Angry over Brexit delay, 'Leave' supporters march through London

[candide]

12 hours ago, malagateddy said:

Since the 2008 financial crash..the multi national globalists and their ilk have got RICHER and RICHER
Meanwhile..middle class and working class people in the UK and other countries have became POORER.
Tax increases..cost of living up etc etc.

I don't disagree with this first part if your post.

Now please explain how a global low tax hub of free trade agreements is likely to improve the condition of the working class. That's beyond my understanding.

I have asked this question many times but never got an answer.

[shy coconut]

13 hours ago, Krataiboy said:

Agreed. Also, they tend to be fixated on the economics of Brexit, which obviously matter but were not the primary driving force behind the Leave vote. This is acknowledged by the former Governor of the Bank of England, Mervyn King, in (of all places) today's Sun, where he offers his own solution to the problem of where to go next.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8752696/brexit-economy-freedom-mervyn-king-opinion/

 

Of course, because it's in one of the popular tabloid papers (as opposed to unpopular chattering class broadsheets such as the socialist Guardian and Independent) no remainers are likely to have even seen it, let alone read it!

That is a report on an interview conducted with King by the BBC.

The exact same text appears in the earlier links to the times and guardian.

 

So, yes I and many others have seen and read the article.

 

 

[shy coconut]

8 hours ago, sanemax said:

With the 3 million European workers in the UK going back home, there will be plenty of jobs around 

Yes, all those knackered old farts marching yesterday can do them!

[fullcave]

Hotel California.

[Laughing Gravy]

14 hours ago, dunroaming said:

But worry not! Nigel believes if there is a second referendum then the leavers would win with a larger majority.  Shall we test that theory then Nigel ????.  I don't think another referendum is the answer.  A softer Brexit wouldn't solve it but it would mean that the leavers got something.

Typical remainer mentality. Lets have a forth and fifth referendum. as it is as ridiculous as having a second before the first has even been implemented.

 

Lets have a no deal so the remainers can blame everything that goes ion in their lives on no deal and leaving the EU, as they already blame everything on the UK wanting to leave the EU already.

[Laughing Gravy]

13 hours ago, puipuitom said:

See in Goolge with "polls brexit regret", and you will see quite some British finally opened their eyes instead of believing Boris the Liar Johnson with his "£350M/wk for NHS".

???? we all know that Polls tell the truth and especially on Google.

13 hours ago, puipuitom said:

And the British... have till 12 April ( = <2 weeks) to find a way, as without… there will be no Nigel Farages nor any Brit voted into the EU parliament. Even Salvini ( Lega Nord) is completely convinced: NEVER leave the EU.

Thankfully 17.4 million people no better.

[Laughing Gravy]

12 hours ago, Spidey said:

Bit like May insisting on three votes on her deal, didn't like the results and is now trying for a fourth vote.

 

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. So that's three referendums to go then.

You will be jumping off your balcony watching the Chinese tourists that you so often do, when you get beat 3 times in a row then.

[BobBKK]

Small crowd of Farange supporters.

[Laughing Gravy]

8 hours ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

He was hosting the "Make Brexit Happen" rally and you think it "biased" to "link" him to Brexit.  Good grief.

If you read my posts it was biased to the story of Nigel Farage and those who have walked from Sunderland to London. Tommy Robinson had nothing to do with that so why mention it, other than bias and P poor journalism. Jeez take your rose tinted glasses off.

[Laughing Gravy]

8 hours ago, tudorc said:

 

And so project fear is actually project reality.....

 

...the real project fear was the leave campaign about the bogey man called the EU....

 

Cost of Brexit so far :-

 

https://costofbrexit.netlify.com/

 

63.5 Billion pounds and rising

 

a list of companys planning or have already planned to leave UK shores

 

https://www.compelo.com/companies-leaving-the-uk-after-brexit/

 

more links from brexit supporting papers:-

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1045243/Brexit-cost-how-much-has-brexit-cost-uk-june-2018-500-million-pounds-a-week

 

Barclays bank shifts 190 billion of assets to the Republic of Ireland:-

https://www.fnlondon.com/articles/barclays-prepares-to-shift-e190bn-of-uk-assets-to-ireland-20190130

 

Transferwise relocates out of London :

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-fintech-transferwise-brexit/brexit-prompts-transferwise-to-move-europe-headquarter-from-uk-to-continent-idUKKBN17E1KC

 

 

 

So you are either new to the forum or another TV forum member in disguise. So I will save you a lot of time I and i am sure many others don't care about your project fear, as we have been hearing it for 3 years. so no matter what you put down, from whatever source, it dosn't matter We (17.4) million voters want out of the EU.

[sammieuk1]

6 hours ago, Basil B said:

 

 

6 hours ago, Basil B said:

Looking at the facial expression of guy on the right, I think he has already started to deflate...  

Looks like a backbench revolt ????

 

 

[sammieuk1]

6 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

So you are either new to the forum or another TV forum member in disguise. So I will save you a lot of time I and i am sure many others don't care about your project fear, as we have been hearing it for 3 years. so no matter what you put down, from whatever source, it dosn't matter We (17.4) million voters want out of the EU.

It could be a lot less than that now as Boris Gove and Mogg have demonstrated people change their mind with the facts????

[Laughing Gravy]

2 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

It could be a lot less than that now as Boris Gove and Mogg have demonstrated people change their mind with the facts????

Not the fact of leaving the EU. They all agree on that. Because of MP's so hell bent on remaining in the EU and ignoring the will of the people.

Just remainer semantics trying to confuse and keep the UK in the EU, trying to say brexiteers can't agree. If Parliament wasn't full of remainers we wouldn't be in this mess.

[brewsterbudgen]

If you read my posts it was biased to the story of Nigel Farage and those who have walked from Sunderland to London. Tommy Robinson had nothing to do with that so why mention it, other than bias and P poor journalism. Jeez take your rose tinted glasses off.

He made a speech from the stage and announced May's defeat (on her deal). His jumping on the Brexit bandwagon just shows how volatile and dangerous the situation is. Therefore not to report his presence would be outrageous.

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[sammieuk1]

1 minute ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Not the fact of leaving the EU. They all agree on that. Because of MP's so hell bent on remaining in the EU and ignoring the will of the people.

Just remainer semantics trying to confuse and keep the UK in the EU, trying to say brexiteers can't agree. If Parliament wasn't full of remainers we wouldn't be in this mess.

But your argument like parliament and the country contains almost as many remain voters as leave hence the impasse and the 29th gone probably for good???? 

[Laughing Gravy]

10 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

But your argument like parliament and the country contains almost as many remain voters as leave hence the impasse and the 29th gone probably for good???? 

It was a binary referendum. Over 1 million people voted more to leave. That still hasn't been enacted upon????

How about doing that first and then having another referendum say in 10 years. That is more than fair, since it was 40 plus years since the first to the second referendum. Or is it you just don't like the result like most of parliament.

[sammieuk1]

5 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

It was a binary referendum. Over 1 million people voted more to leave. That still hasn't been enacted upon????

How about doing that first and then having another referendum say in 10 years. That is more than fair, since it was 40 plus years since the first to the second referendum. Or is it you just don't like the result like most of parliament.

Or as we are here now another referendum with the facts not fiction and aspirations to appease the grey men of the Tory hierarchy .

 

On a personal level if your lied to in an election you have a chance to overturn that at the next election in this case its the fabulously rich wanting to get richer and more powerful so its a no brainer revote for me. in or out for the poor is bad news as they will be picking up the tab for years to come Its now Mays deal no deal or revoke/referendum as the swamp gets drained to expose a load of chickens????   

[malagateddy]

I do not know..but there is widespread anger in eu member countries that is " coming to the boil "
Macron..giving tax breaks to the rich and the man/women on the street getting hammered more and more as basic necessities become dearer.
Be interesting next coupla months as I fully expect and hope that populist mep's are elected from various countries in the may elections

I don't disagree with this first part if your post.
Now please explain how a global low tax hub of free trade agreements is likely to improve the condition of the working class. That's beyond my understanding.
I have asked this question many times but never got an answer.

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23 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Remain supports have a democratic right to peacefully campaign, lobby and protest in favour of the things they believe in.

 

The ‘will of the people’ is not the will of all the people.

so next time there is an election ,we will all moan and start throwing our toys out of the pram ,have false ballots and march around ,painting our faces ,because we don't want that govt? the "the will of the people,is not the will of all the people"

do come up with a proper argument for once . .

[Loiner]

11 hours ago, Basil B said:

Get over it...

he is a low life with a criminal record as long as your arm.

You keep posting crap that fools nobody but yourself (and possibly one two others).

I can get over it, or keep going with it. It all depends on you Remainers who keep bringing him into a Brexit thread. Why do you do that - is he our secret Leave weapon?

I don't mind his criminal convictions, except those brought by politically motivated persecution. They can't and won't shut him up easily, but appear to be trying to allow jailbird jihadis to do the dirty work for them. What is the establishment so afraid he will do and why would Remainers get their collective knickers in a knot about a little lad from Luton?

Maybe I am trying to fool you about something, but stumped if I know what that is. What do you feel I haven't fooled you about?

[superal]

10 hours ago, SheungWan said:

Where did you pick that little gem up from.

Go look in the BBC News political page or Google , France to veto UK extension

[Kieran00001]

2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

If you read my posts it was biased to the story of Nigel Farage and those who have walked from Sunderland to London. Tommy Robinson had nothing to do with that so why mention it, other than bias and P poor journalism. Jeez take your rose tinted glasses off.

 

What do you think biased means?

The article was about Leave protests in London, nothing specific about Nigels march, as it makes clear in the headline.

 

 

[Kieran00001]

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

It was a binary referendum. Over 1 million people voted more to leave. That still hasn't been enacted upon????

How about doing that first and then having another referendum say in 10 years. That is more than fair, since it was 40 plus years since the first to the second referendum. Or is it you just don't like the result like most of parliament.

 

Your fantasy of just getting on with it and leaving without a deal went to vote and it lost.  Parliament voted against the EU's departure deal, against leaving with no deal, against all of May's deals and against a host of other suggestions.  There is no exit without parliaments ratification, at present we have no way forward other than a GE or a referendum.  As May said on Friday, that was the last chance to guarantee Brexit.

[AGareth2]

1 minute ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

Your fantasy of just getting on with it and leaving without a deal went to vote and it lost.  Parliament voted against the EU's departure deal, against leaving with no deal, against all of May's deals and against a host of other suggestions.  There is no exit without parliaments ratification, at present we have no way forward other than a GE or a referendum.  As May said on Friday, that was the last chance to guarantee Brexit.

Revoke Art 50

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, malagateddy said:

I do not know..but there is widespread anger in eu member countries that is " coming to the boil "
Macron..giving tax breaks to the rich and the man/women on the street getting hammered more and more as basic necessities become dearer.
Be interesting next coupla months as I fully expect and hope that populist mep's are elected from various countries in the may elections

 

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What Macron does is hardly relevant. The question is when can you get to grips with the fact that it was the Tories austerity policies that increased the gap between the rich and the poor. The tabloids (Owned by mega rich) are trying - and clearly succeeding -  in hiding this from their readers. The irony is that you are - quite rightly - upset about the unfair distribution of wealth, but blinded to the obvious cause. The EU do not control the internal workings of the UK economy, tax rates etc etc. Of course plenty of rich vermin WANT you to believe that it's all the fault of the EU, but it simply isn't true.

How about actually answering the original question:-

"Now please explain how a global low tax hub of free trade agreements is likely to improve the condition of the working class. That's beyond my understanding. I have asked this question many times but never got an answer."

 

 

 

Edited March 31, 2019 by Nigel Garvie
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[malagateddy]

Macron..I was giving an example.
I do not have the knowledge to answer the low tax hub bit.

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[Laughing Gravy]

1 hour ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

What do you think biased means?

The article was about Leave protests in London, nothing specific about Nigels march, as it makes clear in the headline.

 

 

I suggest you read the article again. Became biased when it brings Tommy Robinson into it, as usual from Reuters, biased.

 

"Nigel Farage - the politician widely thought to have done the most to spook Britain’s then government into agreeing to hold the referendum - addressed the crowd at the end of a 270-mile (435 km), two-week march from Sunderland, northeast England, to London."

 

[Laughing Gravy]

1 hour ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

Your fantasy of just getting on with it and leaving without a deal went to vote and it lost.  Parliament voted against the EU's departure deal, against leaving with no deal, against all of May's deals and against a host of other suggestions.  There is no exit without parliaments ratification, at present we have no way forward other than a GE or a referendum.  As May said on Friday, that was the last chance to guarantee Brexit.

Whilst she is PM. Not for long though.

[SheungWan]

12 hours ago, Basil B said:

Just googled that and the nearest statement came from Macron on Wednesday as reported in the Indipendent:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-article-50-extend-macron-merkel-theresa-may-france-germany-eu-talks-a8799506.html

Not exactly:

'No more extensions as France has made it clear and will veto any further extension requests'

Looks like more fake news...

 

1 hour ago, superal said:

Go look in the BBC News political page or Google , France to veto UK extension

I guess the above earlier contribution from BasilB just passed you by. Or you are just repeating something irrespective of accuracy. Hard Brexiteers doing that. Quelle Surprise!

Edited March 31, 2019 by SheungWan

[Laughing Gravy]

2 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Or as we are here now another referendum with the facts not fiction and aspirations to appease the grey men of the Tory hierarchy .

 

On a personal level if your lied to in an election you have a chance to overturn that at the next election in this case its the fabulously rich wanting to get richer and more powerful so its a no brainer revote for me. in or out for the poor is bad news as they will be picking up the tab for years to come Its now Mays deal no deal or revoke/referendum as the swamp gets drained to expose a load of chickens????   

Still the reamainer mantra, we were lied to boo hoo. Both sides lied but regardless myself and everyone who i know, didn't listen to politicians arguments, as they made their mind up years before. Still remainers still keep throwing their rattles out the pram, 'we were lied to' lets have another vote. Its pathetic and quite frankly childish.

 

A vote is a democratic right regardless of what politicians say will, could, maybe or should happen. a voter have their own views and reasons for picking a choice whether you agree with that or not. Also the result should be respected. It is what adults do.

 

I am still waiting for the George Osborne prophecy the day after the leave referendum result. Regardless if people voted to remain, that's their choice, even if it was based on lies. people at 18 are supposedly adults and can make their own mind up, Stop treating people like children because you disagree with them or their views.