Jingthing Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mikebike said: I read it. Seems to be a reasonable counterpoint to US media propaganda. I won't even read Iranian regime propaganda. If others want to, fine, but I thought it was very sleazy to include it as a mystery link. If it had been spelled out as in Press TV then most people know that is Iranian regime controlled propaganda. Edited April 10, 2019 by Jingthing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: You link to Iranian regime propaganda without labeling it as such and you don't understand? OK. That makes sense. Aren't all news agencies propaganda of some regime or another? I dont know whats so special about this link...??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, ravip said: Aren't all news agencies propaganda of some regime or another? I dont know whats so special about this link...??? No! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Jingthing said: I won't even read Iranian regime propaganda. If others want to, fine, but I thought it was very sleazy to include it as a mystery link. If it had been spelled out as in Press TV then most people know that is Iranian regime controlled propaganda. I am sorry to tell you I meant NOTHING sleazy to include that link, and whats the mystery about it? Please take note that I dont go down to the 'sleazy' level under ANY circumstances. Thank you. And Wikipedia says this Press TV Edited April 10, 2019 by ravip Add 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, ravip said: I am sorry to tell you I meant NOTHING sleazy to include that link, and whats the mystery about it? Please take note that I dont go down to the 'sleazy' level under ANY circumstances. Thank you. There are certain notorious "news" sources that are fully controlled by authoritarian governments. Informed people know what those are. Press TV is fully controlled by the Iranian regime Russia Today is fully controlled by Putin's Russian dictatorship. In short -- they are 100 percent propaganda. I think it's sleazy to post links to garbage sources like that CONCEALING what they are. If you had included the actual link that said Press TV, that would be different. The way you did it, I clicked on it and was totally disgusted that I got tricked into opening a Press TV item. Understand now? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: There are certain notorious "news" sources that are fully controlled by authoritarian governments. Informed people know what those are. Press TV is fully controlled by the Iranian regime Russia Today is fully controlled by Putin's Russian dictatorship. In short -- they are 100 percent propaganda. I think it's sleazy to post links to garbage sources like that CONCEALING what they are. If you had included the actual link that said Press TV, that would be different. The way you did it, I clicked on it and was totally disgusted that I got tricked into opening a Press TV item. Understand now? No! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 minute ago, ravip said: No! Then I can't help you at this point. I've explained it clearly. You tricked me into clicking on a Press TV link that I would never have clicked on if you included it with a spelled out link. I posted about it to warn others not to click on your CONCEALED source link if they don't wish to click on an Iranian regime propaganda site. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farq Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) The world has known that the US has been a major terrorist threat for decades! Iran is just reaffirming the facts! The truth hurts, doesn't it! Edited April 10, 2019 by farq 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sealbash Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2019 The world has known that the US has been a major terrorist threat for decades! Iran is just reaffirming the facts! The truth hurts, doesn't it!If the world has known this, why have they not acted on it? Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 29 minutes ago, farq said: The world has known that the US has been a major terrorist threat for decades! Who on Earth is terrified (which is the objective of terrorism) by the USA? Seems that most countries are just laughing at the US since the election of Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 33 minutes ago, Sealbash said: If the world has known this, why have they not acted on it? Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app It is happening... Slowly, but surely. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: Then I can't help you at this point. I've explained it clearly. You tricked me into clicking on a Press TV link that I would never have clicked on if you included it with a spelled out link. I posted about it to warn others not to click on your CONCEALED source link if they don't wish to click on an Iranian regime propaganda site. That's all. why? mossad or your bosses there get angry to you if you enter a pro iran website? i am not a pro Zionist but i enter pro zionist websites to see what they think and say! anyway, is there any worse army in this world with more blood in its hands then US army and its extension Israeli army? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Galactus said: why? mossad or your bosses there get angry to you if you enter a pro iran website? i am not a pro Zionist but i enter pro zionist websites to see what they think and say! anyway, is there any worse army in this world with more blood in its hands then US army and its extension Israeli army? So you're accusing me of being a Mossad agent or having bosses controlling my posts? Wow. Unfreakin' believable. My point about Press TV links (as well as Russian Today and similar totally government owned PROPAGANDA sites) is that if people are going to link to them, they should not do so in a sleazy, stealth manner. If it's a full link, SPELLED out, then people can choose whether it's a source they want to click on. No, I have no interest in reading authoritarian regime fully owned propaganda organs from Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia. etc. Edited April 10, 2019 by Jingthing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagateddy Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Not the eu countries..who will win the usa vs eu trade war..Answers on a postcard please[emoji6] Who on Earth is terrified (which is the objective of terrorism) by the USA? Seems that most countries are just laughing at the US since the election of Trump.Sent from my SM-G7102 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ravip Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2019 24 minutes ago, Jingthing said: So you're accusing me of being a Mossad agent or having bosses controlling my posts? Wow. Unfreakin' believable. My point about Press TV links (as well as Russian Today and similar totally government owned PROPAGANDA sites) is that if people are going to link to them, they should not do so in a sleazy, stealth manner. If it's a full link, SPELLED out, then people can choose whether it's a source they want to click on. No, I have no interest in reading authoritarian regime fully owned propaganda organs from Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia. etc. Regret to say again, there was absolutely no sleazy, stealth manner in my post, intended or by mistake. Unfortunately, it is your unfounded bias attitude that makes you feel so, but I am NOT going to argue on that mundane point at any cost. According to your "logic" all links to CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera, ABC etc also should be high lighted so that people are "warned" before they are clicked. Definitely, there are some who would have the same feelings as you on these sites too. We all have are own opinions, but that does not make mine "better" than yours. This type of tunnel vision is the cause of many conflicts on this lovely planet named Earth. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikebike Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2019 I don’t know, but personally I wouldn’t avoid reading anything just because of its source. Even propaganda outlets are occasionally correct. But the real value of sources diametrically opposed to one’s own point of view is that it gives us a window into the mindset of those who do not think exactly the same way we do. How could I have an intelligent conversation regarding nazi Germany or the Middle East if I never read Mien Kampff or the Koran? Seems incredibly narrow minded and a good way to generationally embed historical inaccuracies and gaslighting. I have no idea how one can determine another poster’s intentions, but it does seem some of us have not heard of, nor have the breadth of knowledge, to know the political leaning of every news organization on the globe, nor which ones we should ignore outright without researching for ourselves and critically analyzing the content through our own personal filters, education, and experience. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Regret to say again, there was absolutely no sleazy, stealth manner in my post, intended or by mistake. Unfortunately, it is your unfounded bias attitude that makes you feel so, but I am NOT going to argue on that mundane point at any cost. According to your "logic" all links to CNN, BBC, Al Jazeera, ABC etc also should be high lighted so that people are "warned" before they are clicked. Definitely, there are some who would have the same feelings as you on these sites too. We all have are own opinions, but that does not make mine "better" than yours. This type of tunnel vision is the cause of many conflicts on this lovely planet named Earth. You posted a blind link to an explicit propaganda site of a government that sponsors Death to America and Death to Israel rallies. To suggest an equivalence to a site like CNN is totally false. They may have a political bias but they are not owned and controlled by any government. I do not believe you don't get this. Just post normal links with the site name spelled out when trying to trick people to click on Iran regime propaganda. Maybe that trick wasn't intentional but you are so irrationally defensive about it that I reckon it probably was.What's next?White nationalists linking to KKK sites with hidden addresses.Want to see some cute puppies?Click the blind link.Oh no!!! Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Just now, Jingthing said: You posted a blind link to an explicit propaganda of a government that sponsors Death to America and Death to Israel rallies. To suggest an equivalence to a site like CNN is totally false. They may have a political bias but they are not owned by any government. I do not believe you don't get this. Just post normal links with the site name spelled out when trying to trick people to click on Iran regime propaganda. Maybe that trick wasn't intentional but you are so irrationally defensive about it that I reckon it probably was. What's next? White nationalists linking to KKK sites with hidden addresses. Want to see some cute puppies? Click the blind link. Oh no!!! Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app OK I say you win unconditionally.. Don't worry about loosing face, you did not. Perfect, your honour. Please rest in peace. The END. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I don’t know, but personally I wouldn’t avoid reading anything just because of its source. Even propaganda outlets are occasionally correct. But the real value of sources diametrically opposed to one’s own point of view is that it gives us a window into the mindset of those who do not think exactly the same way we do. How could I have an intelligent conversation regarding nazi Germany or the Middle East if I never read Mien Kampff or the Koran? Seems incredibly narrow minded and a good way to generationally embed historical inaccuracies and gaslighting. I have no idea how one can determine another poster’s intentions, but it does seem some of us have not heard of, nor have the breadth of knowledge, to know the political leaning of every news organization on the globe, nor which ones we should ignore outright without researching for ourselves and critically analyzing the content through our own personal filters, education, and experience.It should not have been a blind link. End of. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hansnl Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) On 4/9/2019 at 6:07 AM, mania said: While all US Presidents have usually suffered being Israel's shield ...This one has gone full lap dog Mania, don't forget the US earned an awful lot of money for "suffering Israel's shield". Besides, the amount of money given to Arab countries is much, very much, frighteningly much, more. No American soldier has ever "guarded" Israel, in fact thanks to Israel quite a few muslim/arab terror attacks in the US and against the US were stopped in time thanks to information from Israel. By the way, Mania, any idea how many Iranians are busy in South America, any idea who got the idea to organise the Latin March to the US border? Any idea how many Iranians are busy in Europe, murdering people and planning terror? Yes, all those are members of that infamous guards. Any idea why so many Iranian "tourists" are visiting the South of Thailand, Mindanao in the Phillipines, mingling with Rohingyas, operating in Syria and Iraq, and so on. Thanks to Ohbahmah and his stupidity the world has become a lot more dangerous. You might call eight years of that idiot the presidential lapdog period of the financing of terror in the world. Edited April 10, 2019 by hansnl 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nigel Garvie Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, hansnl said: Mania, don't forget the US earned an awful lot of money for "suffering Israel's shield". Besides, the amount of money given to Arab countries is much, very much, frighteningly much, more. No American soldier has ever "guarded" Israel, in fact thanks to Israel quite a few muslim/arab terror attacks in the US and against the US were stopped in time thanks to information from Israel. By the way, Mania, any idea how many Iranians are busy in South America, any idea who got the idea to organise the Latin March to the US border? Any idea how many Iranians are busy in Europe, murdering people and planning terror? Yes, all those are members of that infamous guards. Any idea why so many Iranian "tourists" are visiting the South of Thailand, Mindanao in the Phillipines, mingling with Rohingyas, operating in Syria and Iraq, and so on. Thanks to Ohbahmah and his stupidity the world has become a lot more dangerous. You might call eight years of that idiot the presidential lapdog period of the financing of terror in the world. I don't think I have ever read a worse informed rant on this topic. Please get it into your head that there is no evidence of Iran exporting terrorism. The ones that have been exporting the ideology of extreme Islam are Sunnis, like the US's great friends the Saudis, Al Qaeda, Saddam Hussain, The (Genocidal) Turks, The Taliban, Al Nusrah, Boko Haram, and the same in the Philippines, South Thailand, Pakistan, Indonesia. What have they all got in common apart from extreme religion, suicide bombing, and terrorism THEY ARE SUNNIS, and our oil money paid for the export of their sick Salafi version of Islam from Saudi Arabia. The Iranians and a minority of the population in Syria and Lebanon, and a majority of the population in Iraq THEY ARE SHIA. With very few exceptions they don't do terrorism. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThaiFelix Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Jingthing said: It should not have been a blind link. End of. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app I dont understand why you keep repeating continously in a mind numbing fashion, like the CNN, that the link was blind. When I put the curser on the link on all of my computers/laptops etc a ribbon on the bottom of the screen tells me the full address BEFORE I click??? And the link in question clearly showed it was Press TV?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThaiFelix Posted April 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2019 5 hours ago, hansnl said: Mania, don't forget the US earned an awful lot of money for "suffering Israel's shield". Besides, the amount of money given to Arab countries is much, very much, frighteningly much, more. No American soldier has ever "guarded" Israel, in fact thanks to Israel quite a few muslim/arab terror attacks in the US and against the US were stopped in time thanks to information from Israel. By the way, Mania, any idea how many Iranians are busy in South America, any idea who got the idea to organise the Latin March to the US border? Any idea how many Iranians are busy in Europe, murdering people and planning terror? Yes, all those are members of that infamous guards. Any idea why so many Iranian "tourists" are visiting the South of Thailand, Mindanao in the Phillipines, mingling with Rohingyas, operating in Syria and Iraq, and so on. Thanks to Ohbahmah and his stupidity the world has become a lot more dangerous. You might call eight years of that idiot the presidential lapdog period of the financing of terror in the world. After reading your post I must take my hat off to the black propaganda machine in the US because they are obviously doing an excellent job on its citizens. The CIA Dept of Dirty Tricks and many other US "security" organisations are also out there in much greater numbers stirring trouble against anyone that is deemed to be threatening US interests. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 8 hours ago, ThaiFelix said: When I put the curser on the link on all of my computers/laptops etc a ribbon on the bottom of the screen tells me the full address BEFORE I click??? And the link in question clearly showed it was Press TV?? To be fair that is not the case if the reader is using a mobile device. But I am still bewildered by the level of "triggering" caused by a link... and ascribing intent is absurd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, hansnl said: Mania, don't forget the US earned an awful lot of money for "suffering Israel's shield". If I recall we/USA taxpayers...give Israel millions $$ per day I would not call that earning.. I would call it something I cannot print here Edited April 10, 2019 by mania 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactus Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 20 hours ago, Jingthing said: So you're accusing me of being a Mossad agent or having bosses controlling my posts? Wow. Unfreakin' believable. My point about Press TV links (as well as Russian Today and similar totally government owned PROPAGANDA sites) is that if people are going to link to them, they should not do so in a sleazy, stealth manner. If it's a full link, SPELLED out, then people can choose whether it's a source they want to click on. No, I have no interest in reading authoritarian regime fully owned propaganda organs from Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia. etc. It was a joke but you are offended so i hope what i said is not true! Links are links, you click, have a look and if you didnt like it, you just pass. nothing serious! I have no interest on reading pro zinoist b s from fascist and discriminating pro zioinst websites too but i check those websites. Bc if i dont, i have no chance to make a meaningful discussion about these topics or a comparison. And although i never agree with those pro zioinst websites, i still respect the projection of their ideas. (although fascist and b s, again and again) And, most probably that is why you are a partial person. maybe bc you dont know the ideas of others you criticise and have no idea on what they say. 19 hours ago, mikebike said: I don’t know, but personally I wouldn’t avoid reading anything just because of its source. Even propaganda outlets are occasionally correct. But the real value of sources diametrically opposed to one’s own point of view is that it gives us a window into the mindset of those who do not think exactly the same way we do. How could I have an intelligent conversation regarding nazi Germany or the Middle East if I never read Mien Kampff or the Koran? Seems incredibly narrow minded and a good way to generationally embed historical inaccuracies and gaslighting. I have no idea how one can determine another poster’s intentions, but it does seem some of us have not heard of, nor have the breadth of knowledge, to know the political leaning of every news organization on the globe, nor which ones we should ignore outright without researching for ourselves and critically analyzing the content through our own personal filters, education, and experience. very well said. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losworld Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Ridiculous action by the U.S. Unwarranted and part of misdirected policies that have spanned decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 23 hours ago, hansnl said: Mania, don't forget the US earned an awful lot of money for "suffering Israel's shield". Besides, the amount of money given to Arab countries is much, very much, frighteningly much, more. No American soldier has ever "guarded" Israel, in fact thanks to Israel quite a few muslim/arab terror attacks in the US and against the US were stopped in time thanks to information from Israel. By the way, Mania, any idea how many Iranians are busy in South America, any idea who got the idea to organise the Latin March to the US border? Any idea how many Iranians are busy in Europe, murdering people and planning terror? Yes, all those are members of that infamous guards. Any idea why so many Iranian "tourists" are visiting the South of Thailand, Mindanao in the Phillipines, mingling with Rohingyas, operating in Syria and Iraq, and so on. Thanks to Ohbahmah and his stupidity the world has become a lot more dangerous. You might call eight years of that idiot the presidential lapdog period of the financing of terror in the world. As mentioned by other posters, your claims are ridiculous as you are not even able to distinguish between Shia and Sunnis. All recent terrorist attacks in the USA (9/11), in Europe, and in Syria/Irak (i.e. ISIS) have been made by Sunnis, and mainly by people brainwashed in mosquees supported by SaudI Arabia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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