When do you say, "Enough is enough?"

[connda]

If I'm forced to buy a Thai health insurance policy for 40k/400k THB coverage that I don't need, or if I'm force to purchase out-patient coverage in addition to the inpatient coverage I already have that is at least 20 times more than Thai the mandated Thai inpatient coverage (and I don't need that out-patient coverage as I can easily cover the expenses myself) - then I'll say, "Enough!"  it will be time to leave.

[gaviny]

If I'm forced to buy a Thai health insurance policy for 40k/400k THB coverage that I don't need, or if I'm force to purchase out-patient coverage in addition to the inpatient coverage I already have that is at least 20 times more than Thai the mandated Thai inpatient coverage (and I don't need that out-patient coverage as I can easily cover the expenses myself) - then I'll say, "Enough!"  it will be time to leave.

So who's forcing you ,is that a prerequisite to get a visa ?

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[Sheryl]

It is expected to become a pre-requisite for O-A visa in future. Not mentioned for extensions of stay.

[gaviny]

It is expected to become a pre-requisite for O-A visa in future. Not mentioned for extensions of stay.

Hmm I hope so, I will be on my 3rd extension in Feb even though I only spend 6 months of the year here in 2 X 3 Months duration , I take out travellers insurance in Oz , hopefully that will suffice.

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[marcusarelus]

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

It is expected to become a pre-requisite for O-A visa in future. Not mentioned for extensions of stay.

Don't you have to get an O-A before you can start getting extensions in the case of a new retiree? 

[KhunFred]

It is PAST time to leave. It is insanely obvious that they want Chinese high-rollers and millionaires who could live anywhere.

[overherebc]

50 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:

Don't you have to get an O-A before you can start getting extensions in the case of a new retiree? 

O and O-A Visas are not the same.

O you can get here prior to extension.

O-A you can only get in your own country or where you have resident status.

[Jingthing]

O and O-A Visas are not the same.
O you can get here prior to extension.
O-A you can only get in your own country or where you have resident status.

I started with an O not OA from my home country.

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[Anythingleft?]

O and O-A Visas are not the same.
O you can get here prior to extension.
O-A you can only get in your own country or where you have resident status.

Not that it will matter, if they ask for it in one instance then all, and any other, long term visa types will get the same treatment surely........

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[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, Anythingleft? said:

Not that it will matter, if they ask for it in one instance then all, and any other, long term visa types will get the same treatment surely........

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Not at all surely.

Again, O-A visas, O visas, and annual extensions are DIFFERENT things.

[brewsterbudgen]

Surely someone affected by this would have to make the decision not to come to Thailand before applying for the OA visa? Anyone already here is not affected.

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[Anythingleft?]

Not at all surely.
Again, O-A visas, O visas, and annual extensions are DIFFERENT things.

Same same but different in my opinion, they would not hit one long term visa individually, what would be the point in that......
I understand that they are all different but they all have the same effect, to stay here for longer periods...

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[BritTim]

1 hour ago, Anythingleft? said:

Not that it will matter, if they ask for it in one instance then all, and any other, long term visa types will get the same treatment surely........

The report is that it will apply only to long stay visas. The Non O is not a long stay visa (even if many get it with the intention of later applying for an extension of their permission to stay).

[Anythingleft?]

The report is that it will apply only to long stay visas. The Non O is not a long stay visa (even if many get it with the intention of later applying for an extension of their permission to stay).

So surely that would be one of the first loopholes to be abused when possible and ultimately reviewed and amended?.... I just dont see it stopping at the first thinking and will roll out to all long stay scenarios after the initial format has been ironed out...

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[arithai12]

It's only a proposal. We don't know anything about the formulation, whether/when it will be implemented and who it will affect.

How about waiting for that before jumping up and down?

 

 

[BritTim]

1 minute ago, Anythingleft? said:

So surely that would be one of the first loopholes to be abused when possible and ultimately reviewed and amended?.... I just dont see it stopping at the first thinking and will roll out to all long stay scenarios after the initial format has been ironed out...

That may be the case. However, those making the decisions on immigration matters are not the same as those making decisions on visas. The more sympathetic senior officials will not want to create a major immediate problem for a significant number of elderly retirees who have been 20 years in Thailand but could not reasonably get insurance. The rules for extensions may not change. Time will tell.

[janclaes47]

2 hours ago, KhunFred said:

It is PAST time to leave. It is insanely obvious that they want Chinese high-rollers and millionaires who could live anywhere.

You can't blame them that they aren't looking for the cheap charlie brigade that needs to start a gofundme to buy antibiotics when they have a tooth infection

[farangx]

3 hours ago, Anythingleft? said:

So surely that would be one of the first loopholes to be abused when possible and ultimately reviewed and amended?.... I just dont see it stopping at the first thinking and will roll out to all long stay scenarios after the initial format has been ironed out...
 

Insurance can be required for long term but not long stay. Requiring insurance for long stay and not long term would not make sense.  It is better for TI that long stay do not require insurance.

 

Edited December 24, 2018 by farangx

[fforest1]

3 hours ago, janclaes47 said:

You can't blame them that they aren't looking for the cheap charlie brigade that needs to start a gofundme to buy antibiotics when they have a tooth infection

The problem with high rollers is there is a very limited supply of them and just about every country wants them....

 

Most of the richest people in the world got were they are by serving the needs of the average Joe.....Bill Gates got rich off selling software to average people and average businesses...Sam Walton and Henry Ford also got rich serving the average Joe....

 

Thailand has had a hugely successful tourism industry because of average people... It has not come from high rollers.... 

 

Kicking the average Joes out of Thailand will have dire consequences for Thailand.....There just will not enough high rollers to take up the slack.... 

Edited December 24, 2018 by fforest1

[rumak]

4 hours ago, arithai12 said:

It's only a proposal. We don't know anything about the formulation, whether/when it will be implemented and who it will affect.

How about waiting for that before jumping up and down?

 

 

jumping to conclusions and then suppositions and then.and then....... is about all the exercise many of our esteemed members get 

[JLCrab]

1 hour ago, rumak said:

5 hours ago, arithai12 said:

It's only a proposal. We don't know anything about the formulation, whether/when it will be implemented and who it will affect.

How about waiting for that before jumping up and down?

jumping to conclusions and then suppositions and then.and then....... is about all the exercise many of our esteemed members get 

Sure but this way we get the usual suspects to chime as to what either MoFA or Immigration should do, or ought to do, or why not do, or a better way to do this would be, or don't they realize?, etc., which makes for great holiday shut-down reading.

Edited December 24, 2018 by JLCrab

[lamyai3]

7 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Surely someone affected by this would have to make the decision not to come to Thailand before applying for the OA visa? Anyone already here is not affected.

I wonder how this would work with future non O/A applicants when it came to the time of applying for extensions. If they're processed on the same basis as existing extensions which don't require proof of insurance, what's to stop someone taking out a policy for the purposes of obtaining the initial visa, and then allowing it to lapse once they're in the country? 

Edited December 24, 2018 by lamyai3

[JLCrab]

15 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

I wonder how this would work

In typing class they used to use: "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog"

 

We could have: "The quick clever farang outwits the lazy plodding slow-witted Thai official."

[luckyluke]

Don't want to "fight" anymore,

tired, lazy, old.

I promised my wife yesterday ( Christmas Eve ) I will use all what is possible in Thailand, to be able to stay here.

This include bribery if necessary.

So no enough is enough for me.

Not particularly proud of it.

Edited December 24, 2018 by luckyluke

[bkk6060]

Then leave.

No one cares why announce it on here?

[TSF]

1 hour ago, lamyai3 said:

I wonder how this would work with future non O/A applicants when it came to the time of applying for extensions. If they're processed on the same basis as existing extensions which don't require proof of insurance, what's to stop someone taking out a policy for the purposes of obtaining the initial visa, and then allowing it to lapse once they're in the country? 

That's it, if this becomes a regulation then people will find ways to get around it.

[ubonjoe]

This subject has been discussed in this closed topic where I posted a link to the insurance for a Non-OX visa.

It was closed after after topic was posted in the news.

No need for another topic discussing the same thing.

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