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Need confirmation about the blacklisting

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23 hours ago, ballbreaker said:

GF currently studying law and she says you are blacklisted.

You commited a crime in Thailand, were convicted of it in Thai court and you are blacklisted. I see no way around this unless you have boat loads of money to pay everyone off. Better off moving your family to India if you will miss them so much

 

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I am no expert of blacklisting (and hope I never need to be). Based on talking to someone much better informed on such matters I understand:

  • you are likely blacklisted for life;
  • in the short term, there is no legal recourse that is likely to be successful;
  • after two years, an appeal to have your blacklisting lifted for humanitarian reasons, issued jointly by you and your wife through a good immigration lawyer, has a good chance of success.

The only way you can try enter is by land. Fly to Laos or Cambodia and try to enter by land. If they refuse entry you walk back. Your family can then join you in the other country. If you try to enter by air and they eefuse entry your send home. Goodluck.

Hopefully you're Blacklisted. Don't  need anymore quality tourists. 

On 6/23/2019 at 3:21 PM, ubonjoe said:

You are not allowed to enter the country under section 12 of the immigration act.

"Section 12 : Aliens which fall into any of the following categories are excluded from entering into the
Kingdom :

6. Having been imprisoned by the judgement of the Thai Court ; or by a lawful injunction ; or by
the judgement of the Court of foreign country , except when the penalty is foe petty offense or negligence
or is provided for as an exception in the Ministerial Regulations.
7. Having behavior which would indicated possible danger to the public or likelihood of being a
nuisance or constituting any violence to the peace or safety of the public or to the security of the public or
to the security of the nation , or being under warrant of arrest by competent officials of foreign
governments."

ubonjoe i look many of your posts , how do you know so much about all this thai stuff ? im impressed. ????

I believe a blacklist stamp usually indicates the period of banned entry.

 

The OP's stamp is what one might call a persona non grata stamp. The period of banned entry is open-ended.

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place

 

11 hours ago, Old Croc said:

Going by the arrival stamp in the passport pages he posted, he was deported to India.

Perhaps he could relocate his family there.

 

(although, he may live in a neighboring country as I note his user nik is Islamic in origin)

The passport has both English and Hindi written on it (visa, emergency certificate), so I suspect he is an Indian citizen.  I don't know what their procedure is for family PR, but if it's anything like my own country, you need a police report from everywhere you lived for more than a year in the last ten years, for both husband and wife.  It would then be up to his own immigration department to judge on what ramifications his Thailand conviction has on whether or not to allow his wife to live there.

4 hours ago, SOUTHERNSTAR said:

The only way you can try enter is by land. Fly to Laos or Cambodia and try to enter by land. If they refuse entry you walk back. Your family can then join you in the other country. If you try to enter by air and they eefuse entry your send home. Goodluck.

I only reply to this as people read TVF for advice. If entering via border was so simplistic then that would be open entry for anyone banned for overstay etc. Bit similar to posts about change your name get a new passport. Rubbish. OP is done. No legal way of entry. 

Immigration Act In the name of his Mejesty King Bhumibol
Enacted on the 24Th of February B.E. 2522 The 34Th year of the present reign
Wherease it is deemed proper to revise the Law on immigration

Chapter 2
Entering and Department the Kingdom
Section 11: Persons entering into or departing the Kingdom must other and leave by way of
immigration check points , designated landing , stations or areas and in accordance to the prescribed
time as published in the Government Gazette by the Minister.
Section 12 : Aliens which fall into any of the following categories are excluded from entering into the
Kingdom :

1. Having no genuine and valid passport or document used in lieu of passport ; or having a
genuine and valid passport or document used in lieu of a passport without Visaing by the Royal Thai
Embassies or Consulates in Foreign countries ; or from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs , excepting if a visa
is not required for certain types of aliens in special instances.
Visaing and visa exemption will be under the learn and conditions as provided in the Ministerial
Regulations.
2. Having no appropriate means of living following entrance into the Kingdom.
3. Having entered into the Kingdom to take occupation as a laborer or to take employment by
using physical without skills training or to work in violation of the Ministerial Regulations.
4. Being mentally unstable or having any of the disease as prescribed in the Ministerial
Regulations.
5. Having not yet been vaccinated against smalllpox or inoculated or undergone any other
medical treatment for protection against disease and having refused to have such vaccinations
administered by the Immigration Doctor.
6. Having been imprisoned by the judgement of the Thai Court ; or by a lawful injunction ; or by
the judgement of the Court of foreign country , except when the penalty is foe petty offense or negligence
or is provided for as an exception in the Ministerial Regulations.

7. Having behavior which would indicated possible danger to the public or likelihood of being a
nuisance or constituting any violence to the peace or safety of the public or to the security of the public or
to the security of the nation , or being under warrant of arrest by competent officials of foreign
governments.

8. Reason to believe that entrance into the Kingdom was for the purpose of being involved in
prostitution , the trading of woman of children , drug smuggling , or other types of smuggling which are
contrary to the public morality.
9. Having no money or bond as prescribed by the Minister under him
10. Being a person prohibited by the Minister under Section 16.
11. Being deported by either the Government of Thailand that of or other foreign countries ; or
the right of stay in the Kingdom or in foreign countries having been revoked ; or having been sent out of
the Kingdom by competent officials at the expense of the Government of Thailand unless the Minister
shall consider exemption on an individual special case basis.
The examination and diagnosis of disease of a physical or mental nature , including protective
operations as against disease , shall be conducted by the Immigration Doctor.

If served prison sentence he would have been taken straight to IDC then deported at his own cost he will be blacklisted for how long not sure.

 

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