Pro-junta Palang Pracharat Party wins many Pheu Thai members

[webfact]

Pro-junta Palang Pracharat Party wins many Pheu Thai members

By THE NATION

 

 

THE NEWLY-FORMED, pro-junta Palang Pracharat Party is pulling in more and more former MPs and government ministers, as well as celebrities.

 

Many people showed up at the party headquarters yesterday to submit their membership applications, and more are expected to apply at the party’s general assembly at Shangri-La Hotel on Sunday. 

 

Also, many of the new Palang Pracharat members come from the previously ruling Pheu Thai Party, including Chalong Riewrang, Thawee Suraban, Wichai Chaijitwanitkul and Wiang Worachet.

 

Chalong explained he had chosen to join Palang Pracharat because this government was implementing projects he considered beneficial to the people, especially those in his Nonthaburi constituency. He also said he was confident that all Palang Pracharat candidates will get elected in Nonthaburi. 

 

Meanwhile, Wichai said he believed the middle-class and the grassroots people will find the party’s policy platform pleasing. Also, he said, though his Udon Thani constituency was generally seen as the “capital of the red shirts” – main supporters of Pheu Thai – he is still convinced that Palang Pracharat will fare well in the elections.

 

“We aim to win four MP seats from the eight [Udon Thani] constituencies,” he said.

 

Thawee, who had been a Democrat Party MP before defecting to Pheu Thai many years ago, said yesterday that he believed Palang Pracharat would “win substantially” in the South, which has long been a stronghold for the Democrats.

 

“The old party’s popularity has dropped in all 14 southern provinces,” the politician said, obviously referring to Democrat Party.

 

Meanwhile, spokesman for the Sam Mit (Three Friends) group, Thanakorn Wangboonkongchana, said that more than 50 politicians will join the Palang Pracharat on Sunday. 

 

Among them are many former Cabinet members and ex-MPs, including Suriya Jungrungreangkit, Somsak Thepsuthin, Pinyo Niroj, Monthien Songpracha, Pirom Polwiset and Boonying Nitikanchana, the spokesman added.

 

New party ‘has earned trust of locals’

 

He said that Sam Mit, led by Somsak, has visited electorates in many areas over the past five months and earned the trust of local residents. 

 

“So, we are confident Palang Pracharat will win the election,” the spokesman said.

 

Also submitting membership applications yesterday were Ekkaraj Changlao and his son Wattana, who are both executives of Khonkaen United football club. Ekkaraj is a former member of the now-defunct post-coup National Reform Council, while Wattana is deputy chief executive of Khon Kaen’s Provincial Administrative Organisation.

 

Former manager of Thailand’s national football team, Watanya Wongopasi, also known as “Madame Dear”, is also expected to apply for Palang Pracharat membership today, a source familiar with the matter said. 

 

Separately, the director of Nida Poll said yesterday that he has given up his position at the survey unit after taking up Palang Pracharat membership. 

 

Napong Nophaket, director of Nida Poll at the National Institute of Development Administration (Nida), said he tendered his resignation on Tuesday to avoid a conflict of interest and maintain the credibility of the university’s survey unit.

 

Also yesterday, Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan, who is also defence minister, was asked to comment on opinion surveys showing that Palang Pracharat was almost as popular as Pheu Thai. In response, he said Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha has gained a lot of public support, though he did not know if he would join Palang Pracharat.

 

Palang Pracharat is expected to nominate General Prayut as its prime ministerial candidate in the run-up to the next election.

 

Speaking at the Defence Ministry, General Prawit, who is in charge of security affairs, also reiterated that elections would be held on February 24, dismissing concerns of possible “foul play” by the junta aimed at delaying the election. 

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30358667

 

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[chainarong]

Times are changing the political parties of old are on the nose, it will be an interesting election, pity about the Senators that will be elected by their peers, there merits of being in a Parliament of the people for the people have been diminished, they could even be called parasites. 

[zzaa09]

2 hours ago, chainarong said:

Times are changing the political parties of old are on the nose, it will be an interesting election, pity about the Senators that will be elected by their peers, there merits of being in a Parliament of the people for the people have been diminished, they could even be called parasites. 

Parasitical plutocracy.

[YetAnother]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Also, many of the new Palang Pracharat members come from the previously ruling Pheu Thai Party, including Chalong Riewrang, Thawee Suraban, Wichai Chaijitwanitkul and Wiang Worachet.

thailand's slide continues; no good choices

[smutcakes]

So the Sam Mit have been visiting villages and meeting electorates for 5 months says a member of the PPP party?

 

Is this not a straight up admittance that outside party members are effecting a party?

[boonrawdcnx]

So they where ousted in a coup because they where corrupt - and now that same bunch of corrupt politicians joins the other bunch of corrupt scoundrels who stole the country from the people by force?

And they all do it to work tirelessly for the country and the Thai people and not to fill their own deep pockets of course.

I see a really bright future ahead for Thailand.

Unless the Thai people finally wake up and stage a Malaysian style protest vote against the thieves who rob their country and vote for the only real choice for change - Future Forward.
If not - they should and will just get what they deserve!





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[bannork]

2 minutes ago, boonrawdcnx said:

So they where ousted in a coup because they where corrupt - and now that same bunch of corrupt politicians joins the other bunch of corrupt scoundrels who stole the country from the people by force?

And they all do it to work tirelessly for the country and the Thai people and not to fill their own deep pockets of course.

I see a really bright future ahead for Thailand.

Unless the Thai people finally wake up and stage a Malaysian style protest vote against the thieves who rob their country and vote for the only real choice for change - Future Forward.
If not - they should and will just get what they deserve!





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Future Forward have no policies for the 22 million workers in agriculture and don't support a minimum wage linked to inflation. Thus their appeal relies solely on the urban middle class. They should pick up enough votes for a few Party List seats imo but that's it.

[hansnl]

2 hours ago, YetAnother said:

thailand's slide continues; no good choices

PT, in your idea, was a good choice then?

For whom?

[yellowboat]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Palang Pracharat is expected to nominate General Prayut as its prime ministerial candidate in the run-up to the next election.

The rudderless, peace at any price will continue of this party wins.  I guess fear of upsetting the military will prevail should the little general get elected.  The certain boredom will persist in Thailand. 

[robblok]

Future Forward have no policies for the 22 million workers in agriculture and don't support a minimum wage linked to inflation. Thus their appeal relies solely on the urban middle class. They should pick up enough votes for a few Party List seats imo but that's it.

A minimum wage linked to inflation is a good thing though it should not be automatic. Economic outlook should be considered too. This is how it works where i am from.

But i agree the party won't stand a chance. Now its just the old corrupt bunch changing seats at the dining table of corruption.


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[JAG]

21 minutes ago, hansnl said:

PT, in your idea, was a good choice then?

For whom?

For the very large numbers who voted for it, and it's predecessors, consistently?

 

Personally, my take is that as a party it was the best bet out of a poor field, but that is just my personal opinion. The point is though, it was consistently and decisively the choice of the Thai people - a choice which the military ( or more accurately those the military answer to) have found it necessary to foil twice (three?) times in the last twenty years. The electorate may have regarded it as a good choice, or merely as the best of a bad bunch, but it looks very likely that an attempt will be made to remove that choice, once again, at the critical point, prior to the election, which will prevent any effective replacement being established. That is, maybe, why these venal creatures are jumping ship?

Edited November 16, 2018 by JAG

[Ossy]

Could this be the end of the world, as we had come to enjoy and respect it? Appropriate name, though . . . pee-pee ????

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

Future Forward have no policies for the 22 million workers in agriculture and don't support a minimum wage linked to inflation. Thus their appeal relies solely on the urban middle class. They should pick up enough votes for a few Party List seats imo but that's it.

You are absolutely right. Bread and butter issues must be top of his agenda if he want to win support from the masses. Conscription and changing laws are important but do not address current economic woes of the common people.. The financial woes are best captured by this plead from an ordinary man on the street.

 

Somkiat Santakorn, 58, a vendor who travelled from Chumphon with his family to register as members of the party, said he liked its policy ideas and had faith in the democratic stance of the party. “What I want Future Forward to do quickly is work on the economy. People haven't had more money in their pockets over the past few years. Next I want to see changes in the laws and constitution for equality of rights". 

Maybe FFP will fleshed out their economic policies when the political ban if lifted. I hope so or they will unlikely to gain much support from the people. 

[Eric Loh]

50 minutes ago, JAG said:

For the very large numbers who voted for it, and it's predecessors, consistently?

 

Personally, my take is that as a party it was the best bet out of a poor field, but that is just my personal opinion. The point is though, it was consistently and decisively the choice of the Thai people - a choice which the military ( or more accurately those the military answer to) have found it necessary to foil twice (three?) times in the last twenty years. The electorate may have regarded it as a good choice, or merely as the best of a bad bunch, but it looks very likely that an attempt will be made to remove that choice, once again, at the critical point, prior to the election, which will prevent any effective replacement being established. That is, maybe, why these venal creatures are jumping ship?

As long as the generals continue to stage coups, the bad of the political parties will continue to thrive. Like the idiom, an one-eye corrupt man will be king in the land of blind corrupt generals. The alternative to stratocracy and authoritarian rule is always more appealing. Empowering people to vote their leaders is the only solution #Malaysia.  

[thaiguzzi]

6 hours ago, webfact said:

Also, many of the new Palang Pracharat members come from the previously ruling Pheu Thai Party, including Chalong Riewrang, Thawee Suraban, Wichai Chaijitwanitkul and Wiang Worachet.

Scum.

[Thailand]

34 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

Scum.

Cards will be marked no doubt.

[AJBangkok]

Trojan horse strategy maybe 

[MaxLee]

9 minutes ago, AJBangkok said:

Trojan horse strategy maybe 

 

Excellent assumption Mr. Holmes

[robblok]

As long as the generals continue to stage coups, the bad of the political parties will continue to thrive. Like the idiom, an one-eye corrupt man will be king in the land of blind corrupt generals. The alternative to stratocracy and authoritarian rule is always more appealing. Empowering people to vote their leaders is the only solution #Malaysia.  

Good point eric NOW with the new election system i agree with you because now its easier for small parties to grow. In the old system it was almost impossible as votes were lost if someone lost a constituency. Now they all count and smaller parties can emerge.

Before it would be almost impossible and the PTP would keep ruling.

So this is a good thing the junta did its a much more democratic system and will give rise to new parties (i know that was not their intention).



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[robblok]

Scum.

Why their morals haven't changed if you call them scum now then they were scum before. Just shows how rotten the Thai system is and that they are all in it for the money.

The whole old parties are all filled with people like this only new blood will change anything.

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[billd766]

quote from the OP. "Thawee  Suraban who had been a Democrat Party MP before defecting to Pheu Thai many years ago, said yesterday that he believed Palang Pracharat would “win substantially” in the South, which has long been a stronghold for the Democrats."

 

And he truly believes that Thai people will vote for even though he deserted from the Democrats to PTP to keep his snout in the trough, and has now deserted the PTP for another party to keep his snout in the trough once again.

 

He seems to have as his personal motto, "pull up the ladder Jack, I'm OK"

 

 

[gamini]

Politics and political parties are meaningless in Thailand. They all have exactly the same agenda of promoting their interests. Low taxes for the rich, no capital gains tax, no property tax etc.

there is no farmers party, workers party, Labour Party, Socialist party, Green party so the voters have no choice they can only work for business parties who put their interests above everything else. 

So it's no wonder the Thais are apathetic about voting. Whichever party they vote for they know it makes no difference to their quality of life. Many will vote for a military-aligned government since they see them as the lesser of two evils.

[Eric Loh]

51 minutes ago, gamini said:

Whichever party they vote for they know it makes no difference to their quality of life. Many will vote for a military-aligned government since they see them as the lesser of two evils.

Sorry to burst your fantasy bubble regarding quality of life and fascination for military government, check the ranking below. The year 2012 was under an elected government and quality of life ranking was “10”. Then check 2013 onwards and see how they declined under military government to the current “17”. A denial like you may not agree. 

https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2018-mid&displayColumn=0&region=142

[robblok]

Sorry to burst your fantasy bubble regarding quality of life and fascination for military government, check the ranking below. The year 2012 was under an elected government and quality of life ranking was “10”. Then check 2013 onwards and see how they declined under military government to the current “17”. A denial like you may not agree. 
https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2018-mid&displayColumn=0&region=142

Eric you do realize your making a error here. The quality of life has improved if you look at the figures from a 50 to a 100.

It is just that it improved more in other countries but in score the quality of life has improved.

Dont try to say they measure it differently as Japan the nr keeps the same absolute number.

So you actually made his point for him.

Try find some other proof.

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[Samui Bodoh]

1 hour ago, gamini said:

Politics and political parties are meaningless in Thailand. They all have exactly the same agenda of promoting their interests. Low taxes for the rich, no capital gains tax, no property tax etc.

there is no farmers party, workers party, Labour Party, Socialist party, Green party so the voters have no choice they can only work for business parties who put their interests above everything else. 

So it's no wonder the Thais are apathetic about voting. Whichever party they vote for they know it makes no difference to their quality of life. Many will vote for a military-aligned government since they see them as the lesser of two evils.

You make a valid point as to why many Thai people are discouraged by their political choices, but (respectfully) you don't seem to understand why.

 

Yes, I think Thai people would be much happier if they had a Labour party, a Green party (the good kind!), a Socialist party, etc. Yes, at the moment there are essentially two choices, both of which are pro-business parties.

 

It is a general rule of political development that two or more pro-business parties are the starting point in the development of Democratic governance; the examples of the PTP and Dem parties of Thailand are great examples.

 

In the course of normal political development within a country, two pro-business parties share/swap power for XXX amount of time until the voting public learns that it has the power to select whomever they want. Once that milestone has been achieved, it leads to more specialized parties taking shape. I don't know where you are from, but as many members are British, let me use a British example. For the first several hundred years of Democratic choice in England, there were essentially two, pro-business parties. After a looooooong while, voters realized that they could choose a party that better reflected their own desires and the Labour party was born. After the Labour party was born, voters realized that they could select the Lib/Dems and/or Greens, etc.

 

The British political development took centuries as most of the time it was leading the way and learning by doing. In the case of Thailand, there could be a MUCH more rapid development of more specialized parties, IF, REPEAT IF, elections were allowed to occur on a regular basis. For example, if the proper seeds of Democracy were planted and Thailand saw the peaceful transfer of power from one party to another, I would foresee the rapid development of a Farmer's party; it is simply logical and reasonable. 

 

However, the key to it all is that voters must see and believe that their vote matters, and that there can be a peaceful transfer of power from one party to another.

 

The MANY, MANY, MANY coups have halted this progress in its tracks. Each and every time.

 

So, if you want to see Democracy, the peaceful transfer of power, and more specialized political parties in Thailand, you MUST end the coups and allow the Thai people to make their choices, learn from their mistakes and let them choose who will govern them.

 

Above everything else, the coups must stop for ANY of the nice things to happen.

 

Will they? Tune in next week, same Bat time, same Bat channel...

 

PS this rigged abortion occurring now is just as bad as a coup.

 

Sad, sad times for beloved Thailand...

 

 

Edited November 16, 2018 by Samui Bodoh

[Eric Loh]

15 minutes ago, robblok said:

Eric you do realize your making a error here. The quality of life has improved if you look at the figures from a 50 to a 100.

It is just that it improved more in other countries but in score the quality of life has improved.

Dont try to say they measure it differently as Japan the nr keeps the same absolute number.

So you actually made his point for him.

Try find some other proof.

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Have you look at how the indices are measured. Look it up to get an understanding that other factors were added since 2015. Anyway, the point was that under elected government in 2012 was a marked better ranked than post coup military government. That fact stand.

[robblok]

You know and i know that says nothing at all.

 

Ill give you an example to set you straight.

 

Suppose we got Thailand competing in running events its athletes run 1 hour for a certain distance and by doing so are the 10th fastest.

 

Now 5 years later they compete again and they run the distance in 55 minutes but other countries go faster and they become 12th.

 

That did not mean Thai runners are worse as before they are actually better but by using your comparison you would say they are worse.

 

Now if you can come up with a graph that only measures Thailand and shows a decline ill agree with you.

 

I can tell you in my area the quality of life has improved a lot. Better roads more public transport. I see far more new cars in our village houses are being expanded and so on. Less power outages wider coverage of internet.

 

Also the GDP has improved too.

 

So its real hard to argue there has been a decline. Just like i cant argue it got better as i haven't seem such a graph. Even if you find something you need to see what is included. Neither of us will find the proof we need.

 

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[Eric Loh]

Rob, without sounding condescending, your personal anology measure poorly against a ranking based on empirical studies. That’s the proof I need.  

[robblok]

Rob, without sounding condescending, your personal anology measure poorly against a ranking based on empirical studies. That’s the proof I need.  

I had not expected you to give in given your preference for the PTP. Because what you say is totally wrong and my analogy is spot on.

Unless you can show me a graph for Thailand alone it means nothing. I had hoped you would see reason and logic. I guess hour even less gifted when it comes to numbers and statistics as i thought.

You really dont get it that a drop on a list does not mean anything as other countries could have improved more.

The only thing that could be wrong on my side is that i am working on a phone and might not get all data. Im fishing and its a quit day.

Can you show without the ranking as that means nothing how Thailand's absolute score has dropped over the years.

Like 2012 it scored 100 2013 it scored 90 2014 it scored 85 ect ect.

I tried to keep things simple for you as numbers are my business and i am great at it.

Again lets say you and me are in a weight lifting competition 2 years in a row. First year i lift 100 and you 90. Im fist your second. Second year i lift 110 and you 120 your first.

This does not mean i got worse just that you got better. That is how rankings work.

Now unless i missed an option where i could see Thailand its true score over the years measured in the same fashion it means nothing.

So is there such an option on the site that you posted showed this. Again im on a mobile so i might have missed it.




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[Ossy]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

I had not expected you to give in given your preference for the PTP. Because what you say is totally wrong and my analogy is spot on.

Unless you can show me a graph for Thailand alone it means nothing. I had hoped you would see reason and logic. I guess hour even less gifted when it comes to numbers and statistics as i thought.

You really dont get it that a drop on a list does not mean anything as other countries could have improved more.

The only thing that could be wrong on my side is that i am working on a phone and might not get all data. Im fishing and its a quit day.

Can you show without the ranking as that means nothing how Thailand's absolute score has dropped over the years.

Like 2012 it scored 100 2013 it scored 90 2014 it scored 85 ect ect.

I tried to keep things simple for you as numbers are my business and i am great at it.

Again lets say you and me are in a weight lifting competition 2 years in a row. First year i lift 100 and you 90. Im fist your second. Second year i lift 110 and you 120 your first.

This does not mean i got worse just that you got better. That is how rankings work.

Now unless i missed an option where i could see Thailand its true score over the years measured in the same fashion it means nothing.

So is there such an option on the site that you posted showed this. Again im on a mobile so i might have missed it.




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Attaboy, robblok . . . you tell 'im. Your 'analogy' works just fine.