sanemax Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Just now, SheungWan said: I wouldn't get too excited. He's 9/2. Hard Brexit is also long at 13/5. I may put a cheeky tenner on Corbyn to win, each way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, sanemax said: I may put a cheeky tenner on Corbyn to win, each way There are no odds for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welovesundaysatspace Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Chelseafan said: Yep, we train them up then they f@@k off abroad for better money... God bless those good ol’ times when we still could have our slaves. Even that the EU took from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebee Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Lord Heseltine: "Theresa May put the Brexiteers in charge for 2 years, they completely screwed it all up; now, that they're on the backbenches they are festering the discontent which is a direct product of their own incompetence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 of course, given that 20% of dr's are EU citizens as opposed to 5% of the general population, if they all leave there will be fewer dr for each person remaining to go and see. And of course drs are in demand thought the EU so the can easily find jobs elsewhere It’s nowhere near that figure, probably half that, and most of those are Irish. What makes you think they will be going anywhere after Brexit? Not hurt feelings??? At about 80 grand for a GP, they are all doing very nicely thank you. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 All this shows me,is that we are not training enough of our own doctors,relying instead on enticing doctors away from where they areThousands apply for places to study medicine but are rejected, even with qualifying grades. I believe it to be the universities fault, in preferring international students at maybe 33,000 pounds per year, compared to 9,250 pa for UK and EU students. It’s big bucks for the Uni business. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rixalex Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 11:44 AM, samran said: The ones that usually come along with taking back control of your borders... wasnt that the point of all of this? No. The point was that WE have control. So if we feel a border is necessary, we put one up. If we don't feel it is necessary, we don't. As i've said many times before, remainers should stick to arguing for what they want, rather than trying to tell leavers what it is that they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 For info https://ukandeu.ac.uk/has-there-been-a-shift-in-support-for-brexit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 hours ago, nontabury said: During the last couple of years, reading Grouses posts, I’ve often thought, would’t it be nice if Grouse actually took charge of the remain campaign in London. With his arrogant and self important attitude, I would expect that he could single handedly increase the support for Brexit to 85% of the population. But now that we have his side kick,bomber, perhaps I should say 95%. Kindly do not take my name in vain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Admittedly while I think Brexit is stupid, I’m a bit of an Anglophile. Boris at it again today looking for a free movement zone with the old ‘white’ commonwealth countries. My only opposition to this is how does one keep the chavs out? https://www.afr.com/news/economy/trade/britain-australia-should-forge-postbrexit-freemovement-pact-boris-johnson-20190212-h1b4zo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Loiner said: Thousands apply for places to study medicine but are rejected, even with qualifying grades. I believe it to be the universities fault, in preferring international students at maybe 33,000 pounds per year, compared to 9,250 pa for UK and EU students. It’s big bucks for the Uni business. More nonsense making things up. Not a clue re the system in HE. Unis do not limit the number of home medical students entering undergrad studies according to assumed targets re home/overseas. Typical Hard Brexiteers mistaking their own uneducated imaginings for reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 More nonsense making things up. Not a clue re the system in HE. Unis do not limit the number of home medical students entering undergrad studies according to assumed targets re home/overseas. Typical Hard Brexiteers mistaking their own uneducated imaginings for reality.So the Unis have unlimited places on each course and can take every applicant who is qualified? Which successful students pay the most fee?Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 16 hours ago, melvinmelvin said: right DD, thanks, so I come across as mostly a remainer? hmmm intriguing I'll sleep on that one - maybe I have smth sensible to say tomorrow, don't hold your breath fan dii right DD have slept, have had breakfast, I echo a long time friend of mine "I rise with the sun, meaning, at noon I am fully upright/vertical" so you reckon I come across as (mainly) a remainer challenging for me to take that in I follow this Brexit threads because I consider Brexit to be one of the most interesting events this side of ww2, I am very interested in politics and multilateralism, nuke arms races and associated crap interests me in the middle of my bum. Brexit interests me day and night. I am not British. In my view it would be out of place to voice strong advice on what UK should to, and to be honest, I don't have a strong view on what would be best for UK. For me, it is very easy to understand and identify with the desire for being in command of statutes and regulations and not having to bow to ECJ. I can also understand the wish for promoting UK as a standalone entity and establishing her own trading environments. However, my mission is not to offer advice about what the UK ought to do re Brexit my mission is to ask questions and comment and hopefully now and then provoke some thinking my mission is also to share some of my experience and knowledge if I deem it relevant at any rate, as we say in Yorkshire, will have pizza and red wine for late lunch today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 7 hours ago, SheungWan said: I wouldn't get too excited. He's 9/2. Hard Brexit is also long at 13/5. he is leader of a party in a 2 horse race,the odds are so big because the bookies think Labour might get rid.Labour being Labour havent got the sense to do it and stroll into no 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomber Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 hours ago, samran said: Admittedly while I think Brexit is stupid, I’m a bit of an Anglophile. Boris at it again today looking for a free movement zone with the old ‘white’ commonwealth countries. My only opposition to this is how does one keep the chavs out? https://www.afr.com/news/economy/trade/britain-australia-should-forge-postbrexit-freemovement-pact-boris-johnson-20190212-h1b4zo 3 years too late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nontabury Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 8 hours ago, tebee said: Lord Heseltine: "Theresa May put the Brexiteers in charge for 2 years, they completely screwed it all up; now, that they're on the backbenches they are festering the discontent which is a direct product of their own incompetence! I wonder why Heseltine is so pro the E.U.? Surely it’s nothing to do with his estates in Oxfordshire and Northamptonshire, all part of his estimated wealth of Hundreds of million £’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Loiner said: So the Unis have unlimited places on each course and can take every applicant who is qualified? Which successful students pay the most fee? I strongly suggest some Hard Brexiteers do a little bit of research before shooting off like empty sawdust and then asking questions afterwards. Particularly those whose experience of the university system is second-hand or second-rate at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, nontabury said: I wonder why Heseltine is so pro the E.U.? Surely it’s nothing to do with his estates in Oxfordshire and Northamptonshire, all part of his estimated wealth of Hundreds of million £’s. The limited thinking capacity of most Hard Brexiteers probably doesn't extend to asking the contra question of Tim Martin. Why? Because cannot work anything out beyond copy and paste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loiner Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I strongly suggest some Hard Brexiteers do a little bit of research before shooting off like empty sawdust and then asking questions afterwards. Particularly those whose experience of the university system is second-hand or second-rate at best.Academia and academics - all sucking at the EU teat. No wonder they don’t want to Leave. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 22 hours ago, Krataiboy said: David Copperfield, more like. Politicians of all stripes are guilty of failing to observe Mr Micawber's dictum, The Micawber Principle. "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen pounds nineteen and six, result happiness," he declared. "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery." If political leaders across the world had practiced what this Dickens' character preached, we would not now be debt slaves to the bankers. And this Gentleman is the typical limit of a Hard Brexiteer's understanding of economics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 16 hours ago, aright said: Written by a Civil Servant. For the UK, the choice can be summarised as one between democracy and permanent second-class statehood; freedom to hire and fire the people who make the laws we have to obey and pay for, or the triumph of pessimism due to the mistaken and craven belief that we aren’t mature and sensible enough to run our own affairs, and must cleave to a supranational body with minimal democratic legitimacy because we are too insignificant to defend our right to democratic self-government. https://brexitcentral.com/precious-choice-democracy-permanent-second-class-statehood/ Get your broken record here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, melvinmelvin said: right DD have slept, have had breakfast, I echo a long time friend of mine "I rise with the sun, meaning, at noon I am fully upright/vertical" so you reckon I come across as (mainly) a remainer challenging for me to take that in I follow this Brexit threads because I consider Brexit to be one of the most interesting events this side of ww2, I am very interested in politics and multilateralism, nuke arms races and associated crap interests me in the middle of my bum. Brexit interests me day and night. I am not British. In my view it would be out of place to voice strong advice on what UK should to, and to be honest, I don't have a strong view on what would be best for UK. For me, it is very easy to understand and identify with the desire for being in command of statutes and regulations and not having to bow to ECJ. I can also understand the wish for promoting UK as a standalone entity and establishing her own trading environments. However, my mission is not to offer advice about what the UK ought to do re Brexit my mission is to ask questions and comment and hopefully now and then provoke some thinking my mission is also to share some of my experience and knowledge if I deem it relevant at any rate, as we say in Yorkshire, will have pizza and red wine for late lunch today Much as we applaud your efforts, not everybody is into prose attempting to resemble Japanese Waka poetry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aright Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, SheungWan said: The limited thinking capacity of most Hard Brexiteers probably doesn't extend to asking the contra question of Tim Martin. Why? Because cannot work anything out beyond copy and paste. The forum is blessed. We have found a man who says what people who aren't thinking are thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebee Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 The economic cost of the Brexit decision that Leaver voters do not get to see https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2019/02/the-economic-cost-of-brexit-decision.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, tebee said: The economic cost of the Brexit decision that Leaver voters do not get to see https://mainlymacro.blogspot.com/2019/02/the-economic-cost-of-brexit-decision.html Excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, Grouse said: Excellent More holes in that than Mickey's treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Grouse said: Kindly do not take my name in vain. Ivan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 The Economist on changing U.K. Immigration https://www.economist.com/britain/2019/02/09/europeans-in-britain-are-packing-up-the-rest-of-the-world-is-moving-in Becareful what you wish for. You're getting it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebee Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, nauseus said: More holes in that than Mickey's treat. There's none so blind as them that do not want to see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, tebee said: There's none so blind as them that do not want to see.... Three Blind Mice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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