Retirement Visa to Marriage Visa

[spiroinusa1]

Started with NON-OA then to NON- Re visa 12 years ago. Got married 12 years ago but kept retirement visa (like many of us). Have marriage Certificate and Registration of Marriage which states regarding divorce...letter of certification issued by Consulate-General of U.S.A , Chiang mai dated Nov 21 2006 translated into Thai, seen at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs the legalization No.05----------dated Nov. 24,2006. Got married on 27th. Question? I present Originals and copies to Immigration regarding marriage with the above statement on the Registration. Do I have to do anything with Ministry of Foreign Affairs again or any thing else regarding Marriage Registration, divorce papers etc. since it was done when I got married.. Have everything else.

[lopburi3]

Your marriage certificate and wife will be the requirements on that matter from immigration (you are asking about extensions of stay?).  It is marriages from outside Thailand that require additional steps.  

[ubonjoe]

If you got married here only your marriage certificate (Kor Ror 3) and the Kor Ror 2 marriage registry is needed.

Some immigration offices want a print out of the Kor Ror 2 done recently at an Amphote to prove your still are married.

[lopburi3]

Forgot about the KR2 - never received when I married and immigration did not require when I was doing marriage extensions.  Now many seem to require updated copy to help confirm marriage is still valid.  It is basically the text portion that officer fills out when getting married.

[Kwasaki]

3 hours ago, spiroinusa1 said:

I present Originals and copies to Immigration regarding marriage with the above statement on the Registration. 

It's not a marriage visa changing retirement extension to marriage extension when applying for 1 year renewal of stay,

Take all the marriage papers and copy's on your first application. 

 

Immigration prefers you to go about 1 month before or under to re-apply so in my case :-

     

       Sukhothai immigration check list for renewal of

    1 year extension for temporary stay for marriage as of 2019.

  

 1. I fill out 2 TM7 application forms by hand & put contact phone  

number & and sign both sides of TM7 forms.

 

2. Affix late Colour Photos 4 x 6 cm to each TM7 form.

 

3. I take my original passport with at least 12 months validation with   

   the original TM6 arrival/departure card and 90 day notification 

   slip kept with passport. 

  

4. Take 2 colour photocopy’s of passport page showing your photo  

   in Colour and the passport number on A4 paper.  

  

5. Take 2 photocopy’s of passport pages with last entry date into   

 Thailand along with the adjoining page in passport on A4 paper.

           

6. Take 2 photocopy’s of all other passport stamped pages on A4 paper.          

   

7. Take 2 photocopy’s TM6 arrival/departure card with number on A4 paper.

   

8. Take 2 photocopy’s of the Bank passbook account details in applicants 

   sole name also Bank passbook page showing not less than 

   400,000 baht deposited for no less than a two month period prior to  

   renewal of 1 year application date on A4 paper.

 

9. Arrange to have a Letter from the Bank before going, confirming the  

   amount of 400,000 bht has been deposited in the account of applicant     

   for the two month required  period, make sure they sign in blue pen  

   and update the Bank book on the day. take an A4 copy of letter.   

 

10. Take original Thai wife I.D. card and 2 photocopy’s of Thai

    wife I.D. card with  both sides of card shown on A4 paper.    

    

11. Take original Thai wife blue House registration book and 2 photocopy’s  

    of Thai wife blue House registration book on A4 paper.

      

12. Take original Khor Ror 3 Official Thai marriage Certificate and 2 

    Photocopy’s of each side front & back on A4 paper. 

 

13. Take original part of Khor Ror 2 Official Thai marriage Certificate    

    and 2 Photocopy’s of each side front & back on A4 paper. 

 

14. Take 8 printed photos:- 4 late colour photos of couple inside rooms of   

    the house and 4 late colour photos of couple outside by house.      

    Get 2 of each to shown on top half of 16 No. A4 photocopy paper.

                    

15. Take 2 photocopy’s of diagram area map showing location of your home   

    address on A4 paper & write Google map coordinates on map.   

         

  Present TM7 forms and all Photocopies to immigration officer

  for checking.

  They will then rubber stamp a box section in blue on the papers to 

  where you sign with your signature and also write your full

  name in capital letters.

 

16.  Fill out and sign & write full name on 2 forms applying for extension    

     permit acknowledgement given by officer in Immigration office.  

 

17.  Also another 2 forms to fill out & sign & write full name   

     on acknowledgement form of overstay.

 

18.  Sign & write full name on 2 house map location forms.

 

19.  While sitting in front of Immigration officer they will take a  

     computer picture of you.

 

20.  Pay cash fee as of now 1,900 bht on request and keep receipt for

     when returning to have 1 year extension stamped in passport.  

 

21.  Wait until passport is returned to you and stamped with the date

     you are to return to the office.

 

 

Just in case lol :- l take Yellow house + Birth certificate + The Khor Ror 3 translation.

I also usually make a donation to save the rain forest at this time of year.

[billd766]

4 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

It's not a marriage visa changing retirement extension to marriage extension when applying for 1 year renewal of stay,

Take all the marriage papers and copy's on your first application. 

 

Immigration prefers you to go about 1 month before or under to re-apply so in my case :-

     

       Sukhothai immigration check list for renewal of

    1 year extension for temporary stay for marriage as of 2019.

  

 1. I fill out 2 TM7 application forms by hand & put contact phone  

number & and sign both sides of TM7 forms.

 

2. Affix late Colour Photos 4 x 6 cm to each TM7 form.

 

3. I take my original passport with at least 12 months validation with   

   the original TM6 arrival/departure card and 90 day notification 

   slip kept with passport. 

  

4. Take 2 colour photocopy’s of passport page showing your photo  

   in Colour and the passport number on A4 paper.  

  

5. Take 2 photocopy’s of passport pages with last entry date into   

 Thailand along with the adjoining page in passport on A4 paper.

           

6. Take 2 photocopy’s of all other passport stamped pages on A4 paper.          

   

7. Take 2 photocopy’s TM6 arrival/departure card with number on A4 paper.

   

8. Take 2 photocopy’s of the Bank passbook account details in applicants 

   sole name also Bank passbook page showing not less than 

   400,000 baht deposited for no less than a two month period prior to  

   renewal of 1 year application date on A4 paper.

 

9. Arrange to have a Letter from the Bank before going, confirming the  

   amount of 400,000 bht has been deposited in the account of applicant     

   for the two month required  period, make sure they sign in blue pen  

   and update the Bank book on the day. take an A4 copy of letter.   

 

10. Take original Thai wife I.D. card and 2 photocopy’s of Thai

    wife I.D. card with  both sides of card shown on A4 paper.    

    

11. Take original Thai wife blue House registration book and 2 photocopy’s  

    of Thai wife blue House registration book on A4 paper.

      

12. Take original Khor Ror 3 Official Thai marriage Certificate and 2 

    Photocopy’s of each side front & back on A4 paper. 

 

13. Take original part of Khor Ror 2 Official Thai marriage Certificate    

    and 2 Photocopy’s of each side front & back on A4 paper. 

 

14. Take 8 printed photos:- 4 late colour photos of couple inside rooms of   

    the house and 4 late colour photos of couple outside by house.      

    Get 2 of each to shown on top half of 16 No. A4 photocopy paper.

                    

15. Take 2 photocopy’s of diagram area map showing location of your home   

    address on A4 paper & write Google map coordinates on map.   

         

  Present TM7 forms and all Photocopies to immigration officer

  for checking.

  They will then rubber stamp a box section in blue on the papers to 

  where you sign with your signature and also write your full

  name in capital letters.

 

16.  Fill out and sign & write full name on 2 forms applying for extension    

     permit acknowledgement given by officer in Immigration office.  

 

17.  Also another 2 forms to fill out & sign & write full name   

     on acknowledgement form of overstay.

 

18.  Sign & write full name on 2 house map location forms.

 

19.  While sitting in front of Immigration officer they will take a  

     computer picture of you.

 

20.  Pay cash fee as of now 1,900 bht on request and keep receipt for

     when returning to have 1 year extension stamped in passport.  

 

21.  Wait until passport is returned to you and stamped with the date

     you are to return to the office.

 

 

Just in case lol :- l take Yellow house + Birth certificate + The Khor Ror 3 translation.

 

 

One small question.

 

Are all the printouts on one side of the page only or can it be double sided?

[Kwasaki]

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

One small question.

 

Are all the printouts on one side of the page only or can it be double sided?

No.13.  The marriage Khor Ror 2 is the only one you need to do 2 photocopy's of with front and back Bill. 

[DPGumbypgh]

What is the "Kor Ror 2 marriage registry" ?

[billd766]

12 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

No.13.  The marriage Khor Ror 2 is the only one you need to do 2 photocopy's of with front and back Bill. 

Thank you.

[ubonjoe]

27 minutes ago, DPGumbypgh said:

What is the "Kor Ror 2 marriage registry" ?

It is the official doucment for the marriage registration.

It has the couples names, birth dates. ID/passport numbers, names of the witnesses and the official that approved the marriage registration.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Depending on what Immigration ultimately says, perhaps in January, on the future requirements for proving monthly income for Americans, Brits, Aussies and Danes, I suspect there may well be a lot of folks, myself included, planning to convert from retirement extensions to marriage extensions in the year ahead.

 

I meet the 65K income threshhold for monthly income and can document it with official bank and such statements. But I have no need or reason to be importing that much money into a Thai bank account on a monthly basis, if that's what Immigration ultimately ends up requiring as a way of proving monthly income.

 

So if it comes down instead to a deposits choice between putting 800K in a Thai bank for a retirement extension or 400K in a Thai bank for a marriage extension, I guess I'll be doing the 400K for a marriage extension. Again, depending on what Immigration ultimately says about proving monthly income in the absence of an Embassy income affidavit.

 

[OJAS]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

It's not a marriage visa changing retirement extension to marriage extension when applying for 1 year renewal of stay,

Take all the marriage papers and copy's on your first application. 

 

Immigration prefers you to go about 1 month before or under to re-apply so in my case :-

     

       Sukhothai immigration check list for renewal of

    1 year extension for temporary stay for marriage as of 2019.

  

 1. I fill out 2 TM7 application forms by hand & put contact phone  

number & and sign both sides of TM7 forms.

 

2. Affix late Colour Photos 4 x 6 cm to each TM7 form.

 

3. I take my original passport with at least 12 months validation with   

   the original TM6 arrival/departure card and 90 day notification 

   slip kept with passport. 

  

4. Take 2 colour photocopy’s of passport page showing your photo  

   in Colour and the passport number on A4 paper.  

  

5. Take 2 photocopy’s of passport pages with last entry date into   

 Thailand along with the adjoining page in passport on A4 paper.

           

6. Take 2 photocopy’s of all other passport stamped pages on A4 paper.          

   

7. Take 2 photocopy’s TM6 arrival/departure card with number on A4 paper.

   

8. Take 2 photocopy’s of the Bank passbook account details in applicants 

   sole name also Bank passbook page showing not less than 

   400,000 baht deposited for no less than a two month period prior to  

   renewal of 1 year application date on A4 paper.

 

9. Arrange to have a Letter from the Bank before going, confirming the  

   amount of 400,000 bht has been deposited in the account of applicant     

   for the two month required  period, make sure they sign in blue pen  

   and update the Bank book on the day. take an A4 copy of letter.   

 

10. Take original Thai wife I.D. card and 2 photocopy’s of Thai

    wife I.D. card with  both sides of card shown on A4 paper.    

    

11. Take original Thai wife blue House registration book and 2 photocopy’s  

    of Thai wife blue House registration book on A4 paper.

      

12. Take original Khor Ror 3 Official Thai marriage Certificate and 2 

    Photocopy’s of each side front & back on A4 paper. 

 

13. Take original part of Khor Ror 2 Official Thai marriage Certificate    

    and 2 Photocopy’s of each side front & back on A4 paper. 

 

14. Take 8 printed photos:- 4 late colour photos of couple inside rooms of   

    the house and 4 late colour photos of couple outside by house.      

    Get 2 of each to shown on top half of 16 No. A4 photocopy paper.

                    

15. Take 2 photocopy’s of diagram area map showing location of your home   

    address on A4 paper & write Google map coordinates on map.   

         

  Present TM7 forms and all Photocopies to immigration officer

  for checking.

  They will then rubber stamp a box section in blue on the papers to 

  where you sign with your signature and also write your full

  name in capital letters.

 

16.  Fill out and sign & write full name on 2 forms applying for extension    

     permit acknowledgement given by officer in Immigration office.  

 

17.  Also another 2 forms to fill out & sign & write full name   

     on acknowledgement form of overstay.

 

18.  Sign & write full name on 2 house map location forms.

 

19.  While sitting in front of Immigration officer they will take a  

     computer picture of you.

 

20.  Pay cash fee as of now 1,900 bht on request and keep receipt for

     when returning to have 1 year extension stamped in passport.  

 

21.  Wait until passport is returned to you and stamped with the date

     you are to return to the office.

 

 

Just in case lol :- l take Yellow house + Birth certificate + The Khor Ror 3 translation.

I also usually make a donation to save the rain forest at this time of year.

@spiroinusa1 - just beware that there may be (hopefully only) minor variations to this list in the case of your immigration office. For example, mine (Rayong) requires a witness to accompany you and your wife to the office in order to vouch for your marriage, together with duplicate copies of their ID card and blue housebook registration. If you could let us know which your particular immigration office is, maybe someone with experience of obtaining marriage extensions there could advise definitively on their requirements.

 

A couple of points of clarification regarding Kwasaki's helpful list:-

 

15 - the reason why a diagramatic location map of your home address is required is to facilitate your local office in performing the home visit which they usually undertake in connection with a marriage extension application. In the case of Rayong, your witness will also need to be present for this visit.

 

21 - what happens in the case of a marriage extension is that immigration offices initially issue an "under consideration" stamp (usually of 30 days) while the application is referred to the divisional HQ for final approval (unlike in the case of retirement extensions, local offices don't have the final say). That, incidentally, is why everything has to be submitted/copied in duplicate!

 

[bkk6060]

3 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

It's not a marriage visa changing retirement extension to marriage extension when applying for 1 year renewal of stay,

Take all the marriage papers and copy's on your first application. 

 

Immigration prefers you to go about 1 month before or under to re-apply so in my case :-

     

       Sukhothai immigration check list for renewal of

    1 year extension for temporary stay for marriage as of 2019.

  

 1. I fill out 2 TM7 application forms by hand & put contact phone  

number & and sign both sides of TM7 forms.

 

2. Affix late Colour Photos 4 x 6 cm to each TM7 form.

 

3. I take my original passport with at least 12 months validation with   

   the original TM6 arrival/departure card and 90 day notification 

   slip kept with passport. 

  

4. Take 2 colour photocopy’s of passport page showing your photo  

   in Colour and the passport number on A4 paper.  

  

5. Take 2 photocopy’s of passport pages with last entry date into   

 Thailand along with the adjoining page in passport on A4 paper.

           

6. Take 2 photocopy’s of all other passport stamped pages on A4 paper.          

   

7. Take 2 photocopy’s TM6 arrival/departure card with number on A4 paper.

   

8. Take 2 photocopy’s of the Bank passbook account details in applicants 

   sole name also Bank passbook page showing not less than 

   400,000 baht deposited for no less than a two month period prior to  

   renewal of 1 year application date on A4 paper.

 

9. Arrange to have a Letter from the Bank before going, confirming the  

   amount of 400,000 bht has been deposited in the account of applicant     

   for the two month required  period, make sure they sign in blue pen  

   and update the Bank book on the day. take an A4 copy of letter.   

 

10. Take original Thai wife I.D. card and 2 photocopy’s of Thai

    wife I.D. card with  both sides of card shown on A4 paper.    

    

11. Take original Thai wife blue House registration book and 2 photocopy’s  

    of Thai wife blue House registration book on A4 paper.

      

12. Take original Khor Ror 3 Official Thai marriage Certificate and 2 

    Photocopy’s of each side front & back on A4 paper. 

 

13. Take original part of Khor Ror 2 Official Thai marriage Certificate    

    and 2 Photocopy’s of each side front & back on A4 paper. 

 

14. Take 8 printed photos:- 4 late colour photos of couple inside rooms of   

    the house and 4 late colour photos of couple outside by house.      

    Get 2 of each to shown on top half of 16 No. A4 photocopy paper.

                    

15. Take 2 photocopy’s of diagram area map showing location of your home   

    address on A4 paper & write Google map coordinates on map.   

         

  Present TM7 forms and all Photocopies to immigration officer

  for checking.

  They will then rubber stamp a box section in blue on the papers to 

  where you sign with your signature and also write your full

  name in capital letters.

 

16.  Fill out and sign & write full name on 2 forms applying for extension    

     permit acknowledgement given by officer in Immigration office.  

 

17.  Also another 2 forms to fill out & sign & write full name   

     on acknowledgement form of overstay.

 

18.  Sign & write full name on 2 house map location forms.

 

19.  While sitting in front of Immigration officer they will take a  

     computer picture of you.

 

20.  Pay cash fee as of now 1,900 bht on request and keep receipt for

     when returning to have 1 year extension stamped in passport.  

 

21.  Wait until passport is returned to you and stamped with the date

     you are to return to the office.

 

 

Just in case lol :- l take Yellow house + Birth certificate + The Khor Ror 3 translation.

I also usually make a donation to save the rain forest at this time of year.

This among several other reasons is a great example of why I will never get married here.

But hey, good luck to the OP.  Hope he is smart and got a Pre-Nup..

[Kwasaki]

10 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

This among several other reasons is a great example of why I will never get married here.

But hey, good luck to the OP.  Hope he is smart and got a Pre-Nup..

Don't really know what your on about but you can still do a 1 year retired extension and still be married and save the hassle. 

The reason for the hassle as I see it is because there's too many scumbags marrying Thai ladies so they can stay, it's become a scam and a illegal activity which affects the good guys. 

[lopburi3]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

Don't really know what your on about but you can still do a 1 year retired extension and still be married and save the hassle. 

The reason for the hassle as I see it is because there's too many scumbags marrying Thai ladies so they can stay, it's become a scam and a illegal activity which affects the good guys. 

As said marriage is easy here and you can leave or stay on retirement (if over 50 and not working).  Marriage is suspect as some of the long stay foreigners (not just Farang) involved in illegal work will marry to make visa/stay easier but not actually have a personal relationship.

[jesimps]

15 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Don't really know what your on about but you can still do a 1 year retired extension and still be married and save the hassle. 

The reason for the hassle as I see it is because there's too many scumbags marrying Thai ladies so they can stay, it's become a scam and a illegal activity which affects the good guys. 

Which I'm sure the Thai ladies are very happy about. It's unethical. but I'm certain that us "Good guys" are the last thing on their mind.

[Kwasaki]

18 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Depending on what Immigration ultimately says, perhaps in January, on the future requirements for proving monthly income for Americans, Brits, Aussies and Danes, I suspect there may well be a lot of folks, myself included, planning to convert from retirement extensions to marriage extensions in the year ahead.

 

I meet the 65K income threshhold for monthly income and can document it with official bank and such statements. But I have no need or reason to be importing that much money into a Thai bank account on a monthly basis, if that's what Immigration ultimately ends up requiring as a way of proving monthly income.

 

So if it comes down instead to a deposits choice between putting 800K in a Thai bank for a retirement extension or 400K in a Thai bank for a marriage extension, I guess I'll be doing the 400K for a marriage extension. Again, depending on what Immigration ultimately says about proving monthly income in the absence of an Embassy income affidavit.

 

Sounds like you are OK in any eventuality but many I suspect are very worried about the situation so the agency way will be an option for them. 

That said everyone should be prepared for another requirement they may throw in too somewhere between my 1 to 21,  a copy of your Thai Health insurance, which will affect retire extensions too.

[NoshowJones]

On 12/26/2018 at 11:00 AM, ubonjoe said:

If you got married here only your marriage certificate (Kor Ror 3) and the Kor Ror 2 marriage registry is needed.

Some immigration offices want a print out of the Kor Ror 2 done recently at an Amphote to prove your still are married.

Can you still get the Marriage ME visa at Savvakanete with only the original marriage certificate and copy, or do you now require the the Kor Ror 2 also?

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Can you still get the Marriage ME visa at Savvakanete with only the original marriage certificate and copy, or do you now require the the Kor Ror 2 also?

The Kor Ror 2 is not required.

[NoshowJones]

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

The Kor Ror 2 is not required.

Thanks Joe.

[Baerboxer]

20 hours ago, OJAS said:

@spiroinusa1 - just beware that there may be (hopefully only) minor variations to this list in the case of your immigration office. For example, mine (Rayong) requires a witness to accompany you and your wife to the office in order to vouch for your marriage, together with duplicate copies of their ID card and blue housebook registration. If you could let us know which your particular immigration office is, maybe someone with experience of obtaining marriage extensions there could advise definitively on their requirements.

 

A couple of points of clarification regarding Kwasaki's helpful list:-

 

15 - the reason why a diagramatic location map of your home address is required is to facilitate your local office in performing the home visit which they usually undertake in connection with a marriage extension application. In the case of Rayong, your witness will also need to be present for this visit.

 

21 - what happens in the case of a marriage extension is that immigration offices initially issue an "under consideration" stamp (usually of 30 days) while the application is referred to the divisional HQ for final approval (unlike in the case of retirement extensions, local offices don't have the final say). That, incidentally, is why everything has to be submitted/copied in duplicate!

 

 

Regarding 21 - you may well be correct but I was always told by IO's that all marriage extension requests have to go to CW for approval by a committee. Hence the copies and the 30 day waiting list and the extra documentation requirements. 

For those that are eligible and able, the retirement extension option is much more expedient and IME preferred by IO's.

[lopburi3]

2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Regarding 21 - you may well be correct but I was always told by IO's that all marriage extension requests have to go to CW for approval by a committee. Hence the copies and the 30 day waiting list and the extra documentation requirements. 

For those that are eligible and able, the retirement extension option is much more expedient and IME preferred by IO's.

That was indeed the procedure prior to dividing country into divisions and having immigration in almost all provinces.  Retirement I believe is still preferred as it is a local decision within office so less chance of a 'Dot Your I's And Cross Your T's' issue.

[ubonjoe]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

Regarding 21 - you may well be correct but I was always told by IO's that all marriage extension requests have to go to CW for approval by a committee.

That was changed many years ago. They are now sent to the division headquarters for the region of the country where the office is located for approval.

All my extension applications (on my 11th one now) have been sent to division 4 that was located in Korat but is now in Khon Kaen.

[superal]

18 hours ago, lopburi3 said:

As said marriage is easy here and you can leave or stay on retirement (if over 50 and not working).  Marriage is suspect as some of the long stay foreigners (not just Farang) involved in illegal work will marry to make visa/stay easier but not actually have a personal relationship.

and the 21 points shown have to be repeated every year ?  Quite a work up for those not good with paperwork . Finally would an agent be able to help ? Maybe easier to become a Thai citizen ? 

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, superal said:

and the 21 points shown have to be repeated every year ? 

Some of the 21 he listed could of been consolidated into one. Not really that hard to do. No need for an agent to do it. 

[sometimewoodworker]

23 hours ago, OJAS said:

15 - the reason why a diagramatic location map of your home address is required is to facilitate your local office in performing the home visit which they usually undertake in connection with a marriage extension application.

They may not actually visit your home, in my case we met them for lunch with a neighbour in a small restaurant in the local town while they were on their way to another appointment.

[OJAS]

1 hour ago, sometimewoodworker said:

They may not actually visit your home

I have been assured by someone who has been through the marriage extension process at Rayong that they most certainly do in the case of that particular office. And not just the first year but also for each subsequent application.

[JackThompson]

On 12/26/2018 at 5:19 PM, Kwasaki said:

The reason for the hassle as I see it is because there's too many scumbags marrying Thai ladies so they can stay, it's become a scam and a illegal activity which affects the good guys. 

No - just another excuse to drive up agent-laundered money, like every other so-called "crackdown" in recent memory.  They don't care if those being extorted are "good" or "bad" or have the proper income or bank-money, etc - just as long as they are paying extra.

 

5 hours ago, OJAS said:

I have been assured by someone who has been through the marriage extension process at Rayong that they most certainly do in the case of that particular office. And not just the first year but also for each subsequent application.

Yes - part of the "treatment" given, for not using an agent - at several offices.  Though, to be fair, that is the only extra-hurdle that actually has some merit, in terms of reducing potential fraud.  Much of the rest seems to be primarily aimed to humiliate the applicant and his wife.

[Kwasaki]

11 hours ago, JackThompson said:

Much of the rest seems to be primarily aimed to humiliate the applicant and his wife.

Maybe Rayong is a problem area or just the immigration office making up their own rules.

We have never been humiliated at the Masot immigration office and for the first time at our thankfully nearer new Sukhothai imm office.

 

They always been helpful because I have found they always have something added every year which has come as a directive of their head office and they need to get the copy of the application right which they send to the head office for checking.

[Kwasaki]

21 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

The Kor Ror 2 is not required.

I take it with me anyway because it was wanted the first time.

I take many other things too among them my yellow book that a copy of was taken by them the first time I got it.

It was never required until 2018 when they took another copy of it.

 

I even take a copy of the kitchen sink in one of the pictures of my wife and I within the house. ????