l community. 

 

20 yrs is ample time to drain the treasury and pad offshore bank accounts. And when Thailand (the tired old whore that she is-polluted and corrupt) is on the verge of financial collapse and is an economic basket case, it will be time to move funds back in and "revitalise" the economy @ 10 cents on the dollar while those funds have been marinating overseas for 2 decades. 

 

The 20 yr plan is to bring the masses to heel. Keep them as tenant farmers/indentured servants. Elections will be a farce. Welcome to Mediaeval times. 

Edited October 13, 2018 by InfinityandBeyond
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[Grusa]

37 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Life goes on since the Stone Age. Since then life has improved with smart phone and budget airlines. Wonder how that happen without organized society. 

and have those develoments contributed any noticeable improvement to the human lot?