First time checked by Immagration in 15 years

[whiteman]

As above after completing my 15th year retirement visa I was informed that immagration will come to visit me later this year to make sure you live at the address given on you visa application.

 

One month later got an early morning telephone call saying they will be at out home at 1 oclock.

 

They turned up at 11-30 maybe hoping to catch me not being here.

 

Any how 30 mins later after the three immagration officers had taken signatures and photos they were driving out of our driveway when one of the main cops asked if I would like to go to lunch.

 

I told them I had already eaten so no free lunchers for them today.

 

My neighbour had a visit last year from a different younger group and they stayed 2 hours eating and drinking coffee and enjoying the lake views.

 

When they decided to leave they spotted some wine bottles and one of them asked my friend  could he have one, his wife said no. Saying wine is expensive theses days.

 

So it seems they the cops are not well paid and want to find any way to get as much as they can when they visit.

 

 

[marcusarelus]

So, how many years ago did this happen?

[darrendsd]

25 minutes ago, whiteman said:

So it seems they the cops are not well paid and want to find any way to get as much as they can when they visit.

After at least 15 years of being here this is something you should know already

[dbrenn]

I would have bought them lunch. It pays off in the long run to be hospitable.

[ratcatcher]

S

1 hour ago, whiteman said:

s above after completing my 15th year retirement visa I was informed that immagration will come to visit me later this year to make sure you live at the address given on you visa application.

So, after 15 years of extending your permission to stay, you receive a call that Immigration wants to drop by and say hello. You should have been pleased, as you obviously have nothing to hide. As for the lunch invitation, you should have said "Why not, I love Thai food". Presuming, of course, after 15 years, you can speak basic Thai? Better to be sociable with these guys than the other way. I'm sure you could have footed the bill for lunch,it would have gone down well

[luckyluke]

I do also since 15 years my extension;

I, at the Jomtien Immigration. 

 

The officers there have no interest in me. 

 

I must say, we only spend every time something like 5 minutes together. 

 

Maybe next year it will be different. 

 

 

 

[intherealworld]

2 hours ago, dbrenn said:

I would have bought them lunch. It pays off in the long run to be hospitable.

it would be an invite to more extortionate behaviour,

down the road.

you would be seen as an easy mark. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 9, 2019 by intherealworld

[Puchaiyank]

The Immigration poop thickens! ????

[jacko45k]

3 hours ago, whiteman said:

So it seems they the cops are not well paid and want to find any way to get as much as they can when they visit.

 

Sound like a bunch of scroungers, hide the drink!

[lamyai3]

1 hour ago, intherealworld said:

it would be an invite to more extortionate behaviour,

down the road.

you would be seen as an easy mark.

Agree - who'd want to go out to lunch with people who are basically out to extort? I'd want to keep my dealings with them as professional and minimal as possible. 

[wisperone]

3 hours ago, dbrenn said:

I would have bought them lunch. It pays off in the long run to be hospitable.

Sure...why not enable more Thai corruption.

 

Besides, if they offer you to go to lunch, shouldn't they be the ones to pay as part of the offer? That is what is done in quality countries. Oh wait, its quality tourists that Thailand wants, so the tourist should be the one on the hook for lunch.

[Caldera]

3 hours ago, dbrenn said:

I would have bought them lunch. It pays off in the long run to be hospitable.

Maybe. But there are people who find the thought of being hospitable to thugs revolting.

[IvorBiggun2]

3 hours ago, dbrenn said:

I would have bought them lunch. It pays off in the long run to be hospitable.

And how does that work?

[nickstav]

Where was this?

[lamyai3]

15 minutes ago, wisperone said:

Oh wait, its quality tourists that Thailand wants, so the tourist should be the one on the hook for lunch.

"Quality and responsibility" is the latest catchphrase baloney from TAT. 

[JimmyTheMook]

4 hours ago, dbrenn said:

I would have bought them lunch. It pays off in the long run to be hospitable.

 

The thought process will not work here.

 

Diff between someone who successfully became a Thai resident & the incessant 

whiners who have no clue how the country actually works.

[marcusarelus]

1 hour ago, nickstav said:

Where was this?

What year was it?

[elliss]

2 hours ago, Caldera said:

Maybe. But there are people who find the thought of being hospitable to thugs revolting.

 

 Being hospitable to thugs , really thats Ott . 

  I had an unexpected visit from immi officers , just as i was going out for lunch.        Welcomed them to join me , a jolly good time was had by all .

Sadly the wife was away, in the village,  again ..

  ps , now their visits , are not unexpected , we exchanged phone numbers .555

   

 

Edited July 9, 2019 by elliss

[wilailuk]

5 hours ago, dbrenn said:

I would have bought them lunch. It pays off in the long run to be hospitable.

Hospitable to mafia members?

 

Getoutahere!

 

 

 

[BritTim]

38 minutes ago, wilailuk said:

Hospitable to mafia members?

 

Getoutahere!

While those of us unused to the system find it loathsome, it can be interesting to at least understand the Thai patronage system. Increasingly, Thai officials feel that long stay foreigners should integrate themselves into Thai society, and begin to conform to Thai norms. You can resist, but this will probably become painful as Thai officialdom becomes increasingly intolerant of foreigners unwilling to conform to Thai society and customs.

[Andrew Dwyer]

Did my retirement extension last September ( Ayutthaya IO ), they booked a house visit for 2 weeks later.
They called various times to change the date and the time, plus when they got lost ( despite the address drawing done on extension !! ).

They appeared , took photos, looked at my passport and asked me to sign some paper ( apparently just a checklist acknowledging their visit).
They accepted water and left shortly, all very businesslike and I haven’t noticed anything missing [emoji51].

[fredob43]

I and several of my chums have had visits from the BIB. I normally only get them when I have been out of the country.

 

I arrived back this time on the 10th of last month, Wife did the notice of where I was living at IO. A week later got a call from BIB that they would be coming round to check if what she had put down was correct.

 

Asked to see passport took a snap of me wife and one of the BIB and they were on their way, refused coffee or any other drinks. Took around 15 min: Seems that they are checking up on all peeps to keep a check on if we a good peeps or not. By the way they had a pile of papers that they had to check on so I wasn't the only one.

Forgot to add I had to sign and print name on a paper.

They didn't come into the house they did it all on the patio.

 

 

Edited July 9, 2019 by fredob43

[richard_smith237]

17 minutes ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

Did my retirement extension last September ( Ayutthaya IO ), they booked a house visit for 2 weeks later.
They called various times to change the date and the time, plus when they got lost ( despite the address drawing done on extension !! ).

They appeared , took photos, looked at my passport and asked me to sign some paper ( apparently just a checklist acknowledging their visit).
They accepted water and left shortly, all very businesslike and I haven’t noticed anything missing .

 

 

Quote: "They accepted water and left shortly, all very businesslike and I haven’t noticed anything missing"

 

What about your rights?, civil rights, rights to privacy and any other rights some of the whiners love to spout on about?... surely those rights are missing !!!  

 

You can't just roll over like this, you have to make life difficult for yourself so you can have a problem and complain how they [Thai's] hate us, or want to treat us like criminals etc...  

 

(yes, that was sarcasm btw)

[wilailuk]

1 hour ago, BritTim said:

While those of us unused to the system find it loathsome, it can be interesting to at least understand the Thai patronage system. Increasingly, Thai officials feel that long stay foreigners should integrate themselves into Thai society, and begin to conform to Thai norms. You can resist, but this will probably become painful as Thai officialdom becomes increasingly intolerant of foreigners unwilling to conform to Thai society and customs.

Thanks for the "news" or advise, but I know the drill. Have a high polib, a kamnan and a dep. sec. in the Government in wife family, but I don´t mingle, there´s always a catch: I help you, you help me, and this can be both good and bad.. 

 

 

[Caldera]

2 hours ago, BritTim said:

While those of us unused to the system find it loathsome, it can be interesting to at least understand the Thai patronage system. Increasingly, Thai officials feel that long stay foreigners should integrate themselves into Thai society, and begin to conform to Thai norms. You can resist, but this will probably become painful as Thai officialdom becomes increasingly intolerant of foreigners unwilling to conform to Thai society and customs.

I agree that you should learn and know about the system. Then you can (and will have to) decide if it's for you. Definitely food for thought for all of us. As it's clearly not for me and as I tend to agree with your prediction, I don't really see myself as a likely candidate to become a bona fide resident one day anymore. Each to their own, of course.

[GinBoy2]

Was it really immigration who came to visit or the local cops?

 

The local cops have been doing these random visits for a while, they show up take a couple of pics, look at your passport etc.

 

But I've never heard of actual immigration showing up

[dbrenn]

7 hours ago, wilailuk said:

Hospitable to mafia members?

 

Getoutahere!

It's simply common sense to develop working relationships and show kindness to those around us, including (and especially) those upon whom we depend. I take my customers to lunch for the same reason, and I'll let you into a secret: they keep buying from me. And I'll tell you another thing - I never had a visa or extension of stay refused, and was eventually granted PR and then Thai citizenship. Taking people out to a modest lunch isn't corruption - it's hospitality.

 

It's not surprising that so many people here have problems with immigration, then come whining and complaining about hos 'they hate us' - everyone hates an inhospitable skinflint, and immigration officers are no different. Antagonising those upon whom you depend for the sake of a modest lunch is just daft, really, as it invites malice and future trouble that could wreck your life.

 

Edited July 9, 2019 by dbrenn

[Nowisee]

13 hours ago, dbrenn said:

I would have bought them lunch. It pays off in the long run to be hospitable.

Once you feed the stray dogs, they are hard to get rid of.

[ukrules]

13 hours ago, dbrenn said:

I would have bought them lunch. It pays off in the long run to be hospitable.

Yeah sure - they will be back every year from here on in without fail...

[murraynz]

10 hours ago, Caldera said:

Maybe. But there are people who find the thought of being hospitable to thugs revolting.

and thai immigration, also expect us to wear long trousers etc , to show respect..

why should we respect scum, bludgers, such as these people..

they get PAID  to do a job---as always THEY should be showing the customer respect..