The press was doing what they are doing now, reporting. That you don't remember has no relation at all with what was happening, and says a lot about your perception.

 

Sorry, I just assumed that had the previous administration been aware of all the sexual assaults taking place they would have tried to do something about it.

 

My bad.

 

1 hour ago, mogandave said:

 

Sorry, I just assumed that had the previous administration been aware of all the sexual assaults taking place they would have tried to do something about it.

 

My bad.

 

This is fake news.  Just because you didn't notice actions taken doesn't mean no actions were taken.  However, once again, your lack of recollection of things that happened years ago has nothing to do with this topic.

This is fake news.  Just because you didn't notice actions taken doesn't mean no actions were taken.  However, once again, your lack of recollection of things that happened years ago has nothing to do with this topic.

I meant something done beyond hand-ringing and whatnot. Clearly nothing of significance was done or AOC wouldn’t be going on about what a big problem it is, unless she’s just milking an old story for political gain.

18 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

I meant something done beyond hand-ringing and whatnot. Clearly nothing of significance was done or AOC wouldn’t be going on about what a big problem it is, unless she’s just milking an old story for political gain.
 

I see.  Since the problem of some people in uniform abusing prisoners wasn't solved before Trump, it's ok if the problem continues now and nobody should complain about it.  Is that your argument?

I see.  Since the problem of some people in uniform abusing prisoners wasn't solved before Trump, it's ok if the problem continues now and nobody should complain about it.  Is that your argument?

I’m not making an argument, I am only looking for clarification.

I don’t think we will ever see a time when “some people” are not abusing their authority, be it ICE officers, school teachers, policemen, judges, CEOs, doctors, movie producers or the manager at McDonald’s. But if the fact that some “prisoners” are abused is a sound reason to eliminate ICE, why is the fact that some students are abused not a sound reason to eliminate public schools?

The left is only using the issue to stir up a lot of animosity and keep the border issue unresolved. If they really wanted to do anything about it, they would be working with the administration.

To be clear, if eliminating ICE was part of a serious effort to seal the border and significantly reduce illegal immigration, I would support it. I would also support eliminating any number of other government agencies. You?

4 hours ago, mike787 said:

Trump is right, they don't like it return to your origins, maybe they will be happier there.

Trump is full of BS as usual. I expect no one in the US is 100% happy with the way their country is, including Trump who never stops whining. The overwhelming majority of US citizens want to stay there and try to make it better.

 

Whatever you do don't send Trump back to Scotland. We don't like racists and neo fascists, and nasty accidents can happen, being impaled on a golf club can be very uncomfortable.

3 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Yes, his quietness for many days.

As in the clue in The Hound of the Baskervilles: the dog didn't bark.

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I bet that one of (or more than one) Trumps staff have hit the bricks since last night when he gave a speech in front of a large "fake" Presidential seal.  The eagle had two heads and was holding a bag of golf clubs instead of a sword and the saying was changed from "e plurabus unum" to "45 is a puppet" in Spanish!

20 hours ago, mogandave said:

 

Why can’t you see he was talking about good people on both sides of the protest?

If he truly meant that everyone on both sides of the issue was good, why was he not attacked for saying ANTIFA was good people?


 

 

The verbal dexterity required to defend a man who sees the 10 commandments as a to-do list is truly something to behold.

Every (sane) person knows what he said and who he was saying it about. If you want to cocoon yourself in your own little echo chamber then please feel free but please don't insult our intelligence whilst doing so.

The verbal dexterity required to defend a man who sees the 10 commandments as a to-do list is truly something to behold.
Every (sane) person knows what he said and who he was saying it about. If you want to cocoon yourself in your own little echo chamber then please feel free but please don't insult our intelligence whilst doing so.

Wow, that is a really great response. Anyone that disagrees with you is insane.

Typical

 

I hope  President Trump's next physical exam includes a complete unbiased mental diagnosis.

 

14 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

Wow, that is a really great response. Anyone that disagrees with you is insane.

Typical

 

Well if the cap fits.

Trump basically said that there was 'fine people on both sides' and your defense of him was he was referring to 'good people on both sides of the protest'. How can there be 'good people on both sides of the protest' when one of the sides are a bunch of neo-Nazis? 

I'm going to take a wild guess and go with there are no 'good' or 'fine' neo-Nazis. Would you like to refute this?

Well if the cap fits.
Trump basically said that there was 'fine people on both sides' and your defense of him was he was referring to 'good people on both sides of the protest'. How can there be 'good people on both sides of the protest' when one of the sides are a bunch of neo-Nazis? 
I'm going to take a wild guess and go with there are no 'good' or 'fine' neo-Nazis. Would you like to refute this?

So it’s your position that everyone at the rally that did not want the statue moved was a neo-nazi, correct?

Well if the cap fits.
Trump basically said that there was 'fine people on both sides' and your defense of him was he was referring to 'good people on both sides of the protest'. How can there be 'good people on both sides of the protest' when one of the sides are a bunch of neo-Nazis? 
I'm going to take a wild guess and go with there are no 'good' or 'fine' neo-Nazis. Would you like to refute this?

Incidentally, when he made the “fine people” comment he made it was clear that it did not include neo-nazis. Of course that part of his statement didn’t make it to the news, neither did his condemnation of those groups.

8 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

So it’s your position that everyone at the rally that did not want the statue moved was a neo-nazi, correct?

 

If they weren't card carrying members of the neo-Nazis, they at least knew this was all set up by white nationalists and racists so yeah, I'm going to guess that they held certain sympathies.  

If they weren't card carrying members of the neo-Nazis, they at least knew this was all set up by white nationalists and racists so yeah, I'm going to guess that they held certain sympathies.  

How would they know it was all set up by white nationalists, assuming of course it was.

Absolutely wrong.

He started off his ramblings by talking how the 'left' attacked the neo-Nazis which led on to his 'fine people' statement. He was essentially defending the neo-Nazis more than the other side and if you can't see that then there is really no point in debating you. 

If you need to refresh your memory, here's the horses mouth 

  

 

Got the volume working, my bad.

 

At about the two minute mark he says he’s not talking about the neo-nazis and goes on to condemn them.

 

Pretty much how I remember it.

15 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

How would they know it was all set up by white nationalists, assuming of course it was.

 

It was and it was well publicized as such. 

The chants -- Jews will not replace us would be a good clue if you "innocently" showed up. 

Thanks to the democrat party attacks on white people are on the rise. 

 

Imagine if a white person said the things Omar has said?

 

The party of manufactured racism is giving everyone racism fatigue. Rational people are becoming comfortably numb to this stuff. Keeping the “squad” front and center of the Democrat platform is a brilliant stratagem by Trump. Keep the squad in everyone’s face 24/7. 

 

Non-stop racism, super high taxes, open borders and a welfare state, reparations, and white man bad, will appeal to 30% of the democrat/socialists. 

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6 hours ago, mogandave said:

 

So it’s your position that everyone at the rally that did not want the statue moved was a neo-nazi, correct?

 

 

6 hours ago, mogandave said:

 

How would they know it was all set up by white nationalists, assuming of course it was.

 

Don't you think any "very fine people" who had come to protest the statue removal would have left as soon as they saw the swastikas, white hoods, and fascists marching with tiki torches and chanting "Jews will not replace us"?

3 hours ago, Guitarzan said:

Thanks to the democrat party attacks on white people are on the rise. 

 

Imagine if a white person said the things Omar has said?

 

The party of manufactured racism is giving everyone racism fatigue. Rational people are becoming comfortably numb to this stuff. Keeping the “squad” front and center of the Democrat platform is a brilliant stratagem by Trump. Keep the squad in everyone’s face 24/7. 

 

Non-stop racism, super high taxes, open borders and a welfare state, reparations, and white man bad, will appeal to 30% of the democrat/socialists. 

What has Omar said that you consider racist?

 

"Rational people" know that racism is real, not manufactured.

 

"Non-stop racism, super high taxes, open borders and a welfare state, ... and white man bad" are BS manufactured by right-wing pundits and believed by their irrational fans.  Reparations are getting some discussion, but nothing is substantive has been proposed and I doubt anything will. 

 

You are simply repeating right-wing talking points. 

What has Omar said that you consider racist?
 
"Rational people" know that racism is real, not manufactured.
 
"Non-stop racism, super high taxes, open borders and a welfare state, ... and white man bad" are BS manufactured by right-wing pundits and believed by their irrational fans.  Reparations are getting some discussion, but nothing is substantive has been proposed and I doubt anything will. 
 
You are simply repeating right-wing talking points. 

I think when she says she only wants blacks with black voices at the table, I think that is racist.

What has Omar said that you consider racist?
 
"Rational people" know that racism is real, not manufactured.
 
"Non-stop racism, super high taxes, open borders and a welfare state, ... and white man bad" are BS manufactured by right-wing pundits and believed by their irrational fans.  Reparations are getting some discussion, but nothing is substantive has been proposed and I doubt anything will. 
 
You are simply repeating right-wing talking points. 

Yes, we all know racism is real, but at least some of is know everything that is called racist is not.

Calling someone a racist is just an easy way to discredit someone without having to discuss the issues they bring up.

47 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

I think when she says she only wants blacks with black voices at the table, I think that is racist.

 

Citation please.  I'm not saying you are incorrect, but I would love to know where this claim is based in fact.

Trump is Great , the GREAT DON !!!!!!????

12 minutes ago, Slip said:

Citation please.  I'm not saying you are incorrect, but I would love to know where this claim is based in fact.

I think he's referring to a different person. 
 

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/07/18/pressley-only-the-right-voices-are-welcome-to-speak/

 

Anyway what Pressley said is clearly moronic but her words in no way represents the majority of democratic elected officials or voters. In fact only a tiny minority are that offensively radical. Of course the "trump" fans are trying to paint things that way. That's how they roll. Very big on toxic propaganda.

What has Omar said that you consider racist?
 
"Rational people" know that racism is real, not manufactured.
 
"Non-stop racism, super high taxes, open borders and a welfare state, ... and white man bad" are BS manufactured by right-wing pundits and believed by their irrational fans.  Reparations are getting some discussion, but nothing is substantive has been proposed and I doubt anything will. 
 
You are simply repeating right-wing talking points. 

Open borders is a right wing talking point with 900,000 open asylum cases and thousand of people flooding accosts the border and overstaying visas? Eliminate ICE and detain no one at the border?

Yes, nothing will come of reparations, but the left will use it to secure their black vote (which I think is slipping) all the way through the election. Every democrat will support it knowing it’s s lie and every Republican will be called a when they don’t.

I think he's referring to a different person. 

 

https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/07/18/pressley-only-the-right-voices-are-welcome-to-speak/

 

Anyway what Pressley said is clearly moronic but her words in no way represents the majority of democratic elected officials or voters. In fact only a tiny minority are that offensively radical. Of course the "trump" fans are trying to paint things that way. That's how they roll. Very big on toxic propaganda.

 

I don’t think most Democrats support that brand of crap, that’s why it amazes me that they the support they have. Clearly the hard left supports it.