Thailand passes internet security law decried as 'cyber martial law'

[bizboi]

53 minutes ago, overherebc said:

I reckon if you're using a free VPN then your VPN supplier is selling your browsing history, how else would they make money.

If you're paying a monthly fee then it's more likely they're not, but, who knows.

If you use a VPN then google or whoever, google or whoever still sees what you're googling and uses it for their reasons etc.

... so they are selling it , but then again they're not!!

[DrTuner]

Well the good thing is the cyber security center's Windows 95 PCs will take 50000 years to analyze a single twitter post.

[bizboi]

1 hour ago, AhFarangJa said:

Not 100% sure, but I think that is already illegal here...........or is just downloading it that is illegal.......

...its certainly not illegal to re-enact it!!

[bizboi]

2 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

A murderer killing a citizen is not a threat to the junta, therefore not a priority. 

Someone voicing his opinion on social media, now that's a national security issue.

...exactly...and that view comes to Thailand straight from the Communist party of China!!

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

The new lead articles have two very different descriptions of the new law -- the first as overreaching and likely to be misused and abused by the government, and the second as merely emergency measures that could be taken if there was some kind of serious attack on the nation's tech infrastructure.

 

I have no idea which is the accurate version of what they've passed. But if the way the current or future governments intend to use the new law is anything remotely similar to the way they've abused and misused the current Computer Crimes Act that the junta previously enacted, then the fears of activists and privacy advocates here are probably entirely warranted.

 

[poohy]

2 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

That's illegal as well!

Since when and why are VPNs illegal?

[holy cow cm]

4 hours ago, boonrawdcnx said:

Only thing the new elected government under PM Thanathorn can do is to declare any laws invented and passed by this illegitimate government as illegal and scrap them all. Wipe out all legislation. passed by a government that came to power by illegal means.

 

 

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect

 

Seriously? This all falls under National Security. Anyone tries to touch or repeal it are relieved of position, arrested and put under trial for treason. How can you change or undo anything the junta has done if they have all under National Security? You can't. 

[overherebc]

35 minutes ago, bizboi said:

... so they are selling it , but then again they're not!!

That's a 100% maybe or not, I think.

[tilaceer]

3 hours ago, bender92 said:

My VPN says I am in california

Remember vpn uses ports on the gateway server that can easily be blocked.

They tolerate vpn but have specific legislation in regard to its use.

[Mavideol]

2 hours ago, moojar said:

I have actually much reduced my participation in Thailand forums since the last coup, and I certainly do not criticise anything that might come back to bite me.  So I will not say anything worth saying here either.  

 

I just want a peaceful existence in rural Thailand while I live out my "golden years".  Current policy: Thailand's politics is none of my business. 

some contradiction here, my understanding is by answering the post/thread you are already participating to which I agree is not criticising but participation

[Mavideol]

55 minutes ago, poohy said:

Since when and why are VPNs illegal?

if they are copying Chinese internet law, VPN's are illegal period, can not download the software in China, I went to Macau to download/activate mine, last here one of my friends downloaded it in Thailand but still not sure if legal or illegal

[JAG]

3 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

That's illegal as well!

Oh, I think living in California is legal - although there are many US citizens, of the more red-necked persuasion, who hold that the majority of people who do live there, particularly those with more dusky complections are "illegals".

 

Ah, I see what you mean; silly me, I sometimes am a bear of very little brain!

 

????

[JAG]

2 hours ago, AhFarangJa said:

Not 100% sure, but I think that is already illegal here...........or is just downloading it that is illegal.......

Next time you pass one of those roadside checkpoint tents why not stop and ask the coppers - that's if you can get them to look up from "pornhub" on their phones...

[NCC1701A]

3 hours ago, cyril sneer said:

how does this law affect regular people? can I still watch porn or will I be locked up?

i don't watch porn, I make it.

[ParadiseLost]

2 hours ago, smedly said:

The problem with Thailand is that actions rarely match claimed objectives, this makes them highly suspect and sinister or just blatant stupidity

 

Take your pick

c.) Both of the above.

[NCC1701A]

OK so how does this affect Thai Visa? Does TV hand over email and IP addresses?

[quandow]

4 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

That's illegal as well!

Grey area. From a former TV post:

What is a VPN?

(Virtual Private Network) A private network that is configured within a public network (a carrier's network or the Internet) in order to take advantage of the economies of scale and management facilities of large networks. VPNs are widely used by enterprises to create wide area networks (WANs) that span large geographic areas, to provide site-to-site connections to branch offices and to allow mobile users to dial up their company LANs.

Legality of VPN in Thailand. The computer crime act does not prohibit it but under certain sections it is indirectly covered and that is if it is used to bypass government blocks or for illegal activity it is illegal in that the activity is illegal but the technology is not.

[Jim7777]

4 hours ago, bender92 said:

My VPN says I am in california

Yeah I use VPN as well sometimes that can make it look like I’m in almost any major city in the United States and around the world because even now there are some websites that I can’t access from Thailand for whatever reason but when I use VPN it’s no problem I can access whatever I want with VPN and I don’t get that restricted access sign.  I can just open up whatever restricted website it is no problem.  It’s usually only one government website from my home city in the States for some reason but it doesn’t matter because VPN allows me to access any website I want.  As far as the Internet monitoring I don’t really care if the government is watching me I have nothing I want to hide, when you’re surfing the Internet or Social Media or whatever online I think everyone knows by now that there is no privacy anymore online and when you access certain websites especially Social Media you actually give up your expectation of privacy because if you post anything online anonymously or not everyone can see it and your IP address can be traced back to you.  Also VPN doesn’t really hide your real IP address if someone is really looking for who you really are hard enough.  That’s a common misconception that you can hide behind VPN, but it will at least fool your Internet browser into thinking that you’re somewhere else which allows us to access whatever websites we want regardless of restrictions.  

[randy723]

if the currant PM is elected you will see 99% of the Farangs leave this beautiful country

[randy723]

5 minutes ago, Jim7777 said:

Yeah I use VPN as well sometimes that can make it look like I’m in almost any major city in the United States and around the world because even now there are some websites that I can’t access from Thailand for whatever reason but when I use VPN it’s no problem I can access whatever I want with VPN and I don’t get that restricted access sign.  I can just open up whatever restricted website it is no problem.  It’s usually only one government website from my home city in the States for some reason but it doesn’t matter because VPN allows me to access any website I want.  As far as the Internet monitoring I don’t really care if the government is watching me I have nothing I want to hide, when you’re surfing the Internet or Social Media or whatever online I think everyone knows by now that there is no privacy anymore online and when you access certain websites especially Social Media you actually give up your expectation of privacy because if you post anything online anonymously or not everyone can see it and your IP address can be traced back to you.  Also VPN doesn’t really hide your real IP address if someone is really looking for who you really are hard enough.  That’s a common misconception that you can hide behind VPN, but it will at least fool your Internet browser into thinking that you’re somewhere else which allows us to access whatever websites we want regardless of restrictions.  

Yes I use VPN also because I like to play Texas holdem for play money and I changed to VPN when on Jan. 9th. Thailand blocked the poker site that I played on. 

[StevieAus]

3 hours ago, moojar said:

I have actually much reduced my participation in Thailand forums since the last coup, and I certainly do not criticise anything that might come back to bite me.  So I will not say anything worth saying here either.  

 

I just want a peaceful existence in rural Thailand while I live out my "golden years".  Current policy: Thailand's politics is none of my business. 

Here Here, especially as we cannot vote and whatever your views it isn’t going to change anything so why worry.

[StevieAus]

5 minutes ago, randy723 said:

if the currant PM is elected you will see 99% of the Farangs leave this beautiful country

Without straining my brain I can think of ten or more who will still be here

Will be great service at Immigration if you are correct.

[Morch]

6 minutes ago, randy723 said:

if the currant PM is elected you will see 99% of the Farangs leave this beautiful country

 

Guess I'm a 1%er even without being into big bikes.

But hey....the sky is falling.

[trainman34014]

15 minutes ago, randy723 said:

if the currant PM is elected you will see 99% of the Farangs leave this beautiful country

Bullshit; 10-15% at most and even then if they tighten up the long term Visa laws more than they already have.

[SweetStickyRice]

Oh, well that explains why I couldn't go onto Pornhub.

[johng]

i don't watch porn, I make it.

But obviously make it with your eyes closed [emoji12]

[kiwikeith]

11 hours ago, Prissana Pescud said:

What is new? All totalitarian societies do this. What has changed?

 I love Thailand, I wish the rulers of this country would do the same.

Nothing new at all.

I replaced an android phone with an Apple a few months ago and did a data transfer using an app.

My new apple received the data from the android ok.

Not only that but the apple phone over the next 24 hours filled up my contacts list with people I had known years ago and some that had died, this info was not on my old phone but the Apple put just about every person I had called over the years into my contacts list, from dead phones and simms from Thailand and NZ.

 

So big Brother is watching you and stores your info in the big server, it is able to cross reference and link numbers by comparing them to others you had called in the past, if you put a new sim in your phone and started calling old friends it would have you sorted in a very short time.

 

Nothing to worry about here , just take care out there and stay clean.

[kiwikeith]

1 hour ago, trainman34014 said:

Bullshit; 10-15% at most and even then if they tighten up the long term Visa laws more than they already have.

Funny you should say that, I an In Nz for a few months and just got the news from the local watering hole.

many of my long time friends are looking to go elsewhere due to the new visa requirements on income.

Many have been paying the agent fee but will not be able to do this in the future.

Because of this I would hazard a guess as to the future outcome, that would be that the agents will be disgruntled and maybe this could bring about a bit of anger internally and may see a change in the rules, Maybe.

[fouryesrs]

11 hours ago, Prissana Pescud said:

What is new? All totalitarian societies do this. What has changed?

 I love Thailand, I wish the rulers of this country would do the same.

Well u say it right : totalitarian society.. I want to add: with a corrupt force...a developing country ( third world ) ...big parts of society are run by criminal mafia gangs with roots within the government...every few years a violent coup...not a real social security system.....etc..etc...no wonder this cyber laws it fits the picture well...the question...who in the world wanna spend more than 24 hours in a place like this..????? 

[fouryesrs]

6 hours ago, Bantex said:

Watch the money you are required to keep in your bank account dissolve before eyes as they monitor and collect your online banking details and passwords before stealing it allegedly legally by stating you are a cyber criminal without the need of courts or proof.

sctualy one of my business associate lost several million bhat from his account that way...but not because someone hacked his account just because he critisised the king ...