Johnson warns EU against any 'Napoleonic' tariffs in no-deal Brexit

[Enki]

On 6/26/2019 at 2:16 PM, jak2002003 said:

And what are the goods the EU will want from the UK, that they can't get from any other country?  I don't think we make much anymore do we?

Guiness and Cheddar. Oh wait, Guiness is from Dublin, main land Ireland which is EU and not UK ... 

[emptypockets]

3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

Then explain your use of the word curious. 

 

Disclaimer: I do not live in a computer simulated world, but do live in the real world. 

Please expand on that - where - what do you do?

[Bluespunk]

4 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Please expand on that - where - what do you do?

No. 

 

Its off topic. 

 

Though i have on many occasions made clear my chosen career in different threads. 

 

Do your research. 

[emptypockets]

3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

No. 

 

Its off topic. 

 

Though i have on many occasions made clear my chosen career in different threads. 

 

Do your research. 

I decline your kind offer - with thanks.....not that interested really.

[tebee]

15 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe.

 

The anthem of remainers.

 

 

Personally, I don’t think Labour voters are that shallow.

Well, we could find out by having another referendum....

[nontabury]

1 hour ago, tebee said:

That's because there are very few leave voters in labour - especially for no deal 

 

 

Correct as regarding Labour members,but not so regarding Labour voters.

The vast majority of those in the North are definitely Brexit supporters.

 

[nontabury]

2 hours ago, elliss said:

 

     Wont affect expats, directly or indirectly .

        Yorkshire forums , would be more suited , for your opinions..

      

 

 

 

 

 You obviously missed the section “ due to the over fishing in Our territorial waters by the E.u. fishing fleet”

 

 

[Scott]

Troll post removed.   People are under no obligation to reveal personal information, including their nationality.  

 

[nontabury]

7 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Without our consent; other than the 1975 referendum and the agreement of subsequent democratically elected British governments.

 

Because I was responding to posts about the Brexit party. I didn't mention England qualifying for the ICC World Cup semi finals for the same reason.

 

I thought the LibDems stunt to be pathetically childish.

 

I have sympathy with the SNP's reasons for acting as they did (I wonder if you know them; doubt it.) but believe joining the protesters outside would have been a better course of action.

 

I know that we do; and say so frequently!

 

Through our agreed contribution to the union of which we are still an active member.

 

Interesting that you refer to us British taxpayers in the third person!

 

He won't have a choice as he will no longer be a MEP; even Farage recognises he can't go on receiving a salary and perks when he's no longer in the job!

 

However, as long ago as December 2017 he emphatically stated that he would claim his MEP pension: Nigel Farage will take £73,000 EU pension ‘for sake of family’

 

I have not been able to find any statement from him since then in which he has changed his mind. I have also been unable to find any statement by him in which he says he will decline the large cash 'compensation' sitting British MEPs will receive when Brexit finally happens: British MEPs to bag lucrative post-Brexit payout.

 

Of course, British MEPs from all the other parties are the same, as far as I am aware none of them has said they will not claim this money; but unlike Farage they don't keep banging on about how wasteful the EU is and how much it costs us British taxpayers!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In 1975 we voted to join/remain in a trading block called the EEC. And at that time our political masters assured us that it would only be a trading block, and certainly not a political union. Since that date,until 2016 there has been no attempt to put the issue direct to the electorate.

 Unfortunately,I am amongst those British who contribute to this so called union.

 And why should Nigel Farage not claim his pension, payed for by his fellow countrymen, especially as he has so able represented us in Brussels for over 20 yrs. After all, those Brits who are so keen on us remaining in this so called union,do not hesitate to collect their 30 pieces of silver.

 

 

 

[petemoss]

42 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

Correct as regarding Labour members,but not so regarding Labour voters.

The vast majority of those in the North are definitely Brexit supporters.

 

 

In the referendum, 65% of labour voters voted remain.

[nontabury]

1 hour ago, Enki said:

Guiness and Cheddar. Oh wait, Guiness is from Dublin, main land Ireland which is EU and not UK ... 

 

Actually,I think you will find that the largest Guinness brewery was situated in the U.K. although it’s now the headquarters  Nigeria has the second. Ireland the third. Interestingly Guinness is part of the British Diageo group.

Edited July 5, 2019 by nontabury

[CG1 Blue]

15 hours ago, wilcopops said:

You just don't get it? In three years there is one item of "positive" news and Brexiteers cling to it as if it was there last glass of drinkable water........

"In three years there is one item of positive news"

 

I can't take you seriously if you say ridiculous things like that. 

Edited July 5, 2019 by CG1 Blue

[CG1 Blue]

18 hours ago, sandyf said:

NTT operates many sites in the UK under different names, mergers invariably mean rationalisation and job losses. London is already the global hub for Dimension Data, calling it the NTT HQ is nothing more than a publicity stunt.

I appreciate you are desperate for anything that may justify the brexit fiasco but you need to keep things in perspective.

Put it this way - if NTT had chosen to put their HQ in a different country, you can bet your life it would have been bad news, and no doubt would have been blamed on Brexit. 

They chose London for very good and positive reasons. Sorry to break the good news - I know most remainers don't like good news! 

 

We had better not talk about Landrover choosing to build their electric cars in the UK, protecting thousands of jobs. You lot will go into meltdown ????

[tebee]

2 hours ago, nontabury said:

 

Correct as regarding Labour members,but not so regarding Labour voters.

The vast majority of those in the North are definitely Brexit supporters.

 

it's taken from a Yougov survey done a month ago of members of the public, broken down by how they voted in 2017 not of lab members 

[Scott]

Troll post removed.   Please stay on topic and keep it civil.  

 

[7by7]

5 hours ago, nontabury said:

In 1975 we voted to join/remain in a trading block called the EEC. And at that time our political masters assured us that it would only be a trading block, and certainly not a political union. Since that date,until 2016 there has been no attempt to put the issue direct to the electorate.

 Unfortunately,I am amongst those British who contribute to this so called union.

As I said, all the changes since 1975 have been approved by the democratically elected UK government. I thought you believed in democracy!

 

5 hours ago, nontabury said:

Unfortunately,I am amongst those British who contribute to this so called union.

Does that make your opinion more valid?

 

If so, then you must discount the opinions of all those Brexiteers who live in Thailand unless they pay UK tax.

 

BTW, I live in the UK, work in the UK, pay tax in the UK.

 

5 hours ago, nontabury said:

 And why should Nigel Farage not claim his pension, payed for by his fellow countrymen,

I am not saying he shouldn't; just that it is hypocritical of him to do so given his track record and stated beliefs.

 

5 hours ago, nontabury said:

especially as he has so able represented us in Brussels for over 20 yrs.

Ably represented us? When he has one of the worst attendance records of any MEP; basically only turning up to satisfy the minimum requirement to collect his salary and expenses, or for some prearranged publicity stunt.

 

5 hours ago, nontabury said:

After all, those Brits who are so keen on us remaining in this so called union,do not hesitate to collect their 30 pieces of silver.

I see; when those with whom you disagree collect their salary and pension you call it a betrayal.

 

When your hero collects his, you call it just payment for services rendered.

 

Typical Brexiteer double standards.

[7by7]

4 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

<snip>

We had better not talk about Landrover choosing to build their electric cars in the UK, protecting thousands of jobs.

Announced all over the  UK media. Just one example, from the BBC: Jaguar Land Rover announces electric car investment

 

Yet more proof that those Brexiteers who claim the UK MSM are biased and ignore good economic news are, to be charitable, blinkered!

[7by7]

10 hours ago, nontabury said:

 

 

 According to today’s Yorkshire regional T.V. What now remains of the Yorkshire fishing fleet is about to collapse, due to the overfishing of Our territorial waters by the E.u. fleet. But don’t you worry your little head, as I don’t suppose it will directly effect you. 

 

 

I live in S.E. England, but travel all over the UK for work, often staying overnight.

 

I was recently watching a Calendar item in my room in a small hotel in Paull which said that it was EU quotas which had prevented the North Sea from being overfished to extinction.

 

Of course, YTV, like most UK broadcast media, do present both sides.

 

Those who would have us believe the UK fishing industry has been destroyed by the EU should read Statistics show where UK vessels fish and what is landed from our waters

[Johnyo]

Boris Johnson demands immigrants learn English
https://mol.im/a/7216475

Would be good if Brits living abroad would do the same, there are parts of Spain that resemble Butlins.

[vogie]

5 minutes ago, Johnyo said:

Boris Johnson demands immigrants learn English
https://mol.im/a/7216475

Would be good if Brits living abroad would do the same, there are parts of Spain that resemble Butlins.

Most Brits abroad already speak english, not sure of the point of your post other than to bait. Has it anything to do with the topic?

[petemoss]

32 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

Announced all over the  UK media. Just one example, from the BBC: Jaguar Land Rover announces electric car investment

 

Yet more proof that those Brexiteers who claim the UK MSM are biased and ignore good economic news are, to be charitable, blinkered!

"JLR announced in January that it would cut 4,500 jobs, mostly in the UK, adding to 1,500 redundancies in 2018. The company, owned by Indian conglomerate Tata, has previously warned that a no-deal Brexit could cost it up to £1.2bn a year."

 

Do you think that the possible jobs created by making electric cars will offset this?

[Johnyo]

Most Brits abroad already speak english, not sure of the point of your post other than to bait. Has it anything to do with the topic?

If you find ignorance as bait that is your problem, locals find it highly insulting that the level of Spanish of Brits is una cerveza por favor.

 

 

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[petemoss]

5 minutes ago, Johnyo said:

If you find ignorance as bait that is your problem, locals find it highly insulting that the level of Spanish of Brits is una cerveza por favor.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

Still doesn't explain what the hell this has to do with Brexit and the possible level of tariffs set upon the UK post Brexit, therefore one can only conclude that you are a troll.

 

 

Edited July 6, 2019 by petemoss

[nauseus]

18 minutes ago, Johnyo said:

Boris Johnson demands immigrants learn English
https://mol.im/a/7216475

Would be good if Brits living abroad would do the same, there are parts of Spain that resemble Butlins.

Terrible thing to say. They are EU citizens!

[7by7]

42 minutes ago, petemoss said:

"JLR announced in January that it would cut 4,500 jobs, mostly in the UK, adding to 1,500 redundancies in 2018. The company, owned by Indian conglomerate Tata, has previously warned that a no-deal Brexit could cost it up to £1.2bn a year."

 

Do you think that the possible jobs created by making electric cars will offset this?

 

I doubt it will save all the lost UK jobs, but it will save some.

 

Particularly if UK manufacturers take up Dr. Speth's call to produce the fuel cells for the batteries here instead of, as currently, importing them from China and elsewhere.  

[bartender100]

Stick it up them Ann, well done

 

 

[candide]

12 hours ago, nontabury said:

 

 

 According to today’s Yorkshire regional T.V. What now remains of the Yorkshire fishing fleet is about to collapse, due to the overfishing of Our territorial waters by the E.u. fleet. But don’t you worry your little head, as I don’t suppose it will directly effect you. 

 

It is surprising because quotas are defined to avoid overfishing. Fishermen usually complain they are not allowed to fish more rather than the contrary. It is more likely to be an issue of fishing rights (which are subject to UK law, not EU law, by the way).

[sandyf]

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

 

I doubt it will save all the lost UK jobs, but it will save some.

 

Particularly if UK manufacturers take up Dr. Speth's call to produce the fuel cells for the batteries here instead of, as currently, importing them from China and elsewhere.  

Brexit has put the UK labour force's back against the wall, fighting a rearguard action on job losses. What job creation is taking place is just an offset to the overall flow.

Once the UK is out of the single market it will not make logistical sense for a company to manufacture in the UK and then export, as opposed to what is currently a domestic sale.

Profit is a significant driving force and the fall in sterling has made a huge impact, as the years go bye foreign companies will be looking at options that will provide a better return. Because they haven't come out and said so the brexiteers will keep their head in the sand believing it will never happen, they have to cling on to something.

Just glad that my time on the planet is nearly over.

Edited July 6, 2019 by sandyf

[tebee]

2 hours ago, sandyf said:

Brexit has put the UK labour force's back against the wall, fighting a rearguard action on job losses. What job creation is taking place is just an offset to the overall flow.

Once the UK is out of the single market it will not make logistical sense for a company to manufacture in the UK and then export, as opposed to what is currently a domestic sale.

Profit is a significant driving force and the fall in sterling has made a huge impact, as the years go bye foreign companies will be looking at options that will provide a better return. Because they haven't come out and said so the brexiteers will keep their head in the sand believing it will never happen, they have to cling on to something.

Just glad that my time on the planet is nearly over.

Ever the brexiters tame economist, professor Minford, said brexit would destroy almost all manufacturing jobs, so it's only to be expected.

 

I'm not convinced service jobs can fill  in the slack  for all those made unemployed through this.   

[expatfromwyoming]

Boris and Trump obviously went to the same school and it wasn't mensa.