rooster59 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 The Nation ceases publication after 48 years After 48 years on the newsstands, The Nation, Thailand’s leading English-language daily known for its independent and aggressive news reporting, publishes its last print edition today. The newspaper, which will continue its news service on-line, is the latest victim of the disruptive technology that has rattled the media industry for years. Like most other newspapers, it has been struggling financially for several consecutive years with declining circulations and advertising revenue. “Undoubtedly, the new chapter is challenging but it also contains rich promises since it comes hot on the heels of technological disruption which has swept virtually every sector of the economy and people’s way of life…,” the paper said in its front-page farewell message headlined “A new beginning at 48”. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/the-nation-ceases-publication-after-48-years/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2019-06-28 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khwaibah Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 ???????? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Bob Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I thought that was the Bangkok Post they were talking about. Just one less tree to be cut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post brucegoniners Posted June 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2019 That's the way of the world. Hardly anyone under 55 reads a physical newspaper anymore. I'm 61 and I haven't for years. They can invest their print budget on better reporting. I'm glad they're still around! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rick44 Posted June 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) The move to online publishing doesn't look promising. The Nation doesn't even know to label advertorials as advertising. People from developed countries are used to a press that is not screwing around with its readers, but labeling clearly what is news and what is advertising. Edited June 28, 2019 by rick44 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Puchaiyank Posted June 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2019 OMG...Where am I going to find paper to place on the floor for my dog to do his business? ???? 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, rick44 said: The move to online publishing doesn't look promising. The Nation doesn't even know to label advertorials as advertising. People from developed countries are used to a press that is not screwing around with its readers, but labeling clearly what is news and what is advertising. The Thai public are notoriously lambasted with crass advertising. And in fairness, there are some brilliant ads too, better than the soaps. But a recent crass example, me and Mrs Joke were getting frisky, YouTube was on the screen providing the chill mood music, suddenly, that clownish Somchai whose voiceovers seem to be everywhere, was yelling at us about some crap we didn't need. Quickly clicked on YouTube to open the same channel in my VPN screened YouTube account, one skippable ad after the first song, then an hour of uninterrupted good vibes. It's all about socialization. 11 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said: OMG...Where am I going to find paper to place on the floor for my dog to do his business? ???? Plenty of Thai rags, cheaper, and will be around for a while due to the tek dinosaurs that devour them by the millions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 And for the online forum... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluesofa Posted June 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, rooster59 said: The Nation, Thailand’s leading English-language daily known for its independent and aggressive news reporting, publishes its last print edition today. Hmm, I think that must be 'aggressive news reporting' by Thai standards, not European. From what I've seen here no reporter would say boo to a goose. Edited June 28, 2019 by bluesofa grammar 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin case Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 "disruptive technology" looooooooooooool do you hear the PORN vendors complain ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 For a hard copy Eng. daily newspaper available on sale at my local Asia Books that leaves the Bangkok Post and the International New York Times. Plus the FT Weekend Edition That will be OK for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post londonthai Posted June 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) Nobody will miss this rug on thai airways international flights and on the other airlines. They had little individual subscribers, the majority were from the government institutions. Nobody wants dinosaur propaganda. The last independent journalist, pavin, was fired some 3 years ago for protesting against junta. He is now an editor in khaosod Edited June 28, 2019 by londonthai 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPKANKAN Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, brucegoniners said: That's the way of the world. Hardly anyone under 55 reads a physical newspaper anymore. I'm 61 and I haven't for years. They can invest their print budget on better reporting. I'm glad they're still around! What!!! Not read one for years!!! I do the Bangkok Post crossword in the one at our local bar!!! 5555 ???????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdenner Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Mango Bob said: I thought that was the Bangkok Post they were talking about. Just one less tree to be cut down. No problem! BigC, Tesco, Makro etc. are still supplying me with enough paper to start my rubbish fire! The norm here in the 20th century Isaan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, brucegoniners said: That's the way of the world. Hardly anyone under 55 reads a physical newspaper anymore. I'm 61 and I haven't for years. They can invest their print budget on better reporting. I'm glad they're still around! I'll pick up a paper and read it, but I won't turn on a computer, get cookies tracking me, get blasted with ads tailored to what I read, just to read something on line. I will google something I want to know though, as long as I don't have to wade through a load of irrelevant stuff to get what I want. Reading a paper, while sitting in a deckchair on the beach is completely different experience from reading something on line. I will come on something like TVF as it's an interactive media, but I wouldn't if I could only read it. Anyway, IMO conventional news media is doomed, as it is just gutter reporting now, and deserves to be put out of its misery. I get most of my news from radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Aggressive news reporting? That's a new one to me! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 3 hours ago, bluesofa said: Hmm, I think that must be 'aggressive news reporting' by Thai standards, not European. From what I've seen here no reporter would say boo to a goose. Calling anyone who wrote the garbage dished up a reporter was really a stretch of the imagination. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Somtamnication said: Aggressive news reporting? That's a new one to me! As aggressive as a limp d*ck and about as useful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said: I'll pick up a paper and read it, but I won't turn on a computer, get cookies tracking me, get blasted with ads tailored to what I read, just to read something on line. I will google something I want to know though, as long as I don't have to wade through a load of irrelevant stuff to get what I want. Reading a paper, while sitting in a deckchair on the beach is completely different experience from reading something on line. I will come on something like TVF as it's an interactive media, but I wouldn't if I could only read it. Anyway, IMO conventional news media is doomed, as it is just gutter reporting now, and deserves to be put out of its misery. I get most of my news from radio. Use DuckDuckGo search engine and you won't be tracked. Edited June 28, 2019 by Artisi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inepto Cracy Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Artisi said: Use DuckDuckGo search engine and you won't be tracked. Use startpage dot com even better than the duck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I'll pick up a paper and read it, but I won't turn on a computer, get cookies tracking me, get blasted with ads tailored to what I read, just to read something on line. I will google something I want to know though, as long as I don't have to wade through a load of irrelevant stuff to get what I want. Reading a paper, while sitting in a deckchair on the beach is completely different experience from reading something on line. I will come on something like TVF as it's an interactive media, but I wouldn't if I could only read it. Anyway, IMO conventional news media is doomed, as it is just gutter reporting now, and deserves to be put out of its misery. I get most of my news from radio. http://www.wrx.zen.co.uk/alltnews.htm Readers might find this useful for on line newspapers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Inepto Cracy said: Use startpage dot com even better than the duck. how is it better....anyway the pages you visit track you not just the SEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Suradit69 Posted June 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2019 7 hours ago, bluesofa said: must be 'aggressive news reporting' by Thai standards, not European. Well it's difficult to match European standards 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 10 hours ago, Bipolar said: When are they closing their digital version as well? When the Russians or Chinese shoot down all the satellites. Then we can forget the Internet. All we are left with are radio communication on short wave radio. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fex Bluse Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 It's a tricky situation. The only decent English language reporting is generally by foreigners who speak English natively. However, the foreigners often don't have the inside details the Thai reporters have but are unwilling to report on. The whole of the Thai news industry is a total waste of space. The best news comes from gossip of connected people. Mostly, nearly everyone in Thailand, foreigners and Thais alike, is routinely uninformed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 12 hours ago, Artisi said: Use DuckDuckGo search engine and you won't be tracked. I'm sorry, but they are always "tracking" us, regardless of the propaganda. Anyone using a smart phone has no secrets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said: It's a tricky situation. The only decent English language reporting is generally by foreigners who speak English natively. However, the foreigners often don't have the inside details the Thai reporters have but are unwilling to report on. The whole of the Thai news industry is a total waste of space. The best news comes from gossip of connected people. Mostly, nearly everyone in Thailand, foreigners and Thais alike, is routinely uninformed. The two English language national papers are way ahead of the papers where I live for actual news. I wouldn't waste my time reading them, whereas I used to enjoy reading the Thai English language papers, especially on the plane. I stopped buying them when they put the price up, but I'd read them in the hotels or restaurants if provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soi3eddie Posted June 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2019 16 hours ago, brucegoniners said: They can invest their print budget on better reporting. But the problem is that there is no free press in Thailand. Say or report on something that the leaders don't like and you'll be banged up or shut down immediately. Sad but true. The press is very afraid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 Chalk up another kill for Payuth and co. The old establishment that used to back coups so that the military could then hand them power have found themselves redundant - the proverbial used condoms laying in the gutter. Up next, Democrat Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted June 29, 2019 Share Posted June 29, 2019 The demise of The Nation can be attributed to some very poor management under two individuals with the same name (careful - computer law). But the rot set in back in 97 when the Asian financial crisis hammered many companies. That was followed by the Thaksin era when the megalomaniac made The Nation pay dearly for its opposition to him by withdrawing advertising by his companies and government departments. IMO The Nation had many fine and fearless writers (Suthichai Yoon, Thepchai Yong, Sophon Onkgara, to name just a few), but you can carry the torch for only so long. The relentless pressure from the military and the military backed establishment has also scared off many would-be journalists, leaving mostly hacks happy to engage in press release journalism. The Nation still does publish the occasional piece critical of those who deserve criticism, but it's no longer The Thunderer that we so badly need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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