Mass UK protest demanding second EU referendum planned days before Brexit

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Mass UK protest demanding second EU referendum planned days before Brexit

 

FILE PHOTO - A European Union flag flutters outside the parliament in London, Britain April 10, 2019. REUTERS/Hannah Mckay

 

LONDON (Reuters) - Campaigners for a second Brexit referendum are planning another mass protest in London ahead of the date on which Britain is due to leave the European Union in October as the leading candidates to be the next prime minister say they will leave without a trade deal.

 

The People's Vote campaign, which includes several pro-EU groups, plans a series of rallies around Britain over the next few months called "Let us be heard". They will culminate in a march in London on Saturday, Oct. 12, in what organisers say will be one of the biggest demonstrations Britain has ever seen.

 

Britain could be heading towards a constitutional crisis over Brexit as many of the candidates vying to succeed Theresa May are prepared to leave the EU on Oct. 31 without a deal but parliament has indicated it will try to thwart such a scenario, concerned about the potential economic disruption.

 

Lawmakers have repeatedly rejected the idea of holding a second referendum even as many Britons have become increasingly frustrated with parliament's failure to agree how or whether Brexit should happen.

 

But campaigners say another vote could be the only way out of the current impasse.

 

“Whether you want to leave the EU or to stay in, the only way to unlock the Brexit process in parliament, the only way to secure a stable majority in Parliament, the only way to legitimise the outcome so we can build a lasting settlement in the country is to give the people the final say,” said Michael Heseltine, a former deputy prime minister.

 

Some opinion polls have shown a slight shift in favour of remaining in the European Union, but there has yet to be a decisive change in attitudes and many in Britain say they have become increasingly bored by Brexit.

 

In March, the People's Vote campaign claimed a million people marched on the streets of London, which would make it the biggest rally in Britain since the Iraq War in 2003. Last October, the group claimed hundreds of thousands of people marched through the city demanding a new referendum.

 

(Reporting By Andrew MacAskill; editing by Stephen Addison)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-06-13

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[Laughing Gravy]

Another family day out for the Europeans walking around parts of London. March all you want the British majority voted to leave. Accept it and do something better with your time.

 

It has now been debunked that a million people marched last time. Over inflated figures yet again.

 

More hash from the pro EU Reuters.

Edited June 12, 2019 by Laughing Gravy

[Kinnock]

GBP will be 1:1 with USD soon and heading towards 1:1 with the Thai Baht by October.

 

 

 

 

[freedomnow]

1 minute ago, Kinnock said:

GBP will be 1:1 with USD soon and heading towards 1:1 with the Thai Baht by October.

 

 

 

 

Can understand your dollar quote, but your Thai baht forecast must be deadpan commentary....

[JonnyF]

Even a lot of Remainers realize a second referendum solves nothing. If Leave win again we're back where we started. If Remain win, Leave will instantly call for a decider, so we're back where we started.

 

I really don't understand what is supposed to happen AFTER a second referendum. Unless of course the Remain side think that a win for them would see all the Leavers instantly and graciously concede defeat with the score at 1-1 in the way that Remainers have steadfastly refused to do while 0-1 down. There's no chance of that, so another referendum simply drags this on for another 2-3-4 years.

 

We have to leave at the end of October. If Parliament continue to act against the will of the electorate then Parliament should be prorogued. If Bercow continues to show bias towards Remain, he should be replaced. MP's can no longer be allowed to put their personal preferences ahead of the article 50 legislation that they themselves voted for, following the democratically provided instruction of the people who elected them, the people who pay their salaries, the people they serve. 

[jesimps]

"Let us be heard"

 

You WERE heard in the referendum and you lost.

 

“Whether you want to leave the EU or to stay in, the only way to unlock the Brexit process in parliament, the only way to secure a stable majority in Parliament, the only way to legitimise the outcome so we can build a lasting settlement in the country is to give the people the final say,”

 

They had their final say three years ago. How many final says do you want?

[Denim]

If there were another referendum and remain won by a narrow margin how enthusiastic would they be to make it best of three ?

[freedomnow]

Political deception got Leave over the line....with the NHS bus quotes, shady funding sources for Leave, Cambridge Analytica utilised, and social media manipulation that was not as deeply investigated as it was in USA...though in USA it never amounted to much.

 

I think Remain would win 60/40 this time due to the sheer incompetence of what has happened since.

 

The only way the UK can turn things around is deeper biz tax cuts to pull in new companies making UK as a base and keep City of London cemented in. EU cannot compete on that tax front due to the socialist macro/overall slant and tax needed to fund their super-projects (cash transfers to poorer blocks to upgrade their infrastructure)....though it could then devolve into tit-for-tat tariffs like Trump is doing.

But yes, "Singapore of EU" would be the only way to lift the boat short-term based on market sentiment shoring up stocks etc...before it sinks to the bottom, along with the pound at "1 pound to 1 Baht"

Edited June 13, 2019 by freedomnow

[freedomnow]

22 minutes ago, Denim said:

If there were another referendum and remain won by a narrow margin how enthusiastic would they be to make it best of three ?

They'd have to be clear before-hand that a second vote would be the absolute decider unless it was a hung 50/50 result (improbable now).

[Denim]

4 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

They'd have to be clear before-hand that a second vote would be the absolute decider unless it was a hung 50/50 result (improbable now).

But clearly, the first vote should have been the absolute decider.

 

It would appear that some people who are for remaining did not realize the importance of the vote and might not have bothered when they had the chance.

[bluebluewater]

Now that Trump has left everyone can get back to focusing on what they should have been focused on in the first place.

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Denim said:

But clearly, the first vote should have been the absolute decider.

 

It would appear that some people who are for remaining did not realize the importance of the vote and might not have bothered when they had the chance.

Remind me what Farage said about a 48:52 result immediately prior to the referendum?

[alant]

1 hour ago, freedomnow said:

Can understand your dollar quote, but your Thai baht forecast must be deadpan commentary....

Quite probably if we don't get out of the EU. The pound has been disastrous during membership. 

[vogie]

8 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

They'd have to be clear before-hand that a second vote would be the absolute decider unless it was a hung 50/50 result (improbable now).

Another referendum would be a total insult to all those that voted to leave, not only to leavers but also to democracy itself. Another referendum is a selfish idea only peddled by the losers of the first referendum. "I will cry and cry untill I make myself sick" attitude must not be entertained and if you don't listen to me I will throw a milkshake over you.

[Estrada]

We are the 63% who did not vote to leave. The referendum was supposed to have been advisory and the law requires a majority of 55% of those who voted before the Government should action Brexit. In other words the referendum result was to Remain. Foreign influence, illegal campaign contributions by millionaires and lies such as  the GBP350Million/week payable to the EU and immigration swayed the vote. Many ex-pats in Europe and overseas were not given a chance to vote. Most jurisdictions require a majority of 60% (EU55%) for such an action as Brexit which has already done severe damage to the UK economy. As for having a second referendum, if the Government can have three votes on it and consider a fourth, why should the public not have a second referendum based on the real facts and not the lies spread by Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage? This time let's follow the law on referendums and enforce the 55% majority rule, then Remain will win by a clear majority. Clearly we have "Leave" to "Remain".

[Estrada]

2 minutes ago, alant said:

Quite probably if we don't get out of the EU. The pound has been disastrous during membership. 

The Pound fell because people were fooled by rich businessmen to vote to leave the EU. I few leave the pound will fall further.

[sammieuk1]

Wonder if we will ever know who's right in this never ending saga before my 70p pound is 50p????

[BritManToo]

3 minutes ago, Estrada said:

We are the 63% who did not vote to leave.

I was one of that 63% that didn't vote, and I'd like to leave.

 

[BritManToo]

1 minute ago, Estrada said:

The Pound fell because people were fooled by rich businessmen to vote to leave the EU. I few leave the pound will fall further.

The pound fell because of indecision, and will continue to fall until the end of the process.

The longer the anti-democracy elements prolong the leaving, the lower the pound will be driven.

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

The pound fell because of indecision, and will continue to fall until the end of the process.

The longer the anti-democracy elements prolong the leaving, the lower the pound will be driven.

 

 

 

You can Back this up of course with evidence of Sterling plunging coincident with a Remain protest.

 

Or shall we file this under:

 

It’s always somebody else’s fault.

[LennyW]

So much has come to light over this debarcle, true colours of the EU, a second vote would be even further in favour of leaving!

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, LennyW said:

So much has come to light over this debarcle, true colours of the EU, a second vote would be even further in favour of leaving!

Boris has flat out stated that what is at stake is the survival of the Tory party, as good an admission as you’ll get that he is intent on protecting his own political party, not doing what is best for the nation.

 

Put whatever deal Boris gets (or the No Deal) alongside of Remain to the electorate and let them decide.

[vogie]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Boris has flat out stated that what is at stake is the survival of the Tory party, as good an admission as you’ll get that he is intent on protecting his own political party, not doing what is best for the nation.

 

Put whatever deal Boris gets (or the No Deal) alongside of Remain to the electorate and let them decide.

I thought Juncker catagorically stated there will be no other deal, the one they have at the moment is the only one on the table, you know the one that has been rejected 3 times already by Parliament.

The EU has pushed the UK into a corner, they are being intransigent/bloody minded and that leaves the UK with very little choice.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, vogie said:

I thought Juncker catagorically stated there will be no other deal, the one they have at the moment is the only one on the table, you know the one that has been rejected 3 times already by Parliament.

The EU has pushed the UK into a corner, they are being intransigent/bloody minded and that leaves the UK with very little choice.

The UK is exactly where ‘Project Fear’ said it would be.

 

You didn’t pay attention, there is no deal better than full membership.

 

[vogie]

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The UK is exactly where ‘Project Fear’ said it would be.

 

You didn’t pay attention, there is no deal better than full membership.

 

If the remainers had respected the referendum result we certainly wouldn't be where we are now.

If Gove hadn't have stabbed Boris Johnson in the back there is a very good chance we wouldn't be where we are now.

 

Remainers to blame, blame the remainers.

Edited June 13, 2019 by vogie

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, vogie said:

If the remainers had respected the referendum result we certainly wouldn't be where we are now.

If Gove hadn't have stabbed Boris Johnson in the back there is a very good chance we wouldn't be where we are now.

 

Remainers to blame, blame the remainers.

True to Brexiteer form.

 

All that’s wrong in the world is the fault of someone else.

 

 

[vogie]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

True to Brexiteer form.

 

All that’s wrong in the world is the fault of someone else.

 

 

You appear to be very confused again Chomper, I will reply when you're feeling better.????

[Basil B]

49 minutes ago, freedomnow said:

They'd have to be clear before-hand that a second vote would be the absolute decider unless it was a hung 50/50 result (improbable now).

The second vote has to be clear on what form of Brexit or Remain.

As I see it there are at this time only 3 options. What has been negotiated, no deal or remain.

[evadgib]

36 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

You can Back this up of course with evidence of Sterling plunging coincident with a Remain protest.

 

Or shall we file this under:

 

It’s always somebody else’s fault.

Whether he can back it up is immaterial and won't stop a sizeable number of ordinary people (none of that 'Ficker than us' please!) thinking along the same lines.

[bizboi]

54 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Remind me what Farage said about a 48:52 result immediately prior to the referendum?

When will remoaners learn? 52 IS BIGGER than 48!!!!!