UK economy shrinks as Brexit, global worries mount: PMI

[nontabury]

19 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

Pretty much every industrialist and economist is making exactly the same statements. One can have blind faith and dismiss the overwhelming consensus as a huge conspiracy or one can be logical and take the warnings on board.

Its odd , when buying a new car or domestic appliance most sensible people read expert opinion and proceed accordingly.

Strangely though when it comes to the biggest decision for decades , huge amounts of people not only reject expert opinion , they seem to find resentment in it even being offered.

 

 But,presumably you think it’s ok for these people to be in charge of the corrupt E.u. 

 

 

[Johnyo]

There is warm fuzzy feeling every time I look at the GBP rate against the Baht. All the old fools that believe in patriotism struggling with their measly pension. At lest they will have the illusion they are getting their country back. I have some news for you, your country and the politicians that run it care as much about you as the EU cares about you, zero, you are nothing to them apart from a vote and as you all live here you’re not even that, they freeze your pensions and deny you access to the NHS but hey you will get blue passports. As a great thinker once said.

 

““Every miserable fool who has nothing at all of which he can be proud, adopts as a last resource pride in the nation to which he belongs; he is ready and happy to defend all its faults and follies tooth and nail, thus reimbursing himself for his own inferiority “

 

 

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[nauseus]

3 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Looks like, as ever, someone simply cannot face the truth that not only was he was lied to by Elliot and Cummings, he was foolish enough to believe those lies!

I don't even know who you're talking about.

[7by7]

9 hours ago, nauseus said:

12 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Looks like, as ever, someone simply cannot face the truth that not only was he was lied to by Elliot and Cummings, he was foolish enough to believe those lies!

I don't even know who you're talking about.

Really?

 

That you don't even know who the architects and strategists of Vote Leave were; the people who basically wrote everything the official leave campaign said, including the lie on Boris's bus; the people who have been regularly in the news here in the UK over allegations of electoral fraud during the campaign; explains a lot!

 

 

[bkk6060]

The UK certainly appears to be a country in decline.

Seems a much bigger decline maybe even depression is coming.

Very sad indeed....

[nauseus]

38 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

Really?

 

That you don't even know who the architects and strategists of Vote Leave were; the people who basically wrote everything the official leave campaign said, including the lie on Boris's bus; the people who have been regularly in the news here in the UK over allegations of electoral fraud during the campaign; explains a lot!

 

 

Ah. Now I remember. I didn't really take much notice of Vote Leave. My mind was made up way before that.

[bkk6060]

Last time I visited it was 1.7 to the dollar.

Bagel and a coffee around 15 bucks.

Now around 1.2

When it gets to 1=1, I think I might pay a visit.

 

[7by7]

3 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Ah. Now I remember. I didn't really take much notice of Vote Leave. My mind was made up way before that.

 

Pathetic.

[nauseus]

20 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 

Pathetic.

Why? Angry because I didn't take much notice of them either? 

[7by7]

30 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Why? Angry because I didn't take much notice of them either? 

No.

 

What's pathetic is your feeble excuse for not knowing the names of the men whose claims, misinformation and downright lies you have been repeating parrot fashion for the last three years!

[expatfromwyoming]

The Brexiters’ fantasy of a virile Britain freed from the straitjacket of EU regulations—many of which, e.g. those relating to working hours, health and safety, environmental protection etc, are designed to prevent capitalists in one member nation from unfairly competing with others—are crashing against harsh reality: Britain’s dependence on the European market compels it to maintain close alignment with the EU, whether or not it is formally a member. But if it is ceases to be a member of the EU, it will have no seat at the table where decisions are made. And if it isn’t sitting at the table, it will be on the menu.

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, 7by7 said:

No.

 

What's pathetic is your feeble excuse for not knowing the names of the men whose claims, misinformation and downright lies you have been repeating parrot fashion for the last three years!

Why should I remember the names of people I didn't listen to much before and what claims, misinformation and downright lies have I been parroting for 3 years?  

[nauseus]

11 minutes ago, expatfromwyoming said:

The Brexiters’ fantasy of a virile Britain freed from the straitjacket of EU regulations—many of which, e.g. those relating to working hours, health and safety, environmental protection etc, are designed to prevent capitalists in one member nation from unfairly competing with others—are crashing against harsh reality: Britain’s dependence on the European market compels it to maintain close alignment with the EU, whether or not it is formally a member. But if it is ceases to be a member of the EU, it will have no seat at the table where decisions are made. And if it isn’t sitting at the table, it will be on the menu.

Oh my. Never heard that before!

[aright]

 

5 hours ago, nauseus said:

Why? Angry because I didn't take much notice of them either? 

Surely you remember it dear boy. It was the same time Remainers were virtue signaling that Leavers were rascist because they disagreed with the free movement of people. It was the same time there were complaints about MEP's rubber stamping EU law into UK law because it was a directive or there was not enough time to discuss it.

This ran in parallel with Remainers are uneducated and should not be allowed to vote on things they don't understand leading to their current position its not that the EU is a wonderful place its because Britain is evil and always has been and only they know what's best for 66 million people. You can't fault their loyalty though they voted  were given a flag and an anthem.

Did someone say pathetic and parrot over the last 3 years?

[nauseus]

17 minutes ago, aright said:

 

Surely you remember it dear boy. It was the same time Remainers were virtue signaling that Leavers were rascist because they disagreed with the free movement of people. It was the same time there were complaints about MEP's rubber stamping EU law into UK law because it was a directive or there was not enough time to discuss it.

This ran in parallel with Remainers are uneducated and should not be allowed to vote on things they don't understand leading to their current position its not that the EU is a wonderful place its because Britain is evil and always has been and only they know what's best for 66 million people. You can't fault their loyalty though they voted  were given a flag and an anthem.

Did someone say pathetic and parrot over the last 3 years?

It's all coming back now, thanks.

Who's a pretty boy then? ????  

[Paul52]

 
 
Your negative comments are duly noted..
 
 
 
......and ignored.

Ignorance is bliss for the cognitively challenged and wilfully ignorant.


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[Jip99]

1 hour ago, Paul52 said:

Ignorance is bliss for the cognitively challenged and wilfully ignorant.


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Thanks for the supporting confirmation.

[Loiner]

10 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

The UK certainly appears to be a country in decline.

Seems a much bigger decline maybe even depression is coming.

Very sad indeed....

If the EU is so wonderful for all concerned, why is the UK a country in decline? Such a state does not develop in the short term and was not precipitated by the result of the referendum. In many respects, notably those that appear of being in decline, this is due to being a part of the EU.

When we are eventually out the decline will stop and then it's 'Hello boom time'.

Very up lifting for the rest of us.

[billd766]

On 7/3/2019 at 6:43 PM, dutchdude said:

watch out folks, a bankdirector cries Wolf

 

On 7/3/2019 at 6:43 PM, dutchdude said:

 

 

I wouldn't trust Bank of England Governor Mark Carney with the contents of my sons piggy bank. IMHO HE is the biggest disaster for Brexit and the UK.

 

One of the most negative people in the UK and definitely anti Brexit. A first class doom and gloom merchant.

 

Most of his forecasts since 2016 have been wrong. 

[billd766]

On 7/5/2019 at 1:03 AM, sawadee1947 said:

Is it democratic to hide facts and to tell lies?

I think it's a right for democracy to review decisions

A good idea.

 

Shall we start back in the 1970s when the UK joined the EEC?

 

I wonder what lies and items that were not mentioned actually did get mentioned and the truth were told. Do you think that the UK would have joined the Common Market back then?

 

I think that it would be democratic to review that decision, which in its turn brought Brexit along.

[Chomper Higgot]

43 minutes ago, Loiner said:

If the EU is so wonderful for all concerned, why is the UK a country in decline? Such a state does not develop in the short term and was not precipitated by the result of the referendum. In many respects, notably those that appear of being in decline, this is due to being a part of the EU.

When we are eventually out the decline will stop and then it's 'Hello boom time'.

Very up lifting for the rest of us.

In what respects is the UK 'in decline'?

[stephenterry]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

In what respects is the UK 'in decline'?

Perhaps the clue is in the topic heading..?

[sawadee1947]

33 minutes ago, billd766 said:

A good idea.

 

Shall we start back in the 1970s when the UK joined the EEC?

 

I wonder what lies and items that were not mentioned actually did get mentioned and the truth were told. Do you think that the UK would have joined the Common Market back then?

 

I think that it would be democratic to review that decision, which in its turn brought Brexit along.

I'll buy it. But then please do the next step and let people vote again after more than 3 years revealed new facts. Haggis or Caviar... ????

[nkg]

On 7/5/2019 at 1:01 PM, 7by7 said:

Looks like, as ever, someone simply cannot face the truth that not only was he was lied to by Elliot and Cummings, he was foolish enough to believe those lies!

 

Who is "Elliot"? If he is as famous as you claim, surely everyone would know that Matthew Elliott's surname is spelt with 2 T's ????

 

Interestingly, when you Google search for "Elliott" and "Cummings", you get the search I've shown below.

 

It seems that even Google don't know who these guys are - they aren't on page 1 or page 2, they don't surface until page 3 in an article published by The Guardian.

 

 

 

Edited July 6, 2019 by nkg
Brexit

[nauseus]

7 minutes ago, nkg said:

 

Who is "Elliot"? If he is as famous as you claim, surely everyone would know that his surname is spelt with 2 T's ????

 

Interestingly, when you Google search for "Elliott" and "Cummings", you get the search I've shown below.

 

It seems that even Google don't know who these guys are - they aren't on page 1 or page 2, they don't surface until page 3 in an article published by The Guardian.

 

 

 

Thanks, I thought they must have been solicitors, at first glance. ????

Edited July 6, 2019 by nauseus

[nkg]

16 hours ago, 7by7 said:

No.

 

What's pathetic is your feeble excuse for not knowing the names of the men whose claims, misinformation and downright lies you have been repeating parrot fashion for the last three years!

 

You don't seem to know their names either .......

[7by7]

19 hours ago, nauseus said:

Why should I remember the names of people I didn't listen to much before and what claims, misinformation and downright lies have I been parroting for 3 years?  

So you have neither listened to nor believed anything those spokespersons and poster peoples for the leave campaign, such as Boris Johnson, said?

 

Strange, as you've been repeating their claims, misinformation and downright lies parrot fashion for 3 years.

 

Which ones? All of them.

[nauseus]

7 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

So you have neither listened to nor believed anything those spokespersons and poster peoples for the leave campaign, such as Boris Johnson, said?

 

Strange, as you've been repeating their claims, misinformation and downright lies parrot fashion for 3 years.

 

Which ones? All of them.

Then show me just one. ???? 

[7by7]

13 hours ago, nkg said:

 

Who is "Elliot"? If he is as famous as you claim, surely everyone would know that Matthew Elliott's surname is spelt with 2 T's ????

 

Apologies for the spelling mistake; you have obviously never made one in your entire life.

 

13 hours ago, nkg said:

Interestingly, when you Google search for "Elliott" and "Cummings", you get the search I've shown below.

 

It seems that even Google don't know who these guys are - they aren't on page 1 or page 2, they don't surface until page 3 in an article published by The Guardian.

When I did a Google search for 'Matthew Elliot,' the results are very different!

 

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGGE___GB823GB823&biw=1242&bih=568&ei=flshXdj9IZHPwQL5zKHgDw&q=Matthew+Elliott&oq=Matthew+Elliott&gs_l=psy-ab.12...0.0..185553...0.0..0.0.0.......0......gws-wiz.GEgP-moYeuA

 

The same when doing a search for Dominic Cummings: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGGE___GB823GB823&biw=1242&bih=568&ei=0VwhXffBEcHKwQKXwLfYCQ&q=Dominic+Cummings&oq=Dominic+Cummings&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0j0i67l2j0l7.18847.27284..31099...0.0..0.347.6454.2-9j12......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i71j0i131j0i131i67._YCXE4i1IG8

 

 

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, 7by7 said:

 

Apologies for the spelling mistake; you have obviously never made one in your entire life.

 

When I did a Google search for 'Matthew Elliot,' the results are very different!

 

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGGE___GB823GB823&biw=1242&bih=568&ei=flshXdj9IZHPwQL5zKHgDw&q=Matthew+Elliott&oq=Matthew+Elliott&gs_l=psy-ab.12...0.0..185553...0.0..0.0.0.......0......gws-wiz.GEgP-moYeuA

 

The same when doing a search for Dominic Cummings: https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGGE___GB823GB823&biw=1242&bih=568&ei=0VwhXffBEcHKwQKXwLfYCQ&q=Dominic+Cummings&oq=Dominic+Cummings&gs_l=psy-ab.12..0j0i67l2j0l7.18847.27284..31099...0.0..0.347.6454.2-9j12......0....1..gws-wiz.....0..0i71j0i131j0i131i67._YCXE4i1IG8

 

 

Perhaps you should included their forenames in the first place then?