Scott Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Troll, off-topic posts and replies removed. Please stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 7 hours ago, EVENKEEL said: Trump is president at this time. What does Obama have to do with anything. I know, the thought of a good economy is troubling to Libs. The thought that Obama took office with the economy in freefall and left a good economy for Trump is troubling to the Cons. What little Trump has done for the economy was done with a massive increase in deficit spending. Even with that he hasn't done as well as either of his two Democrat predecessors. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 7 hours ago, usviphotography said: Except Trump isn't opposed to immigration at all, so you have created a straw man. Trump is opposed to idiotic immigration policies like accepting mass numbers of Somali "refugees" or outright illegal immigration such as we are seeing at the Southern Border. Take a poll of how many American's support AOC and Omar's Open Border positions. Your second sentence contradicts your first. The Somalia refugees accepted into the US were done so legally. The immigrants fleeing Central America have a legal right to ask for asylum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 hours ago, mogandave said: You mean “facts” you present like people you disagree with don’t care about the future of the country and dry-humping the flag? I argued that people who don't bother to inform themselves about what is happening in their country don't care about it. Similar to the way that parents who don't bother to watch their children demonstrate that they don't care about them. I agree that I should have simply described Trump's public displays of disrespect for the flag as groping. I doubt he has the flexibility to dry hump. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 hours ago, mogandave said: Yes, everyone knows the the debt and deficit all started with Trump, the the stock-market and employment numbers are a result of President Obama’s policies finally kicking in. Massive peace time deficit spending started with Reagan, and the stock market and employment numbers improved drastically while Obama was in office. Your post is an example of Trump supporters ignoring facts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, mikebike said: Has history taught you nothing about opposing "power that is entrenched so deep"? Or are you just OK with the richest most powerful nation the world has ever seen falling way behind other developed nations in terms of how it looks after its people and the opportunities it affords them? I see it as pretty much game over. Between the hoarding of wealth, the legal system, the shifting face of jobs and labor, the police and government, surveillance machine, social credit system... I'm focused on trying to find somewhere to ride out the end of my days as relatively free as possible. Retinal scans, fingerprinting, implants, chips, GPS. Digital currency... You're already caged. Checkmate. Edited July 17, 2019 by Number 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bendejo Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 20 hours ago, heybruce said: Many pro-Trump posters admit that they like Trump for his entertainment value and the fact that he annoys people who think about the future of the US. They not only rarely cite facts, they rarely respond to facts presented to them. but what about.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The founding fathers recorded their thoughts in the Constitution. Rather than second guess their thoughts, read the Constitution. They were slave owning racists you might want to be more careful in the future. America was founded by white supremacists based upon ideology which is and was pure evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: They were slave owning racists you might want to be more careful in the future. America was founded by white supremacists based upon ideology which is and was pure evil. They were men of their time. Trump is a throwback. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, Cryingdick said: They were slave owning racists you might want to be more careful in the future. America was founded by white supremacists based upon ideology which is and was pure evil. What's more they acknowledged that slavery was wrong but managed to be hypocrites about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnnybangkok Posted July 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2019 18 hours ago, Uptooyoo said: Yeah...the country that invents almost everything and landed a man on the moon half a century ago. Nowhere close to inventing 'almost everything' (the Scottish alone have 10 times more inventions to their name) and you put a man on the moon thanks entirely to Nazi rocket scientists. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 18 hours ago, Uptooyoo said: Yeah...the country that invents almost everything and landed a man on the moon half a century ago. I thought the Germans invented 'nearly everything'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thakkar Posted July 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2019 18 hours ago, Uptooyoo said: Yeah...the country that invents almost everything and landed a man on the moon half a century ago. More often than not, thanks to immigrants, including the guys who worked on getting Appolo off the ground. The guy who invented USB was an Indian Immigrant, the guy who popularized USB was the son of an iranian immigrant (Steve Jobs—heard of him?). The guys who invented google -sons of Russian immigrants. Youtube - one co-founder a German/Indian immigrant, another, a Taiwanese immigrant. Paypal cofounder Musk, a South African immigrant. Not to mention the enormous contribution of immigrants to medicine, science, the arts, architecture, literature, the social sciences, and politics. America’s greatness and its immigrant story are inextricably linked. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, Thakkar said: More often than not, thanks to immigrants, including the guys who worked on getting Appolo off the ground. The guy who invented USB was an Indian Immigrant, the guy who popularized USB was the son of an iranian immigrant (Steve Jobs—heard of him?). The guys who invented google -sons of Russian immigrants. Youtube - one co-founder a German/Indian immigrant, another, a Taiwanese immigrant. Paypal cofounder Musk, a South African immigrant. Not to mention the enormous contribution of immigrants to medicine, science, the arts, architecture, literature, the social sciences, and politics. America’s greatness and its immigrant story are inextricably linked. You don't find any of these people inciting violence and raising the Mexican flag on American soil in public. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post puck2 Posted July 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2019 Every day, I repeat every day, when Trump opens his mouth he shows his real character and intelligence. Just as here in this case. It is far below of the character of a pig or snake. It's hard to find an animal which has the same low and ugly standard. I can trust our dog by 100%. She barks at unknown people, but not at friends. And wags her tail when good people come to us. Trump likes/loves the criminals like those topleaders in Saudi Arabia and N.-Korea; i.e. . He berates honest politicians - here this 4 ladies - and people all over the word; i.e. May, Merkel, plus everybody in his own country who disagree with him, Obama, Bloomberg, Eliz.Warren, Ted Cruz, Clinto, Goldberg, Baldween, … the list goes on endlessly. Once a friend of our dog, every time a friend for our dog. But Trump? Today he calls them (by his poor language) „tremendous, fantastic“ etc. The next day he insults them in an very ordinary way. Examples: Trump has been using nicknames and insults to taunt his political enemies since the early days of his 2016 presidential run. He tagged former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) as “low energy” and mocked Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) as “Little Marco.” The president still uses the moniker of “Crooked Hillary” to attack his former Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton. Here's a look at some of Trump's most memorable insults from 2018. (from) https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/421948-18-nicknames-trump-invented-in-2018 He extremely abuses his president-job with the grantee of going free for insults. Instead of doing his job he lollygags his time in office for insulting people. Shame on all people and especially on all Reps who support such a blockhead with a disgusting character. This „animal“, full of hate and lies, belongs into prison and not on the chair of a POTUS 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jany123 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Cryingdick said: They were slave owning racists you might want to be more careful in the future. America was founded by white supremacists based upon ideology which is and was pure evil. Perhaps therein lies the rationale to completely overhaul that biased and outdated “constitution.” 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jany123 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Cryingdick said: You don't find any of these people inciting violence and raising the Mexican flag on American soil in public. There ya go... that’s what I like. A new policy. Open the gates, pull down the chicken house fencing.... y'all are allowed in... but... if you incite violence or raise a Mexican flag in public, we’ll have to deport you. Ok? Raise your hand if you agree... excellent, sign the waiver and come on in, then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 You have to forgive many Americans. We are pumped with exceptionalism propaganda from an early age. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile appNot in the last 30 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted July 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) Now that they're chanting "Send her back" at "trump" rallies, I wonder if the targeted four minority women are getting the proper security protection. That's not a joke. The occupant of the white is playing a very dangerous game now. Win at any cost. BTW, the congresswoman that they're chanting that hate speech at is U.S. citizen. Can anyone imagine any president in American history encouraging such a disgusting chant? Note he didn't interrupt the rally to correct the rabid chanters. He soaked it in. I saw notorious white supremacist George Wallace in person at a presidential campaign rally. No, not to support him but rather to make a video about it. I'm sorry but the current occupant of the white house is much much worse. We've come a long way baby. BACKWARDS. Edited July 18, 2019 by Jingthing 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wreckingcountry Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 USA and Thailand have so much in common, however let’s just say both are incapable of reform ! Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Oh well it’s out in the open now as if we dident know if I had said what he said on any job here in the USA I would have been instantly fired and exposed to civil law suits the republicans better hope they win in 2020 after their blatant display of spineless fear of Donald just pathetic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nigel Garvie Posted July 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Socialism? You mean like nationalized health care (more or less) like every other "advanced" western nation and so many others? As far as the electoral college there do seem to be some tactics but it's hard to imagine how it can be changed by constitutional amendment. Can you win this battle, there are so many pathetically undereducated Americans who have no idea what Socialism (Let alone Communism) really means. Needless to say the US health system is one of the worlds biggest jokes. Over twice as expensive as any other OECD country, and an average life expectancy the same as Cuba. Maybe some of the countries that these ladies came from could send their specialists to help the US claw it's way into the 21st century, no need to send them back. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said: Can you win this battle, there are so many pathetically undereducated Americans who have no idea what Socialism (Let alone Communism) really means. Needless to say the US health system is one of the worlds biggest jokes. Over twice as expensive as any other OECD country, and an average life expectancy the same as Cuba. Maybe some of the countries that these ladies came from could send their specialists to help the US claw it's way into the 21st century, no need to send them back. Personally, I'm not optimistic. The current occupant of the white house just with his judge picks alone (supreme and otherwise) has caused severe damage that will last for generations. If he wins a second term and he's already on record as wanting more than that, it's too terrible to imagine. Edited July 18, 2019 by Jingthing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EVENKEEL Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Nigel Garvie said: Can you win this battle, there are so many pathetically undereducated Americans who have no idea what Socialism (Let alone Communism) really means. Needless to say the US health system is one of the worlds biggest jokes. Over twice as expensive as any other OECD country, and an average life expectancy the same as Cuba. Maybe some of the countries that these ladies came from could send their specialists to help the US claw it's way into the 21st century, no need to send them back. Yes, please let's have Somalia's finest come to the USA and show us the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Garvie Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said: Yes, please let's have Somalia's finest come to the USA and show us the way. I imagine it is a daunting task for a citizen of any other country, when faced with a white American male (Particularly older ones) but maybe they could teach them humility. Look the word up if you need to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Socialism? You mean like nationalized health care (more or less) like every other "advanced" western nation and so many others? As far as the electoral college there do seem to be some tactics but it's hard to imagine how it can be changed by constitutional amendment.How is Nationalized medicine different from socialized medicine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, mogandave said: If slaves were counted as a full person, it would have given slave states more power. You guys crack me up. Slaves weren't allowed to vote. Counting slaves as three-fifths of a person increased the allotment of Representatives and members of the electoral college for slave states. All this increased political power went to the white male voters of these states. This power was not used to represent the interests of the slaves. Didn't you know this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slip Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, mogandave said: How is Nationalized medicine different from socialized medicine? It isn't. Trump supporters really need to get into the real world rather than trying to change back to 1830 odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted July 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mogandave said: How is Nationalized medicine different from socialized medicine? Each country that has some kind of universal does it differently. The obvious point is most of the nations that do have such programs and as that that is basically ALL advanced nations other than sadly backwards USA are not even close to being "socialist" nations. They have SOCIAL PROGRAMS going within their systems. In the U.S. we have the same for programs like social security, Medicaid, and Medicare. Edited July 18, 2019 by Jingthing 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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