Video Farang washing cars to make a living - says he's making 6,000 baht a day!

[Pete1980]

5 hours ago, Aussie999 said:

Part of your taxes, in Australia, are for retirement...ie, the pension, he is entitled to it, whether you like it or not. I hope your parents, family, friends etc aren't claiming any form of benefits. 

Certainly not. And I never will, I was brought up to pay my own way. Others have a sense of entitlement.

A friend in need, is a pest indeed.

[giddyup]

5 minutes ago, Will27 said:

I'm trying to figure out what point you're actually trying to make.

 

Are you saying that people who are eligible for the OAP shouldn't take it, 

or that they shouldn't be able to live overseas and enjoy themselves?

He's just stirring the pot by making of the wall remarks. Don't feed him.

[Pete1980]

3 hours ago, Borpender said:

Exactly HOW do you know he didn't save enough? He started a business for his wife and is helping her out as it was better than sitting around watching TV (as he says). Also, if he did work all his life isn't he entitled to his pension?

No

3 hours ago, Borpender said:

 

 

 

I understand your thoughts on welfare cheats but a 70 year old man claiming his pension seems fine to me.

Middle class welfare is sending the country broke.

[giddyup]

3 minutes ago, Pete1980 said:

No

Middle class welfare is sending the country broke.

As long as you (and others like you) keep making money and paying your taxes we'll be OK. As long as there is enough left in the kitty to keep me in comfort until I cark it, that's all that matters.

Edited November 13, 2018 by giddyup

[Peterw42]

15 minutes ago, Dick Crank said:

If he's washing cars and all the money is going to the wife why would he need a wp?

 

does he need a wp to wash his own vehicle or buy food for his family? Thais can do both of those. Does he need to hire a thai to do his laundry or can he wash it?

work is work either paid or unpaid, he is getting paid indirectly as the wife is probably paying the rent and buying groceries with the money. If you start using an argument that you are not getting paid it could be exploited , I drive my wifes taxi all day but I dont get paid, I collect the money and give it to my wife.

[Pete1980]

45 minutes ago, roo860 said:

 

 

You just don't give up spouting crap, still waiting for the evidence about the guy getting benefits etc.

Sent from my SM-G920F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

 

What do you think a pension is? A government cash handout.

[watcharacters]

2 hours ago, thaiguzzi said:

i do have a life) , bitter, twisted, unknowledgeable, glass half empty 

 

 

Thanks for that breath of fresh air..         JUST JOKING,  JUST JOKING..  

[giddyup]

1 minute ago, Pete1980 said:

What do you think a pension is? A government cash handout.

Depending on his financial status he might only be getting a dollar a week aged pension.

[Pete1980]

2 hours ago, huberthammer said:

mostly complain and put his nose in other people's business...

When I am paying dor it, it is my business. Part of me would like to dob him in to centerlink, but dobbing IMO is un Australian. As is bludging off welfare.

[roo860]

What do you think a pension is? A government cash handout.

Entitlement.

You have some sort of dyslexia judging by your ludicrous posts and replies, as well as learning Thai you need a few lessons in English comprehension.

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[giddyup]

3 minutes ago, Pete1980 said:

What do you think a pension is? A government cash handout.

I would have thought your anger might be better directed at the pollies who give themselves huge pensions of over $100,000 a year, some as much as $200,00 plus benefits, they are also able to retire much earlier than the rest of us.

[PremiumLane]

19 minutes ago, Pete1980 said:

No

Middle class welfare is sending the country broke.

actually it is tax dodging corporations that are sending the country broke... but don't let facts get in the way of some ideological nonsense 

[Pete1980]

24 minutes ago, Will27 said:

I'm trying to figure out what point you're actually trying to make.

 

Are you saying that people who are eligible for the OAP shouldn't take it, 

or that they shouldn't be able to live overseas and enjoy themselves?

I am saying welfare should only go to those in genuine need. If he is earning $200 per day and living here, he doesnt need to be taking welfare.

OAP is just a nice way of saying "Old persons dole"

If you give people welfare, they dont work and save for themselves. Thailand has very, very little welfare, no middle class welfare, and as a result has full employment.

Australia has whole families on it, and the taxpayer foots the bill.

[Pete1980]

That is it for me for the day. I am going to head down to Soi 6 to blow my savings on booze and hookers. So that I qualify for an OAP, which I have just been convinced I am entitled to.

[Aussie999]

48 minutes ago, Pete1980 said:

Certainly not. And I never will, I was brought up to pay my own way. Others have a sense of entitlement.

A friend in need, is a pest indeed.

Mate, you certainly do not simply understand, he has paid for it, just as you have, through the taxes paid, you have no evidence otherwise, besides, the 6000baht earnt is NOT his, it belongs to the business, for all you know he could work for free.

[Aussie999]

18 minutes ago, Pete1980 said:

That is it for me for the day. I am going to head down to Soi 6 to blow my savings on booze and hookers. So that I qualify for an OAP, which I have just been convinced I am entitled to.

I think you've already had too much booze.

[skippy]

Pops could be a war vet for for all anyone knows.

[Tongjaw]

1 hour ago, Pete1980 said:

 

Are you financially illiterate? Fully franked means my company has paid the tax. Apart from that I have paid a lot of income, company tax etc and collected hundred of thousands of dollars for the ATO in gst over the years.

 

I never said I was wealthy, you just assumed that because i said i have shares. People on welfare dont buy shares because they are terrified "It will affect my pension"

 

BTW I have had a good year this year as I shorted the banks the day they announced the royal commission.

Good onya Bill Gates whatever floats your boat cobber. Although perhaps a little bit of Pseudologia Fantastica going one might think. 

[Will27]

28 minutes ago, skippy said:

Pops could be a war vet for for all anyone knows.

PTSD

[balo]

12 hours ago, cleverman said:

A man washes cars and gets 21 pages,so far ,of comments. Get a life.

It will soon be 100 pages , this is Thaivisa you know. Only 10% of us has a life. 

 

[MikeN]

2 hours ago, Pete1980 said:

What do you think a pension is? A government cash handout.

For somebody who claims to be financially well off, you certainly are financially illiterate.

 A pension could be a self funded one.. with all your alleged wealth don’t you have a SMSF ? Crazy if you don’t.

Or it could be a defined benefit one as they used to have in the military, for example. They were a condition of employment....the pay was not the best around but wear the uniform for 20 years and you end up with a pension to make up for the low pay. Certainly not a govt cash handout !

 

[giddyup]

1 hour ago, Will27 said:

PTSD

If he's on a TPI pension, he's on easy street.

[cleverman]

2 hours ago, Pete1980 said:

I am saying welfare should only go to those in genuine need. If he is earning $200 per day and living here, he doesnt need to be taking welfare.

OAP is just a nice way of saying "Old persons dole"

If you give people welfare, they dont work and save for themselves. Thailand has very, very little welfare, no middle class welfare, and as a result has full employment.

Australia has whole families on it, and the taxpayer foots the bill.

Complete and utter rubbish. If OAP was a nice way of saying etc., then it would be OPD.

[Henrik Andersen]

On 11/12/2018 at 12:35 PM, simon43 said:

This is not going to end well...

I have same feeling 

he can't get working visa for this kind of business 

[sambum]

2 hours ago, Pete1980 said:

I am saying welfare should only go to those in genuine need. If he is earning $200 per day and living here, he doesnt need to be taking welfare.

OAP is just a nice way of saying "Old persons dole"

If you give people welfare, they dont work and save for themselves. Thailand has very, very little welfare, no middle class welfare, and as a result has full employment.

Australia has whole families on it, and the taxpayer foots the bill.

"OAP is just a nice way of saying "Old persons dole"

 

Garbage! "Dole" is unemployment benefit paid to those out of work either by choice or not, and is definitely not "welfare"! 

 

Old Age Pension is something that people pay for all their working lives via compulsory deductions from their wages/salary, and whether you qualify for a full pension depends on how many years you have put into the system, For example if you only pay in for say, 20 years, you will get significantly less than someone who has paid in for 40.

 

"Australia has whole families on it, and the taxpayer foots the bill." 

 

I think you are confusing Old Age Pension with Social Security/Social Welfare, and the UK is in a similar position to Australia in that respect. There are many people (residents and immigrants) that abuse the system, but do NOT include people who have worked all their lives - sometimes struggling to get by in order to look after their families and give their children a decent education who have not been able to "save for themselves" as you condescendingly state in your comments. These people are like YOUR parents - the ones who put YOU through school, and possibly University, and if they could afford to do that AND save for themselves, so that they do not need their Old Age Pension, then lucky you and them, but do not for one minute think that it is a "handout" - it has been paid for in contributions over the years. 

[giddyup]

33 minutes ago, sambum said:

 Old Age Pension is something that people pay for all their working lives via compulsory deductions from their wages/salary, and whether you qualify for a full pension depends on how many years you have put into the system, For example if you only pay in for say, 20 years, you will get significantly less than someone who has paid in for 40.

Wrong! Australia has nothing like the UK system. It makes no difference in Oz whether you work all your life or have been unemployed, everyone is entitled to the same amount of aged pension, which is means tested and may be reduced according to your income from other sources. To qualify you have to be living in Australia for I believe a minimum of 10 years, but to get the full pension it's 35 years.

Edited November 13, 2018 by giddyup

[wow64]

get the brown envelope ready. 

[Billy Bloggs]

On 11/12/2018 at 2:24 PM, 1337markus said:

You dont know much about the Australian government then. Any eligible pensioner who is absent from Australia more than 6 weeks has the pension stopped.

No they dont as long as they spent 2 years previous to make the pension portable, they do stop bits of it but majority is still paid. Like me Im over 65.5 now I can go back and spend 2 years there and then Im free to live where ever I like, or if I had lived in Oz from age 63.5 to 65.5 when I was eligible at 65.5 I could have done the same thing of taking it off shore.

By the way he isnt earn the money his wifes business is he would be paid 300 baht a day(sorry couldnt resist)

[fasteddie]

6 hours ago, Pete1980 said:

Where do you think centrelink gets its money to dish out welfare from?

So you know it's not a private pension or even superannuation or if he's even receiving a pension? And doesn't the possibility that he's worked and paid taxes all his life, and therefore contributed to others pensions, make it fair and right he should also receive a pension?

Edited November 13, 2018 by fasteddie

[CharlieH]

off topic removed.