Slip Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said: Don't worry we'll soon have parity with the dollar and it will make holidays to US easy for those that can afford one. This is the Brexiteers pain - a door through which we must all pass before we get to the mountaintop of sovereignty / freedom. A place where the rich establishment with a cheery wave to the British working man shower him with cash and benefits in a unique reversal of capitalism. Well, at least the outlook isn't too* bleak. We shall simply have to engage our stiff upper lips as we feast on badger, just like the old days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post beautifulthailand99 Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Slip said: Well, at least the outlook isn't too* bleak. We shall simply have to engage our stiff upper lips as we feast on badger, just like the old days. Maybe we'll get some of the Empire back from those grinning piccaninnies (BJ's word not mine) and when we properly run their broken down countries once again we can nick some of their resources if the Chinaman hasn't got them first for ourselves. Just like the good old days.....doesn't matter about the piffling details just be positive - that should do it. Doodle pip - behold your rulers and bow down before your betters. The new champions of the English working class. Edited July 26, 2019 by beautifulthailand99 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 56 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said: Maybe we'll get some of the Empire back from those grinning piccaninnies (BJ's word not mine) and when we properly run their broken down countries once again we can nick some of their resources if the Chinaman hasn't got them first for ourselves. Just like the good old days.....doesn't matter about the piffling details just be positive - that should do it. Doodle pip - behold your rulers and bow down before your betters. The new champions of the English working class. So this long gone history you referring to http://www.elizabethan-era.org.uk/famous-elizabethan-pirates.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post beautifulthailand99 Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 To all you leavers I respectfully ask you a serious question - how do you think will YOUR life be personally better after Brexit - and please no sloganeering - taking back control WTO is another organisation with rules and responsibilities. And why should a rich elite of anti-establishment mostly Tories and their fellow travelers deliver these perceived benefits for you ? I get why the head of the Leavers BoJo , hedge funds, vulture capitalists and their ilk want it - volatility / chaos is what they crave most they profit from it and it is what they do. They are rich and will be much richer if it goes to plan. And I get why Russia wants the fall of the western democratic institutions and a dilution of western power and why they have helped to create a climate in which it can happen. I also get that the financial crisis of 2008 , increased globalisation , endless wars in muslim countries and the sale of council houses under Thatcher plus the last final surge of post accession EU countries have created an impoverishing of the average British family compared to the life our/their parents had. But the EU had nothing to do with that. Do you not see that you seem to have placed all your bets on having a better life on leaving the EU and now seemingly in a most acrimonious manner. I know I mock and belittle leavers here - and if I have been too personal and over the top I apologise. But rather than talk process , strategy and tactics I would genuinely like to know why you believe so fervently in something so devoid of reason. If we smash up institutions and abandon the 'experts' and divide society and increase intolerance what have we left ? This is still a great country and one I am proud to have been born in and wouldn't want to personally live anywhere else. That said I have done well and have a comfortable living in my retirement - if that wasn't so then I would most probably think differently. And if I had to put a class tag on me it would be lower middle class and I can honestly say you find more friendship,honesty,selflessness and good naturedness amongst the working class than you do with the rich and entitled in most cases. Anyway enough of my sad lament for our country and sorry if I don't share the current roller coaster of optimism that BoJo has unleashed. I want my old country back but I fear that ship has long since sailed. ???????????? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 not sailed, sunk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithai12 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said: I get it you want a British passport. No shame in that as millions seem to want one too. in fact it is the most sought after passport in the world. Leaving the EU will be like the abolition of slavery to me. Regrets, I have only two. One we should have never joined and two, we should have left much earlier. I am curious about where you read that British passport "is the most sought after passport in the world". Do you mean for travel, or for the privilege of being a UK citizen? I googled, and this is the list of "most powerful passports" in 2019, for ease of travel: 1 Japan (free access to 190 countries and jurisdictions) 2 Singapore & South Korea (189) 3 France & Germany (188) 4 Denmark, Finland, Sweden & Italy (187) 5 Luxembourg & Spain (186) 6 Austria, Portugal, Norway, Netherlands, Switzerland, UK & USA (185) I can well imagine that some of the destinations allowed are probably marginally interesting, so let's say they basically are all up there together, but I don't see an obvious advantage in the UK passport. In fact, when I read about the joys of dealing with the UK Embassy in Bangkok on this forum, I am quite happy with mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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geoffbezoz Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 4 hours ago, arithai12 said: I am curious about where you read that British passport "is the most sought after passport in the world". Do you mean for travel, or for the privilege of being a UK citizen? I googled, and this is the list of "most powerful passports" in 2019, for ease of travel: 1 Japan (free access to 190 countries and jurisdictions) 2 Singapore & South Korea (189) 3 France & Germany (188) 4 Denmark, Finland, Sweden & Italy (187) 5 Luxembourg & Spain (186) 6 Austria, Portugal, Norway, Netherlands, Switzerland, UK & USA (185) I can well imagine that some of the destinations allowed are probably marginally interesting, so let's say they basically are all up there together, but I don't see an obvious advantage in the UK passport. In fact, when I read about the joys of dealing with the UK Embassy in Bangkok on this forum, I am quite happy with mine. It was a 100 years ago maybe which is where Great Britain is looking to go back to with BJ and Brexit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbezoz Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 8 hours ago, fishtank said: Boris the lying wife beater and his extreme right wing cabinet. Really gives us confidence for the future. With Boris the future is grim on all fronts, not more so than climate control policies. Look who he has just appointed, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 14 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said: With Boris the future is grim on all fronts, not more so than climate control policies. Look who he has just appointed, No wonder trump claims BJ is "Britain trump", along with appointing Ministers who lean to 'right of centre' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, arithai12 said: I am curious about where you read that British passport "is the most sought after passport in the world". Do you mean for travel, or for the privilege of being a UK citizen? I googled, and this is the list of "most powerful passports" in 2019, for ease of travel: 1 Japan (free access to 190 countries and jurisdictions) 2 Singapore & South Korea (189) 3 France & Germany (188) 4 Denmark, Finland, Sweden & Italy (187) 5 Luxembourg & Spain (186) 6 Austria, Portugal, Norway, Netherlands, Switzerland, UK & USA (185) I can well imagine that some of the destinations allowed are probably marginally interesting, so let's say they basically are all up there together, but I don't see an obvious advantage in the UK passport. In fact, when I read about the joys of dealing with the UK Embassy in Bangkok on this forum, I am quite happy with mine. I hope "laughing gravy" does not get a stroke to see 25 country' go ahead on U.K. ranking (not that i find that so important ….he does , seems ...lol) whereby many E.U. country's like mine …. lol https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php (2019) Edited July 26, 2019 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 6 hours ago, arithai12 said: I am curious about where you read that British passport "is the most sought after passport in the world". Do you mean for travel, or for the privilege of being a UK citizen? Well yes because of this that you mentioned plus look how many foreigners are still looking to come to the UK for citizenship. Isn't that evidence enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, david555 said: I hope "laughing gravy" does not get a stroke to see 25 country' go ahead on U.K. ranking (not that i find that so important ….he does , seems ...lol) whereby many E.U. country's like mine …. lol https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php (2019) A stroke, I am fit as a fiddle. I am still waiting to see your EU passport that doesn't exist. It was you that mentioned this, so I suggest that you do find it important, as why mention it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: A stroke, I am fit as a fiddle. I am still waiting to see your EU passport that doesn't exist. It was you that mentioned this, so I suggest that you do find it important, as why mention it. Glad to hear you are ok sir , I was worried , such a shock to see so many are of higher ranking than U.k (lol) even the frog's..... And as said before you are right E.U. passport is not really existing but it carry the naming upper side in 4 languages , to make it easy for the only 1 language U.K. ones : EUROPEAN UNION and under that in second Alline the country …..you could ask Farage and many others to see how it looks , many from the brexiteers played safe and became E.U. passport holders by double nationality (lol) Even your U.K. passport carry in first line up "European Union ".... Edited July 27, 2019 by david555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, david555 said: Glad to hear you are ok sir , I was worried , such a shock to see so many are of higher ranking than U.k (lol) even the frog's..... And as said before you are right E.U. passport is not really existing but it carry the naming upper side in 4 languages , to make it easy for the only 1 language U.K. ones : EUROPEAN UNION and under that in second Alline the country …..you could ask Farage and many others to see how it looks , many from the brexiteers played safe and became E.U. passport holders by double nationality (lol) Even your U.K. passport carry in first line up "European Union ".... Well there is a first you admitting you were talking rubbish. Some progress. As to others who have dual nationality, that is fine. Its their choice. I won't be following I do not sprout hate an jealousy for an EU country like you do with the UK. It is the EU entity that I dislike not any country in Europe or those who have sold their souls, to the EU. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: Well there is a first you admitting you were talking rubbish. Some progress. As to others who have dual nationality, that is fine. Its their choice. I won't be following I do not sprout hate an jealousy for an EU country like you do with the UK. It is the EU entity that I dislike not any country in Europe or those who have sold their souls, to the EU. "sprout hate an jealousy" is more coming from your side it looks …. as I only defend the position from E.U. side and truly i feel pity for the so called 48 % , and especially for the Scotts who choose in majority to stay in European union The whole situation came from the red lines , once red lines where on table the blockage appeared . Remember Junckers main reply : it is not the E.U. is leaving U.K. but the U.K. leaving the European Union …. (meaning we can not stop you leaving , but you can not change our Union …) Edited July 27, 2019 by david555 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing Gravy Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 minute ago, david555 said: "sprout hate an jealousy" is more coming from your side it looks …. as I only defend the position from E.U. side and truly i feel pity for the so called 48 % , and especially for the Scotts who choose in majority to stay in European union The whole situation came from the red lines , once red lines where on table the blockage appeared . Remember Junckers main reply : it is not the E.U. is leaving U.K. but the U.K. leaving the European Union …. (meaning we can not stop you , but you can not change our Union …) You go ahead and defend the EU as I have mentioned many times you are getting shafted by Germany but seem to like it. I will wait for the next time you sprout hate and jealousy about the UK, as from your previous posts you can't help yourself. So pointless discussing this, until next time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david555 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 Just now, Laughing Gravy said: You go ahead and defend the EU as I have mentioned many times you are getting shafted by Germany but seem to like it. I will wait for the next time you sprout hate and jealousy about the UK, as from your previous posts you can't help yourself. So pointless discussing this, until next time. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: those who have sold their souls, I suppose one can tell that my home country sold its soul to the E.U.. The big change which occurred to me is that now the currency I use when in Belgium is that it isn't anymore the Belgian Franc, but the Euro. Belgium is still issuing different rules and laws than other countries in Europe in order to accommodate the Belgians, the E.U. hasn't any interference in this matter. For me personally it is a not negligible one : 25% more pension as I am married, my widow will receive 85% of my pension till the rest of her life. I still hear the Belgian anthem playing on evenements. Sometimes they also play next to the Brabanconne(Belgian anthem), another melody, one from Beethoven. Not really a problem, most of us don't even know what it represents, as it is of no really importance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laughing Gravy Posted July 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, luckyluke said: I suppose one can tell that my home country sold its soul to the E.U.. The big change which occurred to me is that now the currency I use when in Belgium is that it isn't anymore the Belgian Franc, but the Euro. Belgium is still issuing different rules and laws than other countries in Europe in order to accommodate the Belgians, the E.U. hasn't any interference in this matter. For me personally it is a not negligible one : 25% more pension as I am married, my widow will receive 85% of my pension till the rest of her life. I still hear the Belgian anthem playing on evenements. Sometimes they also play next to the Brabanconne(Belgian anthem), another melody, one from Beethoven. Not really a problem, most of us don't even know what it represents, as it is of no really importance. Maybe Belgium is lucky then, other countries are not. I am not trying to belittle Belgium at all but what does it export. Whats its main business. You say you can sing your national anthem, that is great. Sadly in the UK you fly a union Jack and you are racist and told to take it down, as a hate crime. You sing the national anthem you can get arrested. Maybe this will be coming to Belgium soon but for Belgium's sake, I hope not. The whole EU and the UK people should take note, that as a country we tried the cub for 44 years and (still not left) and we voted leave. That should be the end of it. Edited July 27, 2019 by Laughing Gravy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: Whats its main business. No idea, our chocolate and beer is well known. 3 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: You sing the national anthem you can get arrested Than there is something rotten in your state, but I assume you can not blame the E.U. for this. 5 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: we tried the cub for 44 years and (still not left) and we voted leave That's fair enough, as Charles de Gaulle told it many years ago : the U.K. doesn't fit in the European Union. You are an Important country, always have been. You are not the kind to adapt to others, more the one which should told the others how to do. There was a time it worked well. Now there is Germany and even France which have identical ambitions. We Belgians are more adept of the following : The dogs bark, but the caravan goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Garvie Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 45 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: Maybe Belgium is lucky then, other countries are not. I am not trying to belittle Belgium at all but what does it export. Whats its main business. You say you can sing your national anthem, that is great. Sadly in the UK you fly a union Jack and you are racist and told to take it down, as a hate crime. You sing the national anthem you can get arrested. Maybe this will be coming to Belgium soon but for Belgium's sake, I hope not. The whole EU and the UK people should take note, that as a country we tried the cub for 44 years and (still not left) and we voted leave. That should be the end of it. I see Union Jacks all over the place, and that's in Scotland, I have never heard of anyone being told it was racist, maybe other posters can confirm your assertions, it sounds extremely odd to me. My (Rather nutty it is true) neighbour has one over his front door, everyone tolerates him, it's a friendly village. Kindly advise under which law you could be arrested for singing the national anthem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laughing Gravy Posted July 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said: I see Union Jacks all over the place, and that's in Scotland, I have never heard of anyone being told it was racist, maybe other posters can confirm your assertions, it sounds extremely odd to me. My (Rather nutty it is true) neighbour has one over his front door, everyone tolerates him, it's a friendly village. Kindly advise under which law you could be arrested for singing the national anthem. You should read more. In fact it is easily found in internet searches. same with the English flag. It takes a minute. People have been told to take them down by the police as it could incite hate. The same with singing the national anthem, the police can and have said it can incite hatred. Go and sing it outside your local mosque and see what happens. You do seem to live in a lucky village, for now. Good luck to you, that it stays that way. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/772512/union-jack-flag-banned-britain-patriotic-veteran-andrew-smith https://kippercentral.com/2018/04/21/khans-london-union-jack-banned-and-branded-offensive/ https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/45503/Police-told-man-to-hide-racist-St-George-flag https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/id-arrested-take-down-england-1672407 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-bar-owner-benidorm-told-13886071 https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/pub-english-flags-highway-code-11505807 Edited July 27, 2019 by Laughing Gravy 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said: You should read more. In fact it is easily found in internet searches. same with the English flag. It takes a minute. People have been told to take them down by the police as it could incite hate. The same with singing the national anthem, the police can and have said it can incite hatred. Go and sing it outside your local mosque and see what happens. You do seem to live in a lucky village, for now. Good luck to you, that it stays that way. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/772512/union-jack-flag-banned-britain-patriotic-veteran-andrew-smith https://kippercentral.com/2018/04/21/khans-london-union-jack-banned-and-branded-offensive/ https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/45503/Police-told-man-to-hide-racist-St-George-flag https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/id-arrested-take-down-england-1672407 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/british-bar-owner-benidorm-told-13886071 https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/pub-english-flags-highway-code-11505807 Horror of horror - non compliance to council regs is the primary complaint, with police being anal with road safety. From my understanding real police intervention is applied during concern for incitement for violence during street demos by the right of centre. You know the self declared 'patriots' so loved by some members of this forum. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post beautifulthailand99 Posted July 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2019 13 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said: To all you leavers I respectfully ask you a serious question - how do you think will YOUR life be personally better after Brexit - and please no sloganeering - taking back control WTO is another organisation with rules and responsibilities. And why should a rich elite of anti-establishment mostly Tories and their fellow travelers deliver these perceived benefits for you ? I get why the head of the Leavers BoJo , hedge funds, vulture capitalists and their ilk want it - volatility / chaos is what they crave most they profit from it and it is what they do. They are rich and will be much richer if it goes to plan. And I get why Russia wants the fall of the western democratic institutions and a dilution of western power and why they have helped to create a climate in which it can happen. I also get that the financial crisis of 2008 , increased globalisation , endless wars in muslim countries and the sale of council houses under Thatcher plus the last final surge of post accession EU countries have created an impoverishing of the average British family compared to the life our/their parents had. But the EU had nothing to do with that. Do you not see that you seem to have placed all your bets on having a better life on leaving the EU and now seemingly in a most acrimonious manner. I know I mock and belittle leavers here - and if I have been too personal and over the top I apologise. But rather than talk process , strategy and tactics I would genuinely like to know why you believe so fervently in something so devoid of reason. If we smash up institutions and abandon the 'experts' and divide society and increase intolerance what have we left ? This is still a great country and one I am proud to have been born in and wouldn't want to personally live anywhere else. That said I have done well and have a comfortable living in my retirement - if that wasn't so then I would most probably think differently. And if I had to put a class tag on me it would be lower middle class and I can honestly say you find more friendship,honesty,selflessness and good naturedness amongst the working class than you do with the rich and entitled in most cases. Anyway enough of my sad lament for our country and sorry if I don't share the current roller coaster of optimism that BoJo has unleashed. I want my old country back but I fear that ship has long since sailed. ???????????? No answers - never mind one poster compared getting out of the Eu feels like the abolition of slavery , another worried he can't fly his flag , nothing to do with the EU just rubbish qouted from the Daily Star on a low tit day. An ignorant madness has gripped a section of British society and this is how empires fall. Pound hit a new all time low today and it's only going one way. Good look all who sail in the HMS Brexiteer as it steams off to meet the Trump aircraft carrier - your feelings now are all you've got because I guess that's why you 'believe' in Brexit like a Christian has an unshakeable belief in Jesus who makes them happy. And when it all goes wrong it will be the EU / sabotaging fifth columnist remoaners who wrecked the plan. As for the unspoken too many immigrants - Boris has guaranteed them residency and a path to citizenship, So if Europe becomes the clusterggggg you seem to believe it will be they will stay put here rather than going home. And the half a million illegal immigrants amnesty Boris is touting - he wants cheap , grateful labour who will live 8 to a small flat and be happy for the crumbs off the British table. So the landscape of Britain for the British will not change much, the door was left open too long and pretty much everyone who wanted to come has already come - and the best , most talented with skills we need like scientists, doctors and nurses will probably be looking elsewhere given the mood here and the state of the pound. So the immigrant rump will be even less desirable than it was before. But thankfully the average Brit has no truck with fascism. So very little will change except we will get poorer - the ones on fixed sterling incomes overseas are getting hit hardest and first as you well know. So if it's that proud feeling of being British and Brexit gives you that enjoy this ride while you can. One thing that life has taught me is the rich look after themselves and the poor only get benefits if they fight for them - this time the poor are rolling over to populist mantras parroted by clever folk waiting to carve up the UK into a low cost,low regulatory regime that will make the elites much richer - it is a brilliant plan I must admit and the vulture capitalists are circling looking at the huge carcasses of UK equity they can gorge and feast on. It was Labour after the war that gave the Uk the NHS and the welfare state , housing and pensions and after the war where fighting men and women my parents amongst them said enough of Churchill now - he helped us win the war now we want a society fit for all. No we have his bumbling shadow and biographer BoJo trying to channel his greatness. Once this 'Brexit Party' is over everything will pretty much be the same , except you will be poorer but probably no wiser and the queue to see a doctor will be longer. But at least you won't feel like a slave anymore and you will be able to fly your flag without harassment if that's your bag. Oh and the 20k coppers Boris has touted are less to do with crime than keeping social order when the poor realise that they have been shafted once again. Just like 'The Who' always said you would.... There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Is now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight I'll tip my hat to the new constitution Take a bow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday Then I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again Don't get fooled again, no no Yeaaah! Meet the new boss Same as the old boss Anyway enough of misery let us celebrate the genius of Mrs Mills (and Morecambe and Wise) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post geoffbezoz Posted July 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said: No answers - never mind one poster compared getting out of the Eu feels like the abolition of slavery , another worried he can't fly his flag , nothing to do with the EU just rubbish qouted from the Daily Star on a low tit day. An ignorant madness has gripped a section of British society and this is how empires fall. Pound hit a new all time low today and it's only going one way. Good look all who sail in the HMS Brexiteer as it steams off to meet the Trump aircraft carrier - your feelings now are all you've got because I guess that's why you 'believe' in Brexit like a Christian has an unshakeable belief in Jesus who makes them happy. And when it all goes wrong it will be the EU / sabotaging fifth columnist remoaners who wrecked the plan. As for the unspoken too many immigrants - Boris has guaranteed them residency and a path to citizenship, So if Europe becomes the clusterggggg you seem to believe it will be they will stay put here rather than going home. And the half a million illegal immigrants amnesty Boris is touting - he wants cheap , grateful labour who will live 8 to a small flat and be happy for the crumbs off the British table. So the landscape of Britain for the British will not change much, the door was left open too long and pretty much everyone who wanted to come has already come - and the best , most talented with skills we need like scientists, doctors and nurses will probably be looking elsewhere given the mood here and the state of the pound. So the immigrant rump will be even less desirable than it was before. But thankfully the average Brit has no truck with fascism. So very little will change except we will get poorer - the ones on fixed sterling incomes overseas are getting hit hardest and first as you well know. So if it's that proud feeling of being British and Brexit gives you that enjoy this ride while you can. One thing that life has taught me is the rich look after themselves and the poor only get benefits if they fight for them - this time the poor are rolling over to populist mantras parroted by clever folk waiting to carve up the UK into a low cost,low regulatory regime that will make the elites much richer - it is a brilliant plan I must admit and the vulture capitalists are circling looking at the huge carcasses of UK equity they can gorge and feast on. It was Labour after the war that gave the Uk the NHS and the welfare state , housing and pensions and after the war where fighting men and women my parents amongst them said enough of Churchill now - he helped us win the war now we want a society fit for all. No we have his bumbling shadow and biographer BoJo trying to channel his greatness. Once this 'Brexit Party' is over everything will pretty much be the same , except you will be poorer but probably no wiser and the queue to see a doctor will be longer. But at least you won't feel like a slave anymore and you will be able to fly your flag without harassment if that's your bag. Oh and the 20k coppers Boris has touted are less to do with crime than keeping social order when the poor realise that they have been shafted once again. Just like 'The Who' always said you would.... There's nothing in the streets Looks any different to me And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye And the parting on the left Is now parting on the right And the beards have all grown longer overnight I'll tip my hat to the new constitution Take a bow for the new revolution Smile and grin at the change all around Pick up my guitar and play Just like yesterday Then I'll get on my knees and pray We don't get fooled again Don't get fooled again, no no Yeaaah! Meet the new boss Same as the old boss Anyway enough of misery let us celebrate the genius of Mrs Mills (and Morecambe and Wise) If there was a post of the day award then in my book, this one of yours would get my vote. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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