Eric Loh Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Yinn said: Sorry not clear. Thammanat go jail for heroin. Seriphisut complain about him yesterday. I put the link to show that he not “the angel” also. They are are both in the parliament. Tanatorn never do anything bad before. Only MAYBE do a document a little bit late. Not the criminal guy at all. He the good, honest, polite guy. MAYBE use his car to deive anti junta friend home. But Tanatorn get cancel, but this two guy, and many other guy like mafia, no problem to stay in parliament. I just try to say it is not fairness. Hope you understand now how I mean it. Reading the link you provided, Seriphisut seem a uncompromising cop that went after untouchable mafia leaders, gambling dens and tried to reform the police. Seem a good stand-out cop; not how you portrayed him. Comparing with that scum Thammanas is like oil and water. Don't you think so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newatthis Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 15 hours ago, snoop1130 said: “I also know the secrets of many political parties I have worked with,” he said without elaborating. Just what the country needs. A potential blackmailer in Parliament. Maybe that's why Prayut put him there for protection against any opposition attacks?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeN Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, TKDfella said: If he has been convicted and served jail for a drugs related charge shouldn't that automatically disqualify him? Anyone here know the rules related to this? Only a conviction in Thailand counts apparently according the story in “the other paper”. Of course, in most other countries he would have been vetted out during the pre-selection process. ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Srikcir said: I tried to find more about his conviction. Curious he doesn't show in any searches in Thailand nor (with & without VPN) in Australia, especially with regard to Australia drug conviction and prison to which he admits did occur. Did he use a different name there? The only place I find his name "Thammanas Phromphao" is a search in Thai Visa Google but only in connection with his recent appointment as deputy agriculture minister. Yet, he was described as "a key figure in the coalition leading Phalang Pracharat Party." A couple of days ago there was mention in a TV thread that he has changed his name 4 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 35 minutes ago, Eric Loh said: Reading the link you provided, Seriphisut seem a uncompromising cop that went after untouchable mafia leaders, gambling dens and tried to reform the police. Seem a good stand-out cop; not how you portrayed him. Comparing with that scum Thammanas is like oil and water. Don't you think so? Yes. Heroin is worse. I not compare them that way. But he have problem before. How you think he be successful cop? Have legal problem before. Have more thing than wiki say. Tanatorn have no problem before. I think best guy for Thailand. My opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesofa Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 36 minutes ago, Yinn said: Sorry not clear. Thammanat go jail for heroin. Seriphisut complain about him yesterday. I put the link to show that he not “the angel” also. They are are both in the parliament. Tanatorn never do anything bad before. Only MAYBE do a document a little bit late. Not the criminal guy at all. He the good, honest, polite guy. MAYBE use his car to deive anti junta friend home. But Tanatorn get cancel, but this two guy, and many other guy like mafia, no problem to stay in parliament. I just try to say it is not fairness. Hope you understand now how I mean it. Thanks for explaining, I understand now. It looks like Thammanat and Seriphisut as as bad as each other. Same as the rest of the government. I saw a youtube video interview with Thanatorn in English on a Chiang Mai radio/TV station. Not only is his English very good, he also comes across as very straight and speaks very naturally about the problems facing Thailand. I wish him luck, because he is going to need it, with the way the military government (who say they aren't) don't like criticism. They will make up anything to stop it, including persecution of anyone reading 1984, by charging them with "eating a sandwich with political intent" in June 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 16 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Thammanas added that he considered himself suitable for the job because “I am a child of farmers and I grow up with soil”. So go plant rice !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Jones Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Let's get something real clear here: "failing to report a drug deal" DOES NOT put you in jail in Australia. that would attract a fine and a suspended sentence AT WORST. To finish up in jail it takes a dirty track record with prior charges. The word "allegation DOES NOT apply here. He was found guilty of a crime, charged and served a sentence - - - ALL FACTS. It will only be a matter of research and time to see what Australian public records produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 It seems a lot of the current "info" about this guy's past is coming from his own accounts... and not much independent detail/reporting... Which tends to make his accounts pretty questionable, and probably a sugar coated version of whatever actually occurred. https://thaipoliticalprisoners.wordpress.com/tag/thammanat-prompao/ And... Quote BANGKOK — A deputy PM confirmed on Wednesday that a Phalang Pracharat MP nominated to the incoming cabinet is eligible despite allegations he has been convicted of a crime in another country. Wissanu Krea-Ngam said Capt. Thammanat Prompao’s eligibility for a seat in the cabinet is not in question because he is not being prosecuted by the Thai judiciary. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2019/07/10/a-convicted-mp-can-become-minister-deputy-pm/ So, it's OK to be a convicted criminal abroad, just so long as you don't get convicted in Thailand??? PS - Interesting that the Khaosod article above has the following addendum at the bottom of the article: Quote Parts of this article were removed per Khaosod’s advice to avoid possible legal action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 58 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Interesting that the Khaosod article above has the following addendum at the bottom of the article: The Australian Federal Police is responsible for the collection, collation and recording of court outcomes relating to criminal and traffic prosecutions. It apparently provides information freely to foreign law enforcement agencies, prosecution and judicial services. https://www.afp.gov.au/what-we-do/services/criminal-records But for individuals there is a paid search option by an individual but restricted only to the individual making the request, ie., by Thammanas. Maybe a House MP or House committee can make the request for more information as they only have Thammanas' word as to the details of his arrest and conviction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Srikcir said: The Australian Federal Police is responsible for the collection, collation and recording of court outcomes relating to criminal and traffic prosecutions. It apparently provides information freely to foreign law enforcement agencies, prosecution and judicial services. https://www.afp.gov.au/what-we-do/services/criminal-records But for individuals there is a paid search option by an individual but restricted only to the individual making the request, ie., by Thammanas. Maybe a House MP or House committee can make the request for more information as they only have Thammanas' word as to the details of his arrest and conviction. The Political Prisoners blog post I linked to above includes the following mention: Quote Apparently responding to the AFP story from 1998 that’s being widely circulated So apparently there's some contemporaneous news media reports from back at that time...even if they may not be readily accessible online... There were newspapers and news reports prior to everything moving to the Internet, after all! And archives and records kept of those reports in various ways/places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: AFP story from 1998 I believe his arrest was in 1993 so very old news even for hard copy retention. The quickest solution would be for the Australian Embassy in Thailand to make a request for public interest purpose and to set the record straight. Conversely, the Thai Embassy in Australia could make the request ????. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 17 hours ago, Chrisdoc said: Failing to report a drug deal seems a strange offence. Sent from my Lenovo TB-8304F1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Not when you were perpetrator but couldn't be proven in an Aussie court - which of course wouldn't have mattered in Thailand in his case - not guilty, next case please- just make sure it's part of the riff-raff as I need to bang someone up today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 The title of this news post makes no sense. How can it be described as an allegation if he was in fact, found guilty and did time? Surely it's a Fact! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, hotchilli said: So go plant rice !! For sale to a fictitious rice buying scheme...???????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 hours ago, newatthis said: Just what the country needs. A potential blackmailer in Parliament. Maybe that's why Prayut put him there for protection against any opposition attacks?? But fairly normal procedure so as as you use initials for identification and names or full name-- don't want any defamation cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Christmas13 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 3 hours ago, bluesofa said: Thanks for explaining, I understand now. It looks like Thammanat and Seriphisut as as bad as each other. Same as the rest of the government. I saw a youtube video interview with Thanatorn in English on a Chiang Mai radio/TV station. Not only is his English very good, he also comes across as very straight and speaks very naturally about the problems facing Thailand. I wish him luck, because he is going to need it, with the way the military government (who say they aren't) don't like criticism. They will make up anything to stop it, including persecution of anyone reading 1984, by charging them with "eating a sandwich with political intent" in June 2014. I do talk to Thanathorn often he is on my friends list and yes his English is very good and I am sure he does not use Google translate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 On 7/11/2019 at 9:34 PM, rkidlad said: He’s also claimed that he wasn’t deported after he was released from prison. He was deported later, and that was because the mayor of Sydney didn’t like Asians who formed groups and he didn’t have perminent residence. Do countries (especially the types of countries who don’t like groups of Asians) usually allow non-residents to stay in the country after being released from prison? I think he means gangs, but group sounds nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 On 7/11/2019 at 7:33 PM, snoop1130 said: drugs related allegation against him was part of a political move aimed at bringing down the government, adding that he was getting ready to take legal action against the accusers. early indication of the wrong guy for the job; doesnt like something and threatens to sue; childish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I imagine this guy is a scary bloke in the flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 'And he wants to take legal action?' The time honoured Thai way of silencing criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expatfromwyoming Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 This is a man who openly admitted to being mafia connected to the press until his boss shut him down. And then further threatened “I also know the secrets of many political parties I have worked with,”. Well done PM your choice was obviously made based on like mindedness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 On 7/11/2019 at 1:33 PM, snoop1130 said: He also maintained that he has never coveted a seat in the Cabinet, “but I have to work because the prime minister has given me tasks to complete”. Such a hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 On 7/12/2019 at 6:20 AM, hotchilli said: So go plant rice !! Avoid rubber though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 On 7/12/2019 at 12:31 AM, Chrisdoc said: Failing to report a drug deal seems a strange offence. Sent from my Lenovo TB-8304F1 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Very strange, unless he was convicted for some connection to it (conspiracy), but not reporting that in itself is not a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Redline said: I think he means gangs, but group sounds nice Deported after serving 12 months or more usually, he served 8 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 he was in a flat, with 4 other people, where heroine deal for au$1.2bln was taking place. was arrested and held for 8 months, sentenced to 6 month community service. Deported sometimes after that, after 4 years staying and working in australia. pardoned by the king in 2017 of any criminal record, so he can run for a political office. every version of his story is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said: They came for the gold in the early 1800's and had to be restricted by immigration laws. There were also the most prolific shearers early on shearing the bulk of the sheep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 6 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said: They came for the gold in the early 1800's and had to be restricted by immigration laws. As were all non Europeans under what became known as the "White Australia Policy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 turns out he did smuggle 3.2kg of heroin and spend 4 years in jail https://www.theage.com.au/national/from-sinister-to-minister-politician-s-drug-trafficking-jail-time-revealed-20190906-p52opz.html https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-newspaper-clipping-that-confirmed-a-criminal-politician-was-bluffing-20190906-p52oue.html will he be promoted now from the deputy to ministerial post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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