1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

So the UK is still seeing growth, while the Eurozone is heading into recession and there's a severe slow down in China / global growth. And this is all while there is uncertainty over Brexit.

 

This shows just how resilient the UK economy is. Thanks for posting. 

 

still seeing growth yes,so why risk it for the sake of a few immigrants and 5 minutes quicker to see a doctor.   when we go into recession after brexit at least you knew the facts before it,but iam sure you will find some other excuse,

5 minutes ago, bomber said:

still seeing growth yes,so why risk it for the sake of a few immigrants and 5 minutes quicker to see a doctor.   when we go into recession after brexit at least you knew the facts before it,but iam sure you will find some other excuse,

If I were you, I wouldnt wait five minutes , I would go immediately 

Just now, sanemax said:

If I were you, I wouldnt wait five minutes , I would go immediately 

no need iam fit and healthy,and yourself

2 hours ago, Grouse said:

Rhetoric?

No but I did have too see the doctor. All good. thanks for asking.

2 hours ago, Grouse said:

At least the man had some logical arguments; I like that ????

I was just jealous. You never listen to me! ????

30 minutes ago, bomber said:

still seeing growth yes,so why risk it for the sake of a few immigrants and 5 minutes quicker to see a doctor.   when we go into recession after brexit at least you knew the facts before it,but iam sure you will find some other excuse,

of course, given that 20% of dr's are EU citizens as opposed to 5% of the general population, if they all leave there will be fewer dr for each person remaining to go and see.

 

And of course drs are in demand thought the EU so the can easily find jobs elsewhere  

Written by a Civil Servant.

 

For the UK, the choice can be summarised as one between democracy and permanent second-class statehood; freedom to hire and fire the people who make the laws we have to obey and pay for, or the triumph of pessimism due to the mistaken and craven belief that we aren’t mature and sensible enough to run our own affairs, and must cleave to a supranational body with minimal democratic legitimacy because we are too insignificant to defend our right to democratic self-government.

 

 

https://brexitcentral.com/precious-choice-democracy-permanent-second-class-statehood/

 

 

2 hours ago, aright said:

Written by a Civil Servant.

 

For the UK, the choice can be summarised as one between democracy and permanent second-class statehood; freedom to hire and fire the people who make the laws we have to obey and pay for, or the triumph of pessimism due to the mistaken and craven belief that we aren’t mature and sensible enough to run our own affairs, and must cleave to a supranational body with minimal democratic legitimacy because we are too insignificant to defend our right to democratic self-government.

 

 

https://brexitcentral.com/precious-choice-democracy-permanent-second-class-statehood/

 

 

you will be obeying comrade corbyn soon????    enjoy, dont forget to let us all know how it goes.

4 minutes ago, bomber said:

you will be obeying comrade corbyn soon????    enjoy, dont forget to let us all know how it goes.

How many times do you want to post that Corbyn will be the next PM ?

That must be about the 20 th time that you have posted that 

12 minutes ago, sanemax said:

How many times do you want to post that Corbyn will be the next PM ?

That must be about the 20 th time that you have posted that 

clear favourite in my book, joint favourite with the bookies,how people can say he cannot possibly win is madness,who are you expecting to be in power then? 

23 minutes ago, sanemax said:

How many times do you want to post that Corbyn will be the next PM ?

That must be about the 20 th time that you have posted that 

I totally agree with you. Even the loony left have as much faith in Corbyn, than Corbyn does. Who can believe in such a man that changes his mind every week. He has ruined the Labour party along with his middle class MP's pretending to be supporting the people. Hypocrites.

 

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/why-jeremy-corbyn-is-still-half-hearted-about-europe/

10 minutes ago, bomber said:

clear favourite in my book, joint favourite with the bookies,how people can say he cannot possibly win is madness,who are you expecting to be in power then? 

With the Tories and  Mays handling of Brexit , the uncertainty and the dithering about , they seem to have been taken by surprise with the Brexit result and not too sure what to do , and its quite common for the opposition party to gain in popularity during a current parties tenure , Labour should be way ahead in the polls for a forthcoming election .

   But they are not , Corbyn and his right hand woman , Abbot have shown themselves to be even worse than the Tories .

  You keep quoting the bookies , you dont seem to realise how the bookies work .

I think if Nigel's new party takes off and he fronts it with plain speaking, public responsive, middle of the road individuals he could do quite well.

Lets face it if you look at the records of the Conservatives and Socialists you can only conclude at the moment we are politically homeless.

Well, the latest talk is we'll be having a general election on May 2nd.

 

Then we'll see how strong support is for Corbyn and Farage

Edited February 11, 20197 yr by aright

47 minutes ago, aright said:

plain speaking, public responsive, middle of the road individuals

Like the SD (sicherheitsdienst)?

 

Will they all have the same colour shirts?

Edited February 11, 20197 yr by Grouse

18 hours ago, HauptmannUK said:

I'm hoping to import a container load of these to sell to Brexit supporting ex-pats..

still on sale.

45 minutes ago, sanemax said:

With the Tories and  Mays handling of Brexit , the uncertainty and the dithering about , they seem to have been taken by surprise with the Brexit result and not too sure what to do , and its quite common for the opposition party to gain in popularity during a current parties tenure , Labour should be way ahead in the polls for a forthcoming election .

   But they are not , Corbyn and his right hand woman , Abbot have shown themselves to be even worse than the Tories .

  You keep quoting the bookies , you dont seem to realise how the bookies work .

iam well aware how they work,i know loads of leave voters who've squandered everything to their masters.Labour should be well ahead yes but i think there will be a few twists to come that will see them win it,replacing corbyn would be a good start. 

http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/polls/general-election

5 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Like the SD (sicherheitsdienst)?

 

Will they all have the same colour shirts?

????  I don't know . Ask Vince Cable. 

Just now, aright said:

????  I don't know . Ask Vince Cable. 

Why?

49 minutes ago, aright said:

I think if Nigel's new party takes off and he fronts it with plain speaking, public responsive, middle of the road individuals he could do quite well.

Lets face it if you look at the records of the Conservatives and Socialists you can only conclude at the moment we are politically homeless.

Farage failed to be elected in every General Election he stood as a candidate.

1997, 2001, 2005, 2010, 2015.

Also failed to be elected in every Parliamentary by-election he stood:

1994 + 2006.

So much for plain speaking. And as for UKIP being middle-of-the-road in Parliamentary elections: 

 

6 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Farage failed to be elected in every General Election he stood as a candidate.

1997, 2001, 2005, 2010, 2015.

Also failed to be elected in every Parliamentary by-election he stood:

1994 + 2006.

So much for plain speaking. And as for UKIP being middle-of-the-road in Parliamentary elections: 

 

Keep up lad! Nigel will not be heading UKIP that's a different party. He resigned remember ? 

 

6 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Why?

He passes my outlined qualifications ...you were the one who claimed people of this ilk might all wear the same coloured shirts

Edited February 11, 20197 yr by aright

5 hours ago, tebee said:

of course, given that 20% of dr's are EU citizens as opposed to 5% of the general population, if they all leave there will be fewer dr for each person remaining to go and see.

 

And of course drs are in demand thought the EU so the can easily find jobs elsewhere  

Our doctors surgery is staffed by 1 Brit Doctor, 1 Pakistani and 4 Indian doctors. The other surgery in town is staffed by 1 Brit Doc and 5 Asian doctors.

 All this shows me,is that we are not training enough of our own doctors,relying instead on enticing doctors away from where they are needed.

 At the moment we train 7500 doctors each year, although the government  now states they will increase this number up to 8500. Unfortunately this number is still 1000+ short.

5 minutes ago, nontabury said:

Our doctors surgery is staffed by 1 Brit Doctor, 1 Pakistani and 4 Indian doctors. The other surgery in town is staffed by 1 Brit Doc and 5 Asian doctors.

 All this shows me,is that we are not training enough of our own doctors,relying instead on enticing doctors away from where they are needed.

 At the moment we train 7500 doctors each year, although the government  now states they will increase this number up to 8500. Unfortunately this number is still 1000+ short.

Yep, we train them up then they f@@k off abroad for better money...

Just now, Chelseafan said:

Yep, we train them up then they f@@k off abroad for better money...

Are you from Pakistan ?

8 hours ago, billd766 said:

Of course they are but they are from Remainers so expect nothing better.

 

"Grouse" isn't so bad, but bomber is a rabid Remainer and both have been on my ignore list for a while. I just cannot be bothered with either of them.

During the last couple of years, reading Grouses posts, I’ve often thought, would’t it be nice if Grouse actually took charge of the remain campaign in London. With his arrogant and self important attitude, I would expect that he could single handedly increase the support for Brexit to 85% of the population. But now that we have his side kick,bomber, perhaps I should say 95%.

14 minutes ago, Chelseafan said:

Yep, we train them up then they f@@k off abroad for better money...

Unfortunately to a certain extent,you are correct. Though why successive governments have not come up with, some sort of contract,before they start their training. I do’t know.

1 hour ago, nontabury said:

During the last couple of years, reading Grouses posts, I’ve often thought, would’t it be nice if Grouse actually took charge of the remain campaign in London. With his arrogant and self important attitude, I would expect that he could single handedly increase the support for Brexit to 85% of the population. But now that we have his side kick,bomber, perhaps I should say 95%.

We've got enough Yorkshiremen in London thank you very much.

3 hours ago, bomber said:

clear favourite in my book, joint favourite with the bookies,how people can say he cannot possibly win is madness,who are you expecting to be in power then? 

I wouldn't get too excited. He's 9/2.

Hard Brexit is also long at 13/5.