Here's a little quiz to tell if you have succumbed to BDS!

Truthful answers only!

After reading that quiz, I'd like to quote one of my sister's favourite sayings, if I may?

"Give me 20p and I'll phone someone who gives a sh!t".

Thank you.

the whole premise is that you have enemies .......................................

US casualties in Iraq : Dead 3,233 Wounded 23,924

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops..._casualties.htm

Iraqi civilian casualties seem to be estimated around 60,000 dead

although nobody is keeping official count. I also get the impression

this figure does not include "insurgent" casualties.

But the important thing is for jingoistic armchair-warrior jerk-offs

to maintain their sense of humour even when their political heroes

are having more and more difficulty explaining why the US was led

into such a clusterf*ck of a quagmire.

But the important thing is for jingoistic armchair-warrior jerk-offs

to maintain their sense of humour even when their political heroes

are having more and more difficulty explaining why the US was led

into such a clusterf*ck of a quagmire.

Notice how few of them ever say "I just got back from Iraq and....."

the whole premise is that you have enemies .......................................

Actually I have a theory rattling around in the back of my brain

(plenty of room there) that there are factions in the United States

that NEED enemies.

The fall of the Berlin wall symbolised the fall of Communism so

there went the bogeyman "Commie".

He had to be replaced.

He was , by (originally) Arab groups who had previously not

held it against the Yankees for staunchly supporting Israel.

It took a lot of ham-handed interference and military intervention

in the Middle East to create the germ

of a demon who could replace the lost "commie". It took a

while (and a few casualties) but now the armchair hawks have

a new enemy , on a satisfactory global scale.

To simplify things for their less discriminating citizens it is now

fashionable to characterise this new enemy simply as "muslim".

Nice one.

Loon ... I thought you might actually READ books .... but apparently it is just Fox News and Ultra-right-wing silliness on the web

edit:

errr Boon ... that actually WAS a typo ...

But the important thing is for jingoistic armchair-warrior jerk-offs

to maintain their sense of humour even when their political heroes

are having more and more difficulty explaining why the US was led

into such a clusterf*ck of a quagmire.

Notice how few of them ever say "I just got back from Iraq and....."

Well, if y'all get yer news from CNN and read the NY Times/Beeb etc with total exclusion to those testimonials from returning Vets...

But the important thing is for jingoistic armchair-warrior jerk-offs

to maintain their sense of humour even when their political heroes

are having more and more difficulty explaining why the US was led

into such a clusterf*ck of a quagmire.

Notice how few of them ever say "I just got back from Iraq and....."

Well, if y'all get yer news from CNN and read the NY Times/Beeb etc with total exclusion to those testimonials from returning Vets...

Actually, I was talking about the armchair warriors who fight this war safely on the internet from home.

I've had plenty of testimonials from live returning vets. Few are very positive.

Well, Thomas Sowell makes an excellent point about the way the leftist media "support the troops":

"The front cover of Newsweek's March 5th issue featured a woman with amputated legs and a sweatshirt that said "ARMY" across the front. Inside, there were pages and pages of other pictures of badly wounded and disfigured military veterans, in a long article that began under the big headline: "Forgotten Heroes."

The utter hypocrisy of all this can be seen in the word "heroes." There have been many acts of heroism among our troops in Iraq -- but those heroes didn't make the front cover of Newsweek.

One man fell on a grenade to protect his buddies, smothering the fatal blast with his body, so that those around him might live when he died. But that never made the front cover of Newsweek. It was barely mentioned anywhere in the liberal media.

They are not interested in heroes. They are interested in depicting victims -- in the military as in civilian society...

After generations of dumbed-down education in our schools, perhaps it is inevitable that there would be large numbers of people who have no way of separating rhetoric from reality.

The reality is that many of those in the media and in politics who are constantly talking about "supporting our troops" or "honoring our troops" have for years been in the forefront of those criticizing or undermining the military, long before the Iraq war."

Kinda hits the nail on the head.

It seems like almost all of the bloviating against the Iraq war has focused on the toll it has taken on the vets. This is seen in the daily death counts - the talking heads droning on about the latest explosions/car bombs etc. How horrible and tragic it all is. And, you may have noticed there are only two situations that exist for journalism on the U.S. military: Either, they are the poor helpless victims of an oppressive military system and the current administration which horribly abuses them. Or, they are the brutal, savage, sadistic psychopaths that enjoy inflicting death and misery and who are encouraged to do so by the oppressive military system and the current political administration.

Notice anything familiar about these two examples? They just happen to dovetail nicely with the same old, tired marxist view of the world, where a person is either one of the "oppressed" victims or one of the brutal "oppressors".

I fail to see how being upset that 3000+ soldiers were sent to their deaths over non-existant WMDs while the perpatrator of actual terrorist attacks was allowed to escape has anything to do with marxism.

But I guess when your entire arguement is nothing more than cut/pastes of other people's thinking you make due with what you can google.

I fail to see how being upset that 3000+ soldiers were sent to their deaths over non-existant WMDs while the perpatrator of actual terrorist attacks was allowed to escape has anything to do with marxism.

But I guess when your entire arguement is nothing more than cut/pastes of other people's thinking you make due with what you can google.

Well, my entire arguement (sic) is based upon the lack of spine so many exhibit when faced with the very real Islamofascist threat that even those in the frozen tundra face...

But the important thing is for jingoistic armchair-warrior jerk-offs

to maintain their sense of humour even when their political heroes

are having more and more difficulty explaining why the US was led

into such a clusterf*ck of a quagmire.

Notice how few of them ever say "I just got back from Iraq and....."

Well, if y'all get yer news from CNN and read the NY Times/Beeb etc with total exclusion to those testimonials from returning Vets...

Actually, I was talking about the armchair warriors who fight this war safely on the internet from home.

I've had plenty of testimonials from live returning vets. Few are very positive.

My nephew was in the Natl Guard and had horror stories about the way the military treated Guardsmen (and women). I fail to see how supporting a pointless war in Iraq is supporting men and women who have been screwed over and over again by the US govt. First, it was Guard and Reserve not getting paid for months on end (my nephew was on active duty and did not get paid for 9 months). Now it is the scandalous way the VA hospitals are being underfunded and badly run, to the detriment of the men and women who have served.

Feel free to Google any news source of your choice to get the details of how poorly mismanaged and badly run this "war" is. Then tell me about support. When townspeople have to hold bake sales to send body armor to men and women serving in Iraq then there is something seriously wrong. And all your half baked theories won't answer that question.

Sorry, Boon, but you are talking out of your ass with this one.

Sorry, Boon, but you are talking out of your ass with this one.

Not at all, sbk.

Go here to post #127 to get my "drift'.

Well, my entire arguement (sic) is based upon the lack of spine so many exhibit when faced with the very real Islamofascist threat that even those in the frozen tundra face...

No shortage of people from the frozen tundra hunting REAL terrorists while pretenders sit safely in their chairs pasting other people's arguements.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lfJJrBCPB3w

Your specific job skills are in high demand over there boon... why are you at home?

Sorry, Boon, but you are talking out of your ass with this one.

Not at all, sbk.

Go here to post #127 to get my "drift'.

how about a rephrase?

There is something profoundly wrong when opposition to war is considered to be treason.

Looks like he ran off again.

Is he embarrassed at disparaging the people in that video with his "lack of spine" comment while he hides behind a monitor and keyboard where it's nice and safe and his job skills are in high demand in the war zone?

Off to find an answer he can paste in response?

Try thinking up your own answer. New things are worth a try.

Here's some more "spineless" people from the frozen tundra in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_S9P1kMNuM

Of course they're not as brave as the guy sitting at his keyboard who can't speak for himself.

So tell me what part of pasting propaganda into a web forum makes you braver than the person who posts rebuttals to it?

Is it somehow more dangerous?

As far as I'm concerned, so long as you are sitting there safe and sound beating the war drums with other people doing the fighting and dying then yes, you are talking out your ass.

You don't have more of a spine than anyone. You're just a guy who pastes blog entries into a forum. As far as the war on terror goes. You're nothing.

The "spineless" men and women from the frozen north in those clips do mean something. You, and your puny cut and pastes, are nothing.

Now sit back in that safe, comfortable chair and lie to yourself that you really make any difference in this battle. Because outside of that chair and a few forums, nobody notices you.

The sad part is that no-one truly supports the military personel. The DEMs say it to not lose ground to the GOP, and the GOP say it since they try to reinforces the idea that they support the nation, when infact they aren't interested in anything but to support the military industrial complexes that keeps being founded by the government and that, in short, badly needs wars and threats.

And if you are a wounded soldier that aint gonna return to active duty you are truly a worthless piece of human has-been...that must be the only reason they knowingly have been abandoning veterans in EVERY MAJOR WAR OR CONFLICT the last 100 years.

Here's some more "spineless" people from the frozen tundra in action.

He he...sounds like we've struck a nerve with the term spineless, eh?

how about a rephrase?

There is something profoundly wrong when opposition to war is considered to be treason.

Who's talking treason?

Haven't mentioned Hanoi Jane once in this thread so far...

Here's some more "spineless" people from the frozen tundra in action.

He he...sounds like we've struck a nerve with the term spineless, eh?

You ignore everything said because you have no answer, and then laugh after insulting a whole group of people by flaunting your ignorance. Bloody troll.

Call me spineless all you want.

But it's a little rich coming from someone sitting cowardly in a chair while he urges others on to fight.

Still haven't answered why you aren't putting yourself in Iraq.

Spine missing?

Cut & paste doesn't work against IEDs?

Come on armchair warrior. Where's your spine?

Here's some more "spineless" people from the frozen tundra in action.

He he...sounds like we've struck a nerve with the term spineless, eh?

Call me spineless all you want.

But it's a little rich coming from someone sitting cowardly in a chair while he urges others on to fight.

Hey! If the shoe fits....?

No where was I specifically referring to your exhaulted self in those terms but it does seem the 'lady protestith too much', eh?

BTW, the Surge appears to be working - how 'bout them apples!

Still haven't answered why you aren't putting yourself in Iraq.

Been there, done that - my little fracas was in SE Asia...

Hey! If the shoe fits....?

I'm not sitting here defending the war, that's the difference. I don't think the whole thing should have started in the first place. So where am I being the armchair warrior?

If this is the depth of your cognitive and literary skills then maybe it explains why you just paste other people's words into here, because when you use your own you show yourself to be terribly outgunned.

Going to Iraq yet, or still hiding behind the monitor?

Still haven't answered why you aren't putting yourself in Iraq.

Been there, done that - my little fracas was in SE Asia...

Excellent. You have the training and experience that will serve you well while you help get Iraq's petroleum industry going again. They're advertising for people right now.

Still haven't answered why you aren't putting yourself in Iraq.

Been there, done that - my little fracas was in SE Asia...

Excellent. You have the training and experience that will serve you well while you help get Iraq's petroleum industry going again. They're advertising for people right now.

Oh yeah?

Well, I prefer to "sit here behind my monitor" and annoy you for right now!

Man...haven't had this much fun since the Gent/Tornado was posting here!

Here we go again, boring! Why are you allowed to continue to troll?

Still haven't answered why you aren't putting yourself in Iraq.

Been there, done that - my little fracas was in SE Asia...

Excellent. You have the training and experience that will serve you well while you help get Iraq's petroleum industry going again. They're advertising for people right now.

Oh yeah?

Well, I prefer to "sit here behind my monitor" and annoy you for right now!

Man...haven't had this much fun since the Gent/Tornado was posting here!

And there you have the modus operandi.

Take it all with a pinch of salt, as the above is the real purpose of the posts.