Assuming EU will not budge, Britain ramps up preparations for no-deal Brexit

[beautifulthailand99]

This 100 million campaign is a scandal and part of BoJo scare tactics to convince the EU and us that they 'mean business'. In the end he will probably get some movement on the backstop , some cosmetic changes here and there - trumpet it as a triumph of BoJo optimism and we will pay up and pay to be in arrangements that give us frictionless access to European markets. Every EU immigrant who is already here (3.5 million) can stay and half a million illegals may get a legal road to residency. You Brexit wet dreamers better get ready for nothing much will really change except we have wasted 3 years on this farce and in the end we will have access to our most important markets but without a say in future policy. BRINO v2.0 is on the way. Your nostalgia Britain of warm beer , cricket and white faces has long gone and it ain't coming back. 

 

It's all just a performance for the benefit of EU negotiators and Tory party members, and the end result will still be the CU+SM Brexit that May could have delivered in March 2019, but making the nation go a bit mental with taxpayer-funded propaganda is a fun way to spend 100 people's lifetime earnings nonetheless.

 

He'd rather have a deal. He's much more of a tory hero if he can sell the idea of succeeding where may couldn't and bending the EU to his will. That doesn't mean he actually has to bend the EU to his will, and no doubt he won't, but facts don't matter much anymore in his reasoning. It's all just image management. Banking on ignorance and disinterest. 

 

It's in the interest of the EU to make brexit as painful as possible for the UK. This is a gamble for them too, a pretty big roll of the dice on which the future of the bloc may rest. They need to show the other member states why exiting is not in their interest. They are already doing, have done that through the withdrawal agreement. The alternative, no deal, allows them to make life harder for the UK. Something the EU will do, all the while presenting itself as the smiley reasonable progressive one. Bj knows all this. He's not a tory hero if no deal brexit leads to Corbyn government and/or having to rejoin the EU down the line (obviously on much worse terms than present). Just remember it's all about BoJo seeming to be the all conquering hero  and killing the Brexit Party.
 

Edited July 29, 2019 by beautifulthailand99

[Laughing Gravy]

12 hours ago, puipuitom said:

Exactly as Charles de Gaulle in 1963 had as reason to block the UK from entering the EEC

Well we agree on something.

[Laughing Gravy]

12 hours ago, puipuitom said:

Which form of "leave"? A No Deal Leave, or a super-soft "leave", or a Norway agreement or... never visit/contact any EU country anymore ? 

The term soft Brexit or leave was made up by Reamainers after Leave won. There was no term soft on the ballot paper. You may not know not being British or voted in the referendum.

[david555]

2 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

The term soft Brexit or leave was made up by Reamainers after Leave won. There was no term soft on the ballot paper. You may not know not being British or voted in the referendum.

Being also not a Brit and so not knowing...,I wonder if the option "No deal" was that on the ballot paper then?…..(lol) 

[Laughing Gravy]

3 minutes ago, david555 said:

Being also not a Brit and so not knowing...,I wonder if the option "No deal" was that on the ballot paper then?…..(lol) 

It was leave or remain, even the ill informed and ignorant know that. So leave, as many have pointed out means leave. In English not Dutch that means by any means possible. We don't need to put terms on the end as it is clear, as English mustard.

[david555]

1 minute ago, Laughing Gravy said:

It was leave or remain, even the ill informed and ignorant know that. So leave, as many have pointed out means leave. In English not Dutch that means by any means possible. We don't need to put terms on the end as it is clear, as English mustard.

Good morning ,I was just answering one stupid remark with another stupid from me , hoping you would see yours …. 

Not apparently ….

[Chomper Higgot]

11 hours ago, vogie said:

The country voted to leave, have you forgotten that?

 

Country? Nation!

 

Voted to leave? The majority of citizens in the Nation did not.

 

 

[vogie]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Country? Nation!

 

Voted to leave? The majority of citizens in the Nation did not.

 

 

Yeah whatever, getting tired of your semantics.

[Chomper Higgot]

Bangkok Bank £/฿ 36.78 

 

Enjoy.

[Chomper Higgot]

Just now, vogie said:

Yeah whatever, getting tired of your semantics.

It is not semantics, your statement was factually incorrect.

 

[bannork]

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

It was leave or remain, even the ill informed and ignorant know that. So leave, as many have pointed out means leave. In English not Dutch that means by any means possible. We don't need to put terms on the end as it is clear, as English mustard.

Who ever said leave means leave by any means possible? Was that written in the question at the referendum?

If someone asked you if you wanted to remain on or leave an island and you said yes to the latter, only to find the way you are going to leave is on a boat riddled with holes, you might change your mind about leaving.

[evadgib]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Country? Nation!

 

Voted to leave? The majority of citizens in the Nation did not.

The UK was and remains the sole Country to have taken part.

[Scott]

Troll post reported and removed.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

8 minutes ago, evadgib said:

The UK was and remains the sole Country to have taken part.

England, Scotland, Wales are counties.

 

The UK is a nation.

 

Though I have noticed Brexiteers frequently refer to England when discussing their hopes/fears for Brexit.

[Laughing Gravy]

1 hour ago, david555 said:

Good morning ,I was just answering one stupid remark with another stupid from me , hoping you would see yours …. 

Not apparently ….

Actually your remark was stupid, mine was factual.????

[bert bloggs]

37 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Country? Nation!

 

Voted to leave? The majority of citizens in the Nation did not.

 

 

Yes those who voted did ,if you cant be bothered to vote ,tough ,we voted leave , thats it the votes were counted and leave won ,when we have a general election ,do we have another if the losers dont like it ? and dont say "yes in 5 yrs time"

[tebee]

14 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Tell that to the Americans, Europeans and Aussies living in Thailand.

5 years ago the $ was worth about 32 baht now it's worth about 30 

5 years ago the £ was worth about 55 baht now it's worth about 37.5

 

I don't think those americans have anything like as much to worry about as the british 

[evadgib]

26 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

England, Scotland, Wales are counties.

 

The UK is a nation.

 

Though I have noticed Brexiteers frequently refer to England when discussing their hopes/fears for Brexit.

.

[Laughing Gravy]

36 minutes ago, bannork said:

Who ever said leave means leave by any means possible? Was that written in the question at the referendum?

If someone asked you if you wanted to remain on or leave an island and you said yes to the latter, only to find the way you are going to leave is on a boat riddled with holes, you might change your mind about leaving.

Well if you don't have a list of what leave means then you take the exact term, literally. remember the leader of remain telling everyone, if people voted leave we would be leaving. David Cameron in case you forgot.

 

Your analogy is rubbish. How do you know there are holes. We haven't left yet. It is just the remainers and those trying their best, to frighten and keep the UK shackled to the EU. People won't die, we are leaving an entity, not relinquishing modern day living. Talk about doomsday talk. Please

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

Yes those who voted did ,if you cant be bothered to vote ,tough ,we voted leave , thats it the votes were counted and leave won ,when we have a general election ,do we have another if the losers dont like it ? and dont say "yes in 5 yrs time"

General Elections are advisory. 

[bannork]

6 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Well if you don't have a list of what leave means then you take the exact term, literally. remember the leader of remain telling everyone, if people voted leave we would be leaving. David Cameron in case you forgot.

 

Your analogy is rubbish. How do you know there are holes. We haven't left yet. It is just the remainers and those trying their best, to frighten and keep the UK shackled to the EU. People won't die, we are leaving an entity, not relinquishing modern day living. Talk about doomsday talk. Please

Plenty of businesses giving plenty of warnings about the consequences, or are they all secret members of 'project fear'? 

[bert bloggs]

28 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

General Elections are advisory. 

So was the leave campaign ,you voted if you cared ,but keep trying chomper ,

[Chomper Higgot]

12 minutes ago, bert bloggs said:

So was the leave campaign ,you voted if you cared ,but keep trying chomper ,

I was being facetious, but you are correct, the referendum was advisory. 

 

 

[rosst]

I am not affected by Brexit but Crazy Boris must scare the Euro mob and they may even be scared enough to renegotiate, I am hoping so. 

Prior to this they had no reason to because they had bluffed the UK parliament and May. 

Now they are not so sure as crazy Boris is likely to do anything, ha ha ha. 

The poll showing a gain in popularity for the conservatives should serve as a warning to Labor to start governing for the good of the country and keep the politics out of it.  If they indicated they would be interested in going along with Boris it could sway the Euro mob into coming to the party. 

Sadly it is affecting many of the expats in Thailand and that is regrettable, I hope the pain stops soon. 

[evadgib]

More good news

[Jip99]

7 hours ago, tebee said:

5 years ago the $ was worth about 32 baht now it's worth about 30 

5 years ago the £ was worth about 55 baht now it's worth about 37.5

 

I don't think those americans have anything like as much to worry about as the british 

 

 

I have no concerns... I am in for the long term.

 

 

A few Europeans are sweating.....

[beautifulthailand99]

13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

England, Scotland, Wales are counties.

 

The UK is a nation.

 

Though I have noticed Brexiteers frequently refer to England when discussing their hopes/fears for Brexit.

They are traitors to the Union I would have a few arrested and re-educated Thai style so they pay a real price (apart from their denuded baht) for their thick as mince folly. 

[bomber]

9 hours ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

I have no concerns... I am in for the long term.

 

 

A few Europeans are sweating.....

the brits must have sun sunstroke then,long term hahahhaha moggers says it could be 50 years,good luck,if i had grand children i would ask you to tell them how you got on,you wont see 50 again of €1.40 or $1.60  you folks get dafter by the day

[bomber]

13 hours ago, rosst said:

I am not affected by Brexit but Crazy Boris must scare the Euro mob and they may even be scared enough to renegotiate, I am hoping so. 

Prior to this they had no reason to because they had bluffed the UK parliament and May. 

Now they are not so sure as crazy Boris is likely to do anything, ha ha ha. 

The poll showing a gain in popularity for the conservatives should serve as a warning to Labor to start governing for the good of the country and keep the politics out of it.  If they indicated they would be interested in going along with Boris it could sway the Euro mob into coming to the party. 

Sadly it is affecting many of the expats in Thailand and that is regrettable, I hope the pain stops soon. 

mob ????  time for labour to start governing for the good of the country <deleted> have you been drinking? they are the opposition,and keep politics out of it hahahahaaha thats a good one,you sound like a cockney geezer who has just been to a footy match and had a skinful to drink and probably a scrap,get back in spoons

[Loiner]

Plenty of businesses giving plenty of warnings about the consequences, or are they all secret members of 'project fear'? 

So how many of you right on PC lefty liberal Corbyn loving Remainers actually heed the voice of businessmen? Only when it suits your rabid remaining rhetoric it appears.
Big business is an obvious and founder member of Project Fear. If they can see consequences coming they had better make preparations for them. If, like Remainers, they think the sky will fall in and there’s nothing they can do, then they should not be in control of business.