rooster59 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Canada approves Huawei extradition proceedings, China seethes By David Ljunggren FILE PHOTO: Meng Wanzhou, Executive Board Director of the Chinese technology giant Huawei, attends a session of the VTB Capital Investment Forum "Russia Calling!" in Moscow, Russia October 2, 2014. REUTERS/Alexander Bibik/File Photo OTTAWA (Reuters) - The Canadian government, as expected, on Friday approved extradition proceedings against the chief financial officer of Huawei Technologies Co Ltd, prompting a furious reaction from China. Meng Wanzhou, the daughter of Huawei's founder, was detained in Vancouver last December and is under house arrest. In late January the U.S. Justice Department charged Meng and Huawei with conspiring to violate U.S. sanctions on Iran. Meng will appear in a Vancouver court at 10 a.m. Pacific time (1800 GMT) on March 6, when a date will be set for her extradition hearing. "Today, department of Justice Canada officials issued an authority to proceed, formally commencing an extradition process in the case of Ms. Meng Wanzhou," the government said in a statement. China, whose relations with Canada have deteriorated badly over the affair, denounced the decision and repeated previous demands for Meng's release. Legal experts had predicted the Liberal government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau would give the go-ahead for extradition proceedings, given the close judicial relationship between Canada and the United States. It could be years though before Meng is ever sent to the United States, since Canada's slow-moving justice system allows many decisions to be appealed. A final decision will likely come down to the federal justice minister, who will face the choice of angering the United States by rejecting the extradition bid, or China by accepting it. Professor Wesley Wark of the University of Ottawa's Graduate School of Public and International Affairs said "the Canadians will take a beating throughout this whole process" from China. "I suspect the Trudeau government is desperately hoping that the Americans reach a deal with the Chinese," he said by phone. U.S. President Donald Trump told Reuters in December he would intervene if it served national security interests or helped close a trade deal with China, prompting Ottawa to stress the extradition process should not be politicized. Last week Trump played down the idea of dropping the charges. After Meng's detention, China arrested two Canadians on national security grounds, and a Chinese court later sentenced to death a Canadian man who previously had only been jailed for drug smuggling. Brock University professor Charles Burton, a former Canadian diplomat who had served two postings in China, said Beijing was likely to retaliate further. "They're not going to take this lying down ... one shudders to think what the consequences could be," he told the Canadian Broadcasting Corp, saying Beijing might crack down on Canadian canola shipments or stop Chinese students from going to Canada. Ottawa rejects Chinese calls to release Meng, saying it cannot interfere with the judiciary. "The Chinese side is utterly dissatisfied with and firmly opposes the issuance of (the) authority to proceed," the embassy in Ottawa said in a statement. Beijing had earlier questioned the state of judicial independence in Canada, noting the government faces accusations it had tried to intervene to stop a corruption trial. Canadian Justice Minister David Lametti declined to comment. Huawei was not immediately available for comment. Meng's lawyers said they were disappointed and described the U.S. charges as politically motivated. -- © Copyright Reuters 2019-03-02 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, rooster59 said: It could be years though before Meng is ever sent to the United States, since Canada's slow-moving justice system allows many decisions to be appealed. doesnt matter, in the eyes of the usa their goal has been accomplished 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Oh boy... those Canadians better watch out now as the wealth of the chinese will come down heavy and fast... 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DoctorG Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 Canadians might like to rethink their travel plans to China. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 hour ago, ezzra said: Oh boy... those Canadians better watch out now as the wealth of the chinese will come down heavy and fast... Yeah I suppose Canada had better pick who their true ally is... Anyway the justice system is transparent in the USA and the exec will have the best lawyers money can buy. Let the Chinese seethe. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 58 minutes ago, DoctorG said: Canadians might like to rethink their travel plans to China. You would have to be nuts to go to anywhere in China now if you are from Canada or American. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post car720 Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 There is much, much more to this than the average joe understands. If she had simply been charged with spying, which is what the US is really saying no matter how they couch it, then the whole thing would have been over by now. To say that this is not political is an absolute lie. 7 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SammyT Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 Imagine how quiet and push-free airports and hotel lobbies would be in Canada if the Chinese decided to take their tourism elsewhere... 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boon Mee Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, SammyT said: Imagine how quiet and push-free airports and hotel lobbies would be in Canada if the Chinese decided to take their tourism elsewhere... That would be heaven! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 3 hours ago, rooster59 said: "I suspect the Trudeau government is desperately hoping that the Americans reach a deal with the Chinese," No worries there, we have the King of Deals in office 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 3 hours ago, rooster59 said: U.S. President Donald Trump told Reuters in December he would intervene if it served national security interests or helped close a trade deal with China It depends on whether Trump can benefit personally with Canada. Trump Tower in Vancouver and no property taxes for 20 years? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 And let the thermonuclear games begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ncc1701d Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 I love it when the Chinese can’t be the bully. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonOh Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 3 hours ago, SammyT said: Imagine how quiet and push-free airports and hotel lobbies would be in Canada if the Chinese decided to take their tourism elsewhere... It Would be Perfect, Not to see chinese tourists and enjoy visit Banff, Lake Louise and Whistler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 6 hours ago, rooster59 said: U.S. President Donald Trump told Reuters in December he would intervene if it served national security interests or helped close a trade deal with China, He is determined to go to jail for obstructing justice somehow, some way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 (edited) Trudeau's interference with the SNC issue has started to haunt him, may regret trying to appease for the french vote. Edited March 2, 2019 by from the home of CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyngai Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 The Beijing government will sacrifice her and continue to do what is necessary to regain the country's former status as the super power of Asia. She might have to rot in jail and join the one million soldiers that died in the Korean war. One of Chairman Mao's son also died in the war. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ulic Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 The problem that China has, (and her) is that she is guilty. There is no doubt that she lied to the banks about Huawei cloak and dagger formation of shell companies so they could export telecommunications equipment to Iran (don't blame Trump this was Obama era violations). This is the main reason China is so upset. Things will take years, and the US may drop the charges because it is politically expedient (they release/ make deals with criminals all the time, look at Whitey Bulger) but she is guilty. As for Canada, deportation can take a decade or more with an unlimited budget and the dozens of appeals. Just submit them at each deadline, one appeal at a time and the snail-paced justice system drags on. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 6 hours ago, Cryingdick said: You would have to be nuts to go to anywhere in China now if you are from Canada or American. Doubt much issues for tourists. Those on business, or previously holding government positions maybe a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 6 hours ago, car720 said: There is much, much more to this than the average joe understands. If she had simply been charged with spying, which is what the US is really saying no matter how they couch it, then the whole thing would have been over by now. To say that this is not political is an absolute lie. Coming from an average joe, that's a bit of dodgy bit of reasoning. This reason she isn't charged with "spying" is that it's not quite what this is about. That her firm also does that (as in industrial espionage), is a different issue. Curious how this would have been "over by now" if she was, indeed, "charged with spying"? And was there actually anything serious said about this not being "political"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whip Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 US says "jump", Canada says: "how high". Happens alot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Morch said: And was there actually anything serious said about this not being "political"? I believe the Canadian Prime Minister and several of his cronies, as well as the Canadian judiciary, have said on many occasions that it is not political. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Morch said: That her firm also does that (as in industrial espionage), is a different issue. She is only a director of the company and as such has fiduciary duties. Said duties form the basis of her arrest. If not for her actions on behalf of the company then she wouldn't be arrested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tlandtday Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 rather interesting to see one of the "untouchables" in China actually be prosecuted for something... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, tlandtday said: rather interesting to see one of the "untouchables" in China actually be prosecuted for something... 55555... she is more than a few rungs below the top of the ladder and nowhere near untouchable in the Chinese pantheon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 4 hours ago, SoonOh said: It Would be Perfect, Not to see chinese tourists and enjoy visit Banff, Lake Louise and Whistler Interesting, considering that Canada, especially Toronto, has the largest number of Chinese residents outside of mainland China. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scott Posted March 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 hour ago, car720 said: Interesting, considering that Canada, especially Toronto, has the largest number of Chinese residents outside of mainland China. You might want to review this link about the countries with the most ethnic Chinese. https://www.quora.com/Which-country-has-the-largest-population-of-Chinese-outside-of-China 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 11 hours ago, ezzra said: Oh boy... those Canadians better watch out now as the wealth of the chinese will come down heavy and fast... A mass sell off of Vancouver real estate is in the cards?! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
300sd Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 Too bad for her...and too bad for Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 ...could this affect visas for Canadians going to China...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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