londonthai Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 21 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: I guess yes he is a convicted smuggler into Australia, yes he is a deportee from Australia Has he committed any crimes in Thailand for which he has been tried and convicted? Is he in breach of the Thai constitution by standing for election? When is a person rehabilitated? Just asking. being devils advocate yes, nobody convicted of drug offences can run for public office. Constitution was broken by the party he was running for, as well as by the PM, who knew well about his conviction but decided to ignore it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 16 minutes ago, londonthai said: yes, nobody convicted of drug offences can run for public office. Constitution was broken by the party he was running for, as well as by the PM, who knew well about his conviction but decided to ignore it. You can judge for yourself whether he fit the eligibility to be a ministers. As for me he failed under item 5 and 7. Thailand 2017 constitution. Section 160 • Eligibility for head of government A Minister must: 1. be of Thai nationality by birth; 2. be not less than thirty-five years of age; • Minimum age of head of government 3. have graduated with not lower than a Bachelor’s degree or its equivalent; 4. be of evident integrity; 5. not have behaviour which is a serious violation of or failure to comply with ethical standards; 6. not be under any of the prohibitions under section 98; 7. not be a person sentenced by a judgment to imprisonment, irrespective of the finality of the case or a suspension of the punishment, except for an offence committed through negligence, a petty offence or a defamation offence; 8. not be a person whose office has been vacated on the grounds of committing any prohibited act under section 186 or section 187, for a period of less than two years up to the date of appointment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 more on the subject from australia https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/where-heroin-trafficking-is-no-bar-to-public-office-20190910-p52pxn.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 Unbelieveable story. A convicted heroin smuggler becomes a minister. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 he also bought his PhD degree from a bogus university https://www.facebook.com/CSILA90210 for those 2 offences he should not stand to public office posts. Those, who vetted him (political party he stood for during election and the PM, who invited him to his government) should be held responsible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 23 hours ago, Eric Loh said: You can judge for yourself whether he fit the eligibility to be a ministers. As for me he failed under item 5 and 7. Their "defense" would be that 5.) Royal Pardon 7.) Didn't happen in Thailand #3 and #4 seems like fails too? Perhaps the biggest issue here is that the public loses faith in all the important institutions here, not just the government du jour, when this sort of behavior is condoned. I understand why he can't resign now, and the Generals can't let him, as they've already corrupted themselves too much on this issue, and backing out now would be to admit that level of moral corruption. Short of a rare blood disorder, nasty bump on the head in a car accident, or defenestration, not seeing a way out for them on this one, so must rally the troops and stand firm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post londonthai Posted September 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2019 according to The Nation attack on this drug dealer is part of anti-monarchist conspiracy between Andrew MacGregor Marshall (independent scotish journalist), Jonathan Mark Head (BBC thailand) and Michael Ruffles (The Sydney Morning Herald journalist). That's how political establishment sees attack on their vital financial interests. Many top guns will be implicated if he started to talk about his past drug connections . He already grassed some of them during interrogation in australia. That's why the PM defends him https://www.nationweekend.com/content/detail/949?fbclid=IwAR22MeSCn9mAfHuOXFoeoVZ9RQsriITRrywHC5CqGU2PFoMggXtRs0LHfYE 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post starky Posted September 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 7/11/2019 at 9:33 PM, BestB said: 8 months jail is little more than not reporting a drug deal. IN Oz you can walk free if you get done with a car load of drugs if its your first offence. I am guessing he was a conspirator to a major drug importation or some ring but refused to testify against his buddies. He got caught red handed not with the drugs but with other gang members in a room that was under surveillance by Aussie cops and he did his full sentence of 4 years. F... Knows where they got 8 months from. This whole article is BS. He wasn't thammant at that time he was Manat Bonphlom and he did the full 4 at Parklea prison. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 7/12/2019 at 9:25 AM, Srikcir said: I tried to find more about his conviction. Curious he doesn't show in any searches in Thailand nor (with & without VPN) in Australia, especially with regard to Australia drug conviction and prison to which he admits did occur. Did he use a different name there? The only place I find his name "Thammanas Phromphao" is a search in Thai Visa Google but only in connection with his recent appointment as deputy agriculture minister. Yet, he was described as "a key figure in the coalition leading Phalang Pracharat Party." Try Manat Bonphlom the name he was using and arrested under. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post starky Posted September 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 7/12/2019 at 9:20 AM, nickstav said: "...not convicted technically", but served 8 months in jail? How did that happen??? He was convicted and did 4 years. Not 8 months. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starky Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 7/13/2019 at 2:14 PM, RJRS1301 said: Deported after serving 12 months or more usually, he served 8 months He did 4 years out Parklea where do you get you rubbish information from? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 7/11/2019 at 9:31 PM, Chrisdoc said: Failing to report a drug deal seems a strange offence. Sent from my Lenovo TB-8304F1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Don't worry newsflash, misunderstanding alert he thought his friend said can you import this "heron" for me and like the Thai Ital guy being a nature lover he agreed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post starky Posted September 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2019 On 9/9/2019 at 3:46 PM, londonthai said: turns out he did smuggle 3.2kg of heroin and spend 4 years in jail https://www.theage.com.au/national/from-sinister-to-minister-politician-s-drug-trafficking-jail-time-revealed-20190906-p52opz.html https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-newspaper-clipping-that-confirmed-a-criminal-politician-was-bluffing-20190906-p52oue.html will he be promoted now from the deputy to ministerial post? Was going to correct your earlier post but you unlike many others managed to find the truth amd not the BS the Thai govt. Is perpetrating. He did the full term of his sentence out at Parklea. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 However, Thammanas defended himself by saying he served an eight-month sentence in Australia for failing to report a drug-trafficking deal. Priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) On 9/9/2019 at 8:56 PM, londonthai said: the PM exactly knew everything but chose to ignore it. Because crime wasn't done in thailand and because he wasn't sentenced here he had the right to be minister The PM may well have known everything as the guy was allegedly in the army at the time. Edited September 14, 2019 by FarFlungFalang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 25 minutes ago, Chazar said: Don't worry newsflash, misunderstanding alert he thought his friend said can you import this "heron" for me and like the Thai Ital guy being a nature lover he agreed. That one flew right over my head. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) From FB this morning The Fake news office is in full swing i thought it was to stop fake news not generate it A weekend edition of a "National" newspaper in Thailand claims that accusations against Thammanat Prompao were invented as part of a conspiracy between me,(AMM) Jonathan Mark Head, and Michael Ruffles (one of The Sydney Morning Herald journalists who actually broke the story by uncovering Australian court documents). Edited September 14, 2019 by poohy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 "allegations" Christ they have some nerve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerojero Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 How stupid or arrogant can the PM be, trying to exonerate or justify a criminal as Minister. Most people see it for what it is and Prayut has lost serious credibility over this one. He's done stupid things, but this is a biggie! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 3 hours ago, starky said: He got caught red handed not with the drugs but with other gang members in a room that was under surveillance by Aussie cops and he did his full sentence of 4 years. F... Knows where they got 8 months from. This whole article is BS. He wasn't thammant at that time he was Manat Bonphlom and he did the full 4 at Parklea prison. He was possibly on remand for 8 months awaiting trial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Additional interesting information: https://www.thephuketnews.com/government-targets-over-6-000-top-villains-56522.php#bdoGzfRZOIDR7cwQ.97 And in the other journal an article about a Bitcoin suspect who says he was duped 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) You're gonna be nicked, just in case.... In fact, it's for your own safety, coz even if you haven't done anything, you'll still be banged up. ???? "They might have done nothing wrong, but their aides might have..." Quite simply, they're in the wrong gang, & need to be 'dealt with'. Edit: Just seen that the article is 3 years old. Edited September 15, 2019 by faraday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, candide said: Additional interesting information: https://www.thephuketnews.com/government-targets-over-6-000-top-villains-56522.php#bdoGzfRZOIDR7cwQ.97 And in the other journal an article about a Bitcoin suspect who says he was duped Mmm interesting times ahead, could this be seen as a cynical move to remove opposition, under other guises? Oh so old news of no value to current situation Edited September 15, 2019 by RJRS1301 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 This tactic works here amongst the idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 hours ago, candide said: Additional interesting information: https://www.thephuketnews.com/government-targets-over-6-000-top-villains-56522.php#bdoGzfRZOIDR7cwQ.97 And in the other journal an article about a Bitcoin suspect who says he was duped The irony was that Thammanat Prompow was in the 2016 Prawit black list of 'influential figures'. Yet in just 3 years, he is in Prawit's government as an influential minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 On 7/11/2019 at 9:08 PM, BestB said: Wait a second, so he is a convicted criminal in another country but an honorable member of parliament in Thailand? Mind you his conviction is not political but drugs related and yet he is an honorable member of parliament? And he wants to take legal action? That's the way the guilty defend themselves in Thailand - legal action scares his critics into silence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 "Draft Press Statement from Government House" https://prachatai.com/english/node/8215 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 now he publicly admitted serving 4 years in australian jail https://www.smh.com.au/national/embattled-thai-minister-admits-to-court-sentence-in-australia-20190916-p52rxe.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 very poor condition, might be blood poisoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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