Marijuana cannot cure disease, Prayut warns

[FarFlungFalang]

3 minutes ago, Don Chance said:

You don't want to smoke marijuana every day that is for sure.

You are so wrong because I do want to smoke marijuana everyday that's for sure,I speak from personal experience.Do you when you speak about the medical issues from using marijuana everyday speak from personal experience or from dubious documentation?

[Don Chance]

4 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

You are so wrong because I do want to smoke marijuana everyday that's for sure,I speak from personal experience.Do you when you speak about the medical issues from using marijuana everyday speak from personal experience or from dubious documentation?

Of course you do because you are addicted or perhaps it alleviates some medical condition. But nobody really wants to be an addict do they?

[FarFlungFalang]

6 minutes ago, Don Chance said:

Of course you do because you are addicted or perhaps it alleviates some medical condition. But nobody really wants to be an addict do they?

Well I haven't smoked for fifteen years,but you are probably right when you say I am addicted (I'm actually being serious here) and yes some of us really do want to be addicted.I know I'm also addicted to air as I find it difficult when I don't get enough!The beauty of freedom of choice means we are not all the same,how boring would that be?

Edited July 9, 2019 by FarFlungFalang
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[nickstav]

32 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

You are so wrong because I do want to smoke marijuana everyday that's for sure,I speak from personal experience.Do you when you speak about the medical issues from using marijuana everyday speak from personal experience or from dubious documentation?

I smoked every day for 40 years, don't anymore. It allowed me to quit drinking for many years. When I stopped smoking I started drinking again. So, which is worse? 

[scotbeve]

3 hours ago, nickstav said:

I've never heard anyone claim that pot can "cure" diseases, except maybe from some Rastas, but its ability to alleviate symptoms is pretty much well-established.

 

Have you lived on a remote island for the past 50 years? Get your Google finger to work?

[scotbeve]

3 hours ago, nickstav said:

I've never heard anyone claim that pot can "cure" diseases, except maybe from some Rastas, but its ability to alleviate symptoms is pretty much well-established.

 

Google Rick Simpson oil.

[nickstav]

23 minutes ago, scotbeve said:

Google Rick Simpson oil.

I followed your advice. Very interesting, but not what I would call conclusive. Certainly more research needs to be done. Looks promising for treatment even if not a cure (although Simpson claims it as a cure). Multiple studies showed benefits, but noted one study (American Cancer Society 2004) that said it actually increased the rate of growth of cancer cells in certain types of cancers. Thanks for the tip.

[nickstav]

3 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Glaucoma! 

Not a cure, but helps. The medicinal affect for glaucoma only lasts 3 or 4 hours per dose....Uh, sign me up 555.

[Date Masamune]

Opium derived drugs never cured anything, it just helps

Opiates help with pain. I’m not a doctor but does any drug cure disease? For example anti-virals and Antibiotics, beats the bugs back so your immune system can do it’s job. Insulin, Blood pressure meds, etc, keep you alive but don’t cure the underlying condition.

Sounds like a dinosaur comment from the PM

[Isaanbiker]

God, I didn't know that he's such a great and knowledgeable doctor.

 

   How much does he really know? We all know that it's nil to zero. 

[Small Joke]

It works wonders for grumpy old soldiers, according to a friend of a friend. 

Might the esteemed PM ever be tempted...

[bendejo]

In my experience, it is the best cure for weltschmerz

 

 

[doggie1955]

Dr. Prayut... you could be wrong?

https://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifestyle/20-medical-benefits-marijuana-you-probably-never-knew.html

https://www.thegrowthop.com/cannabis-health/cannabis-medical/can-cannabis-really-cure-cancer-heres-the-science

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/medical-marijuana-2018011513085

 

[doggie1955]

7 hours ago, Don Chance said:

The whole 'medical cannabis" thing was always about decriminalizing.

The right demonized the drugs so the left had to combat the reefer madness with something. So they did studies proving that cannabis was efficacious for some medical conditions. Then they could force the government to allow it for medical purposes. Most government have a mandate to provide medicines to their people.

That's how it went in Canada, they sued the government in court for not allowing cannabis to be sold and criminalizing sick people. The courts made the government change.

Thailand is now doing the same things. Someone in the higher up wants weed to be legalized. It sure isn't the military regime.

The down side of all the medical weed is that people actually think it is a cure all medicine. Anxiety and insomnia are symptoms of addiction. So addicts can claim they need cannabis for those conditions. Anyone who really had those conditions would not want to take cannabis, it would just make it worse.

It is good that addicts are not being criminalized but legalizing should not be legitimizing. If you smoke every day you are an addict and you will experience the many side effects of the drugs, whether or not you realize it or not.

Memory lose, confusion, paranoia, de-socialization. It is not hard to observe cannabis users experiencing these symptoms. You don't want to smoke marijuana every day that is for sure. It is not an answer to life.

 

Well just to let you know, the military regime has already called me in to talk about growing it themselves.

And boy do they have the money for it, I could not believe how much baht they are willing to put into this.

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[doggie1955]

3 hours ago, doggie1955 said:

Dr. Prayut... you could be wrong?

https://www.lifehack.org/articles/lifestyle/20-medical-benefits-marijuana-you-probably-never-knew.html

https://www.thegrowthop.com/cannabis-health/cannabis-medical/can-cannabis-really-cure-cancer-heres-the-science

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/medical-marijuana-2018011513085

 

And I forgot this one... https://hightimes.com/news/scientists-finds-cbd-may-have-potential-antibiotic/

[30la]

A product of nature can only be good!

[malibukid]

stupid man, i studied medicine did you?

Edited July 10, 2019 by malibukid

[Shiver]

Next time I have a condition I need assistance with (so far, broken bones, 'impossible' (lol) liver cirrhosis (now 100% good), a foot operation and other issues, I'm going to a Politician for advice, because the Doc's sure have no idea what they're talking about except in their modular specialization field.  I guess politics and armed forces are not holistic either.

 

[Zack61]

12 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Not to mention the industrial uses of industrial hemp and the enormous number products the would also benefit society.People seem to ignore the whole subject of industrial hemp,it is the strongest natural fibre on the planet. 

And doesn’t require the enormous amounts of herbicide and water associated with cotton farming. This is the main reason hemp is banned because the chemical companies lobbied against it a hundred years ago by demonising because it threatened their bottom line. 

[Lupatria]

He's the Jack of all trades - master of none.

[Blue bruce]

I didn't know the general was a doctor and a scientist also. He wears so many different hats!!!!!

[bluesofa]

16 minutes ago, Blue bruce said:

I didn't know the general was a doctor and a scientist also. He wears so many different hats!!!!!

So true:

[TurkAussie]

13 hours ago, nickstav said:

I've never heard anyone claim that pot can "cure" diseases, except maybe from some Rastas, but its ability to alleviate symptoms is pretty much well-established.

 

Well then you have not actually studied the plant much , the human body has a system which controls hormones, blood cell counts and much more and it is called the Endocanibinoid system no substance fits this system like the cannibinoids, canibidiol and THC which only come from the cannabis plant alone! Furthermore a man named Rick Simpson, cured his cancer using concentrated cannabis extract and gave his recipe to millions of supposedly terminal Cancer patients and as a result over 20 million people have cured cancer using Cannabis. You can watch a documentary on YouTube all about Rick Simpson called “Run from the cure” or you can visit www. phoenixtears.com for more info

[BimBoon]

Maybe not the type of CB they are producing. Shamefuly he thinks Asbestos and those chemicals they conveniently called medicine are all perfectly safe and OK. 

[hsovereign]

13 hours ago, nickstav said:

I've never heard anyone claim that pot can "cure" diseases, except maybe from some Rastas, but its ability to alleviate symptoms is pretty much well-established.

 

There's quite a lot of Doctors around the world who are actively prescribing types of cannabis oil which are proving very effective at reducing tumors some even completely. I think it's something definitely worth investigating and health departments to invest in. 

[wombat]

13 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Not to mention the industrial uses of industrial hemp and the enormous number products the would also benefit society.People seem to ignore the whole subject of industrial hemp,it is the strongest natural fibre on the planet. 

 

[hotchilli]

14 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Prayut said that issuing legislation to control the use of marijuana will take time and that the authorities are currently unable to control the use of potions extracted from leaves of the plant

Which makes it illegal use of marijuana does it not?

[crazykopite]

Not only a PM , a General , but also a well qualified professor of medicine so I take it all medication that has some form of marijuana in it is not fit for purpose .

[vmack153]

Either a steady flow of fat brown envelopes from the pharmaceutical mafia or proof that Thailand is 50 years behind the rest of the world 

[FarFlungFalang]

9 hours ago, nickstav said:

Not a cure, but helps. The medicinal affect for glaucoma only lasts 3 or 4 hours per dose....Uh, sign me up 555.

I could unconvinsingly stretch the argument by say it is a temporary cure!