Such a Hairy Guy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 We are on OA retirement visa which was is due in January of this year. However we came back from a short stay from our home country in August and unfortunately the immigration official at BKK stamped us back in with a non-RE but dated it for renewal in January 23, 2019!?! We did not notice at the time but was explained to us by our local immigration office today. We reported immediately to our local immigration office n they said nothing about it at the time. We further reported for our 90 days reporting with no problem. Now our local office is telling us to go back to the BKK office to see if they can fix it. It looks like we will have to go out of the country to renew our tourist visa(?) the go to our local office to renew our O/A... Any words of wisdom from anyone who went through something similar? Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 OK, it's not entierly clear what's gone wrong, but if you do indeed have a stamp that allows you to stay until Jan 23 2019 you are not on overstay. Where are you right now? I suspect a trip to Bangkok is in order, they should be able to fix the issue for free. If possible please post photos of the relevant stamps and visa (obscure any personal details). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Such a Hairy Guy Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 This is the note from the immigration office wrote on our behalf. Unfortunately I can’t read ThaiSent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 What office is telling you that you need to go to Bangkok to have the error corrected. Any immigration office can do it. 36 minutes ago, Such a Hairy Guy said: We are on OA retirement visa which was is due in January of this year. What do you mean? Are your OA visas expiring this month? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bullie Posted January 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2019 " Any words of wisdom from anyone who went through something similar" . Firstly, it can be corrected easily. Secondly: ALWAYS check any stamp, change or visa that is put in your passport, and have it immediately corrected if wrong. After all, even Thai immigration officers, in all their infallibility, are merely human.... 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Such a Hairy Guy Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 What office is telling you that you need to go to Bangkok to have the error corrected. Any immigration office can do it. What do you mean? Are your OA visas expiring this month?Ratchaburi. It was set to expire in June 01. But last January when we came back from Myanmar from a trip, we reported back to immigration office and they renewed our 1 year to extend to this January. We’ve been reporting our 90 days ever since with no problems. I have a strong feeling they made a mistake by renewing the 1 year last January and is now causing all these problems. Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Such a Hairy Guy Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) Looking at the stamps, I think the Ratchaburi officer scratched the stamps from the airport m overwrote the initial dates Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Edited January 4, 2019 by ubonjoe rotated image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evermaat Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Can you post a photo of all the relevant stamps inside the passport: O/A visa, extension [if any], entry stamps [last 2 or 3 if possible]. Black/Blur out any sensitive info like names, visa #. Also the country of the passport is helpful. And I concur with @Bullie, 100% check of passport stamp when you enter/reenter or do anything that requires an entry into your passport is strongly advised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4evermaat Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) Also need photo of the non-o-a visa... right-side up please. Do you know when the original non-o/a expires? Edit: But based the second stamp, you should be good to go until 26 Aug 2019. I think is the one that counts. If you live near a border, it might be easier to just exit and re-enter (depending on when the o-a expires) Edited January 4, 2019 by 4evermaat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimewoodworker Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) is that (Non-RE) the stamp for a non re-entry permit? then it would probably be incorrect IF the Non-OA visa was valid on the 26th August 2018 the permission to stay is now correct the mistake could be in the writing of the VISA CLASS as Non-Re instead of Non-O-A the initial stamp was for a VE 30 days, where was the correction to a 365 day permission made Edited January 4, 2019 by sometimewoodworker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Side Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) Looks to me like Ratchaburi have corrected the error and you are OK until 26th August 19 Edited January 4, 2019 by Justin Side 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sometimewoodworker Posted January 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, 4evermaat said: Also the country of the passport is helpful. does the maple leaf help????? 2 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Yup, from the stamps looks like you're good. As a final check please post an image of your actual visa (redact any personal data). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uwe_rayong Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 In August 2018 did you apply for a reentry permit before you left Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritTim Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 As others have said, it appears as though you should be OK. The stamp in your passport has been corrected. Immigration was suggesting you go to Bangkok because that is the only place the dates in the immigration computer can be corrected. However, looking at the image you posted, I am confused, and hope someone can point out why what I am seeing is not reality. It looks as though there are two passports with the same passport number and page number but with different stamps. It is driving me crazy being unable to figure out what is really going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Such a Hairy Guy Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 As others have said, it appears as though you should be OK. The stamp in your passport has been corrected. Immigration was suggesting you go to Bangkok because that is the only place the dates in the immigration computer can be corrected. However, looking at the image you posted, I am confused, and hope someone can point out why what I am seeing is not reality. It looks as though there are two passports with the same passport number and page number but with different stamps. It is driving me crazy being unable to figure out what is really going on.Yes it is 2 passport n we can’t figure out why they are one day apart since we came back at the same timeSent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, BritTim said: However, looking at the image you posted, I am confused, and hope someone can point out why what I am seeing is not reality. It looks as though there are two passports with the same passport number and page number but with different stamps. It is driving me crazy being unable to figure out what is really going on. He said "we", so i assume he is talking about his wife and him, thus two passports. But the one passport numbers ends with a 5 and the other with a 7, so it's not the same @Such a Hairy Guy Actually the stamps that you posted look fine. Obviously the one passport was stamped in as "visa exempt" at first and then corrected, but since there is no notice next to the stamp to me this looks like it was done by the IO at the airport. So where did they change the date on this stamp? At the airport or at an immigration office, if so at which? 2 hours ago, Such a Hairy Guy said: but dated it for renewal in January 23, 2019 Where does it say something like that? 22 minutes ago, Such a Hairy Guy said: Yes it is 2 passport n we can’t figure out why they are one day apart since we came back at the same time When exactly did you come back? Maybe at 23:59 and he changed the date stamp in between you two? Did you enter at the same counter with the same IO? If you used two different counters maybe one IO had his date wrong Edit: Most likely you used two different counters, because the "empty" entry stamps did also differ, one is stamp number S2265 and the other is S1961, so probably one IO did have his date wrong. Always check your stamps after having entered the country! Edited January 4, 2019 by jackdd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Colabamumbai Posted January 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said: does the maple leaf help????? It always helps, everywhere. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaikahuna Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 What I am not seeing is a re entry permit. 1. Do you have one? 2. Did you put that re entry permit number on the TM 6 card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, thaikahuna said: What I am not seeing is a re entry permit. 1. Do you have one? 2. Did you put that re entry permit number on the TM 6 card? He does not need a re-entry permit since apparently his visa is still valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, thaikahuna said: What I am not seeing is a re entry permit. 1. Do you have one? 2. Did you put that re entry permit number on the TM 6 card? OA visa is multiple entry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattd Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: He does not need a re-entry permit since apparently his visa is still valid. 1 minute ago, jackdd said: OA visa is multiple entry All 100% agreed, but what is confusing is why two different IO's have written NON-RE as the visa class on both passports (second one was changed to this) as it should read NON-OA, as it does on the other stamp visible. And very strange why the entry dates are not the same, as the OP states they entered on the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Such a Hairy Guy said: It looks like we will have to go out of the country to renew our tourist visa(?) the go to our local office to renew our O/A... It's really difficult to make sense of all this. If you have an actual valid O-A visa, why are you talking about renewing a tourist visa and then renewing your O-A? Immigrations doesn't renew visas ... do you mean you have an extension of stay (not a visa) that needs to be renewed? 4 hours ago, Such a Hairy Guy said: We are on OA retirement visa which was is due in January of this year. Not sure what "was due in January" means. Due for what? Are you referring to this year as 2018 or 2019 since you use the past tense and does "due" mean when it was issued or when it expires or ?? 4 hours ago, Such a Hairy Guy said: dated it for renewal in January 23, 2019!?! Extension of stay renewal? Visas aren't renewable. Glad that some people think they can figure it out from the stamps. I hope the consensus that "you're OK " as things stand now is true. It's certainly possible immigrations was initially in error, but one wonders if you didn't contribute to it. Your explanation is more than a bit foggy. Edited January 4, 2019 by Suradit69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim7777 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 hours ago, uwe_rayong said: In August 2018 did you apply for a reentry permit before you left Thailand? That's exactly what I was thinking when I read the OP's post "did you get your re entry permit before flying back to Canada?" but I didn't want to post anything because I'm not 100% clear on what happened here. Although it sounds like if there was a mistake whatever happened occurred at the airport and it doesn't sound like the fault of any specific immigration office but I'm not really sure maybe he meant they made a mistake trying to fix the problem I'm not sure exactly what he meant and I actually did take time to read it although I didn't take a lot of time analyzing the issue either. I read it out of curiosity his title caught my attention. I never leave the country without first making absolutely sure my re entry permit is taken care of but I very rarely travel outside of Thailand anymore and when I do it's never for more than a week or two. I haven't left Thailand in two years so it's been a while for me. If he left back in August obviously that was a big contributing factor because if you don't stay on top of your own paperwork here you can really end up in a bind. Immigration can't read your mind you have to make your intentions very clear and be very careful and organized when preparing paperwork for immigration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipbcn Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Me and my wife have had O-A visa, before the first extension the IO when we entry to Thailand always stamp our passports "NON-OA", after the first extension the IO always stamp "NON-RE", Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogNo1 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 I don't see any problem here. We can't see page 9 of the top passport but it appears that the couple entered on their O-A visas on 23 Jan 2018 and were granted permission to stay until 22 Jan 2019. They then re-entered on 27 / 28 Aug 2018 and we're granted permission to stay until 26 / 27 Aug 2019. There is a one-day discrepancy but, in my opinion, it doesn't warrant fixing if the scratching out and changing of the date was done by the IO who admitted him/her. If it was done by a local officer, then the change to the computer record should be done by him/her and "shouldn't" require a trip to Bangkok. At any rate, only one passport seems to need attention. The other one is OK. BTW, I always check my stamps before leaving the IO's desk at the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovethailandelite Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) OK. The yellow post it note from his immigration office states his actual visa ended 30/4/18. He then entered Thailand on 27/8/18 and he had no re-entry permit or it could mean his second year FINISHED 20/4/18 with a reentry permit BUT he still entered with it and was stamped in for a further year (In either case he shouldn't of been it was a mistake).When he went (I assume for his 90 day report) this was picked up on and hence has been throw up. The post it note implies he needs to get a new visa. If this is correct and I fear it is, he has been on overstay since around the the last week of September allowing for a 30 day visa exempt entry. He is now over 90 days overstay. I have an idea where this may lead unfortunately. Edited January 4, 2019 by Lovethailandelite 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovethailandelite Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) I meant too add the actual translation as best as it can be from the post it note, because sometimes things don't translate exactly from Thai too English that we understand or would like it to be. Visa Non O-A finished 30/4/18 Come 27/8/18 Change Visa O-A the type of visa Edited January 4, 2019 by Lovethailandelite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Such a Hairy Guy Posted January 7, 2019 Author Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) UPDATE: Went to see an immigration lawyer today. According to their insight they said both the Ratchaburi and BKK Airport immigration made mistakes. Our Non-OA expired last may. but we have a stamp showing we can stay until Jan 22, 2019. Their best advice was to go to BKK airport and they felt that based on the many mistakes made they will cut us some slack. Maybe let us stay for another 30 to allow us to apply to a Non-O then do a conversion to a Non-OA. Since we have proof throughout and copies of all my 90 days reporting. Going to BKK airport tomorrow to see what immigration finally tell us. Thanks you for all your input BTW Edited January 7, 2019 by Such a Hairy Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 (edited) I just had my GF help me to read your post it note. It says: Your visa non-OA visa expired 30.04.2018 When you entered at 27.08.2018 you should have gotten a 30 day visa exempt What is very strange that it looks like that two different IOs (you still didn't answer this question) made the same "mistake" and thought your visa is still valid. One of them even giving you the (probably) correct 30 day visa exempt stamp and then changing it to the wrong one. Can you post all stamps in your passport starting from the OA visa? If what it says on the post it is true I doubt they would give you "another 30 days". I think one of these three things will happen: - They just let you keep your current permit of stay - They cancel your permit of stay directly because it was given wrongfully, which means you have to leave on this day - They give you a 7 days to leave the country stamp 25 minutes ago, Such a Hairy Guy said: apply to a Non-O then do a conversion to a Non-OA You can't convert a non-O to a non-OA Edited January 7, 2019 by jackdd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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