Stand and deliver your liberty or your life ????

Well this says all you need to know about the useless government employees here, police who give ultimatums for police protection. Not that I actually thought the RTP were anything more than useless, they are the biggest joke of a police force I have ever seen.

Please don't whatever you do tell me the Junta has the support of the global democratic community.By their silence and inaction they are complicit in this FARCE(Failure At Rigging Current Election).They slither and grovel snivelling at the feet of their idols POWER and the almighty DOLLAR.Gone are the days of justice and freedom in the western world.With too few to stand against the tide of hate speech and ignorance we race to the bottom destined to revert to the sub human form of yesteryear! 

16 minutes ago, neeray said:

Unanimous opinions by the TVF brigade. Unfortunately, our opinions mean squat.

I would much prefer didley squat!

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Ja New offered police protection – if he gives up activism 

Hub of freedom ? No.  Hub of debate and discussion? Oh please, No.   Hub of expediency, autocracy and dim political minds? Yes.  For the BiB, this is not a new low.  Policing, investigations and security just are not their forte.  He is better off hiring somebody himself, or have a chat with the gun shop owners in Ol' Siam.

 

Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.  Thomas Jefferson.   Wonder if there is a Thai translation.   

 

 

How can the Police offer him protection if he refuses to put himself in potentially dangerous situations? How can their protection be seen/interpreted as being aligned with his causes? What guarantees would they have that he would not use the police protection to further his own aims.

 

Yes he has the right to freedom of speech and freedom of political will but to offer protection to someone without them being willing to make common sense decisions on their own safety would be madness. Why would a police force (in any country) put its officer at potential risk if the protected party does not agree to reduce his/her risk profile?

 

 

 

 

 

 

20 minutes ago, neeray said:

Unanimous opinions by the TVF brigade. Unfortunately, our opinions mean squat.

 

Unfortunately, I dont think the opinions of Thais mean much either.

1 hour ago, Puchaiyank said:

Sad, citizens are not allowed to disagree with their government...those that do will have to live in fear...this is not what the world expects from a democratic state...????

Thailand is not a democrstic state. From my perspective "democracy" is an imaginary ideal. Can anybody give us an example of a true democracy in action? Selfishness (greed and lust for money and power) is the prime motivation of politicians all over the world. 

Selflessness is the realm of those people who are apolitical.

We can see where this is going can't we.

Next time they will kill or cripple him, and the excuse will be " we offered to protect him but he wouldn't cooperate..."

Once the PM becomes Minister Of Justice with direct control over DSI and police he will be able to fix such problems.

6 minutes ago, MRToMRT said:

 

 

How can the Police offer him protection if he refuses to put himself in potentially dangerous situations? How can their protection be seen/interpreted as being aligned with his causes? What guarantees would they have that he would not use the police protection to further his own aims.

 

Yes he has the right to freedom of speech and freedom of political will but to offer protection to someone without them being willing to make common sense decisions on their own safety would be madness. Why would a police force (in any country) put its officer at potential risk if the protected party does not agree to reduce his/her risk profile?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your argument might carry some weight were it not for the little matter that those who have administered the beating are from amongst the ranks of that police force

1 hour ago, a977 said:

What right has the police to tell a citizen that he has to give up his beliefs to receive police protection. If the police did their job in the first place this would not have happened, to the police and the insipid person in charge time to forget about the bribes and brown envelopes and get on with what you were paid to do, ENFORCE THE LAW or is that too hard

I believe the police write their own rights. And I was aware of them getting protection money before but have never heard of them admitting to the "protection racket" before. This would be the first case that I have seen reported in the news.

38 minutes ago, neeray said:

Unanimous opinions by the TVF brigade. Unfortunately, our opinions mean squat.

Every uprising starts with just one voice. You can spread the word.

7 minutes ago, MRToMRT said:

 

 

How can the Police offer him protection if he refuses to put himself in potentially dangerous situations? How can their protection be seen/interpreted as being aligned with his causes? What guarantees would they have that he would not use the police protection to further his own aims.

 

Yes he has the right to freedom of speech and freedom of political will but to offer protection to someone without them being willing to make common sense decisions on their own safety would be madness. Why would a police force (in any country) put its officer at potential risk if the protected party does not agree to reduce his/her risk profile?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Firstly I think you might have meant to say "if he refuses to NOT put himself in potentially dangerous situations"?

He is putting himself in danger by speaking his mind,just as you are doing now.By speaking your mind you are putting yourself at risk.Why would anybody listen to somebody that does that?

"What guarantees would they have that he would not use the police protection to further his own aims".Are you for real?Trolling maybe?How the "" could he possibly achieve that?Can you please go back and read carefully just what you wrote and make the necessary amendments.

25 minutes ago, MRToMRT said:

 

 

How can the Police offer him protection if he refuses to put himself in potentially dangerous situations? How can their protection be seen/interpreted as being aligned with his causes? What guarantees would they have that he would not use the police protection to further his own aims.

 

Yes he has the right to freedom of speech and freedom of political will but to offer protection to someone without them being willing to make common sense decisions on their own safety would be madness. Why would a police force (in any country) put its officer at potential risk if the protected party does not agree to reduce his/her risk profile?

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think you understand the situation. The police protection means the police will stop beating on him. 

7 minutes ago, whaleboneman said:

Every uprising starts with just one voice. You can spread the word.

IMHO this is one reason why "they" don't want us here anymore. We have subversive and divisive ideas about things like personal freedoms. They much prefer the Chinese ideology of ruling with an iron hand.

24 minutes ago, MRToMRT said:

Yes he has the right to freedom of speech and freedom of political will but to offer protection to someone without them being willing to make common sense decisions on their own safety would be madness. Why would a police force (in any country) put its officer at potential risk if the protected party does not agree to reduce his/her risk profile?

 

Did you even read the article?The police said he does NOT have the right to "freedom of speech and freedom of political will".There has been a ban on freedom of speech and political will for the past five years.That's the big problem with all this.Please have a look around and take note of what is going on.It's really not that difficult.

21 minutes ago, whaleboneman said:

Every uprising starts with just one voice. You can spread the word.

I am farang.

My voice does not count.

Barbaric stoneage. Do they never improve?

 

Answer: NO !!!

 

 

who is doing the attacking or paying for it...mhhhhh

Maybe the police should tell the military not to beat up people that have alternative views. Give a earful to Prayut when he has time away from petty issues. 

"Democracy" 21st century style!

5 hours ago, webfact said:

where he was due to study for a master’s degree.

One one hand you have someone who cares about something and is educated, while on the other hand you have uneducated thugs, ah....finding the right balance is somewhat trying, perhaps he should seriously think about it, i.e. ask himself if it's all worth it, after all, if he is taken out, no one will miss a heart beat as much as he knows his course is for the good, there are darker forces lurking, not a way I would want to be living, i.e. looking over my shoulder while the cops don't give a toss and are probably in on keeping people such as him quiet for the bigger boys up the chain.

 

So in other words, if you keep protesting we won't protect you. Nice.

A great democracy, indeed. Shut up, or die? 

6 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Bribery !

Keep your mouth shut about your political thoughts, and we'll think about it.

As some wouldn't trust the RTP at the best of times, I think he is wasting his time, as he has already rocked the boat, and got massive publicity following the 2 vicious assaults, which will always go against him.

You just cant make it up here in thailand. THE POLICE SHOULD UPHOLD THE LAW WHATEVER THE REASON. Heads should roll with that mind set but of course it wont

OH so you have to do what the police, army, and PM want or they will not protect you. what has become of the land of smiles it is now the land of do as I say or we will make to cry

WOW WOW WOW so the police only protect the people who like and voted for the crooked PM

Stop being against the soldiers. Or die by the sword. 

 

  Police force in hands of army force. Makes perfect sense. 

"We'll offer protection", that's one of the most cliché mafioso line. Is it an offer he can't refuse ?