Britain ready and willing to do a Brexit deal - government source

[david555]

9 minutes ago, Paul52 said:

At some point the english will have to give back the 6 counties that they stole.  Of course, there will be huge resistance to a referendum, but the occupied 6 counties in Ulster will be the hardest hit by the economic vandalism of english no deal insanity, and a referendum will be legally unavoidable when the inevitable numbers demand it.

 

Within 5 - 10 years Scottish independence will follow.  Little england with all its nut job little englanders will be forgotten and all alone in the world.  No more important or significant than Mauritius or Sri Lanka, but very popular with money launderers.

("Within 5 - 10 years Scottish independence will follow")

 

I don't think the Scots shall have 5/10 years patience...

[Handsome Gardener]

16 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

How will you control your borders then?

Sent from my SM-G975F using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

Stop asking difficult questions ????

[AgMech Cowboy]

17 hours ago, fishtank said:

They have already negotiated a deal that the UK side agreed to.

Only Mrs. May and her negotiators, the UK parliament flat out rejected it.  That's not an agreement to the negotiated deal. 

[AgMech Cowboy]

41 minutes ago, Grusa said:

The vast majority of Brits don't give a damn about Ireland, North or South, and would prefer to see the whole troublesome island cast adrift in the Atlantic, and sunk.

And, it would be good idea to fill it up with all the radicalised fanatics of all persuasions before cutting the moorings.

I laughed at your comment, but I care a lot about the Irish. It's a fantastic place with really good people.  Maybe they would consider becoming the 51st state.  I think the USA would take the whole lot in a heartbeat. ????

[Thingamabob]

17 hours ago, fishtank said:

They have already negotiated a deal that the UK side agreed to.

...but never signed.

[Thingamabob]

45 minutes ago, david555 said:

("Within 5 - 10 years Scottish independence will follow")

 

I don't think the Scots shall have 5/10 years patience...

I wish they would leave right now. Awful bunch, and cost the earth to look after. Just go away.

[AgMech Cowboy]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

After days of horse trading resulted in a classic German/French stitch up in the darkened, grubby, smoke filled back rooms of Brussels during which they ensured their chosen individual (an easily manipulated puppet) was the only candidate for the position

I'm sure their was a "No Smoking" sign. ????

Edited August 7, 2019 by AgMech Cowboy

[Laughing Gravy]

1 hour ago, Paul52 said:

At some point the english will have to give back the 6 counties that they stole.

Which counties are those exactly.

[the guest]

UK is like an old record, repeating itself. Many Europeans are quite frankly sick of hearing about BREXIT. Just leave,  and be done with it! UK won't be missed. 

[AgMech Cowboy]

16 hours ago, david555 said:

UK too desperate to secure US trade deal, says Clinton's treasury secretary

Clinton and Obama are no longer in office. Why even talk to this guy?

[Thingamabob]

16 hours ago, david555 said:

(The Americans are already weigh up their chances to become in strongest negotiation position....)

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/aug/06/brexit-clinton-treasury-secretary-larry-summers-dismisses-desperate-uk-hopes-of-us-trade-deal

UK too desperate to secure US trade deal, says Clinton's treasury secretary

Britain in weak negotiating position despite Trump’s warm words, says Larry Summers

 

The former US treasury secretary Larry Summers has said he does not believe that a “desperate” UK would manage to secure a post-Brexit trade deal with Washington, as Dominic Raab, the new foreign secretary, heads to the US to scope out the potential for such an agreement.

 

Summers, who was a senior official under Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, said the UK was in a weak position when it came to negotiating with trade partners.

He told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme on Tuesday: “Britain has no leverage, Britain is desperate … it needs an agreement very soon. When you have a desperate partner, that’s when you strike the hardest bargain.”

Summers is an Obama/Clinton devotee. 'Nuff said.

[david555]

1 minute ago, Thingamabob said:

Summers is an Obama/Clinton devotee. 'Nuff said.

yes , but who knows if the democrats are in charge next time or not, polarization just as U.K....they are a factor anyway as divided powers 

[JulesMad]

It would be most ironic if the UK asks usa to invade

Not-So-Great-Anymore Britain...

[welovesundaysatspace]

17 minutes ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

Clinton and Obama are no longer in office. Why even talk to this guy?

Because any other guy is more competent than Donald Dumb and his administration?

[DoktorC]

15 hours ago, usviphotography said:

That the US still considers the UK an "ally" after all that has happened demonstrates the soft spot and sentimental feelings Trump has for Great Britain. He will offer them a fair deal, even though he probably shouldn't. Trump has shown a consistent track record in this regard. UK lucked out in getting somebody of Trump's generation and mindset in the WH at this particular moment. 

You don't really understand trump.  He is a con man, he sees brits as an easy mark.  He only cares about what you will do for him, but he could care less about you or your country.  Britain is hungry and will take the scraps that trump will throw to it.  

[Laughing Gravy]

5 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Because any other guy is more competent than Donald Dumb and his administration?

Yet he is the elected leader of the USA and will probably get a 2nd term. What will you do then. Spend a month in a crying room shaking your head and shouting the mantra of unbelievable, he is a buffoon, clown, stupid.

[sawadee1947]

17 hours ago, Loiner said:

We’re open to a deal. Not a Surrender Treaty to become a vassal state of the Federal States of Europe.

Oh Lord, let it rain brains onto this little island...... ????????????

[flossie35]

17 hours ago, Loiner said:

We’re open to a deal. Not a Surrender Treaty to become a vassal state of the Federal States of Europe.

Rubbish. We've been members for 40+ years - and we still are - without being a vassal state. And there is no "Federal States of Europe". And how are we "open to a deal" when that oaf BJ has laid down conditions that make negotiations impossible? He just wants to be able to blame the EU for not keeping his undeliverable promise about negotiations. Wait and see who he blames for failing to achieve his other undeliverables.

[puck2]

16 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

they were always going to fight a rear guard action as they cant stand the loss of payments to keep their gravey train on the rails but the buffers are on their way causing their collapse just like the 3rd reich merkel and the 4th reich will collapse

Vice versa - .....

 

 

("I'm  nearly there")

He doesn't want to avoid the (reality) crash !!!

Edited August 7, 2019 by puck2

[Loiner]

Rubbish. We've been members for 40+ years - and we still are - without being a vassal state. And there is no "Federal States of Europe". And how are we "open to a deal" when that oaf BJ has laid down conditions that make negotiations impossible? He just wants to be able to blame the EU for not keeping his undeliverable promise about negotiations. Wait and see who he blames for failing to achieve his other undeliverables.

Rubbish. We’ve been a member of the EU that we are now Leaving. Over those 40+ years we’ve seen it develop into a political institution with designs on statehood, which we want out of. If we had agreed the Merkel/May Surrender Treaty we would become a vassal state in the “Federal States of Europe”, into which the EU will further develop.
It’s about the future, which would be worse than the past for UK in the EU. So long as Boris gets us out without that trick ‘deal’ and no Political Declaration, then all will be well with the UK. No blame to be made.

[Percy P]

20 hours ago, fishtank said:

They have already negotiated a deal that the UK side agreed to.

Ex Prime Minister agreed to not Parliament. Which was rejected three time by them but still the EX PM still wouldn't except it. She was a remainer.

Edited August 7, 2019 by Percy P

[MRToMRT]

20 hours ago, fishtank said:

They have already negotiated a deal that the UK side agreed to.

That is sadly dead in the water because Parliament rejected it 3 times.

[7by7]

3 hours ago, Grusa said:

The vast majority of Brits don't give a damn about Ireland, North or South, and would prefer to see the whole troublesome island cast adrift in the Atlantic, and sunk.

And, it would be good idea to fill it up with all the radicalised fanatics of all persuasions before cutting the moorings.

 The whole reason for the atrocities carried out by Republican terrorists, both in NI and GB, was to make the British public so fed up with them that we ignored the democratic rights of the population of Northern Ireland.

 

Seems to have worked with you.

[7by7]

1 hour ago, Loiner said:

<snip>

So long as Boris gets us out without that trick ‘deal’ and no Political Declaration, then all will be well with the UK. No blame to be made.

 

Except he wont.

 

His aim is to do a deal with the EU; a deal which in all important parts will be identical to May's deal; a few tweaks here, a few word changes there.

 

He can then loudly proclaim how he has rescued the UK from the calamity of no deal; which was his aim all along and why he withdrew from the leadership contest after Cameron resigned.

 

He will be able to achieve this because Rees-Mogg with his ERG and other Tories who put personal ambition ahead of the country will no longer block the deal and so, even with his slim majority, Boris will be able to get it through Parliament.

[transam]

1 minute ago, 7by7 said:

 

Except he wont.

 

His aim is to do a deal with the EU; a deal which in all important parts will be identical to May's deal; a few tweaks here, a few word changes there.

 

He can then loudly proclaim how he has rescued the UK from the calamity of no deal; which was his aim all along and why he withdrew from the leadership contest after Cameron resigned.

 

He will be able to achieve this because Rees-Mogg with his ERG and other Tories who put personal ambition ahead of the country will no longer block the deal and so, even with his slim majority, Boris will be able to get it through Parliament.

Do you have a link for that lot...?

[dunroaming]

Every day there is a different report from some department or organisation and they are all waffle.  Parliament is on holiday and absolutely nothing will happen or be decided until they sit again in early September.  In the meantime the media will grab hold of any bar room snippets, exaggerate them and use them to fill their pages.

[puipuitom]

8 hours ago, JonnyF said:

The European electorate given the opportunity to vote on anything meaningful? ???? I think you're massively overestimating the levels of democracy in the EU.

 

Von Der Leyen will decide. She was 'elected' after days of horse trading resulted in a classic German/French stitch up in the darkened, grubby, smoke filled back rooms of Brussels during which they ensured their chosen individual (an easily manipulated puppet) was the only candidate for the position. This is democracy, EU style.

Why I see continuously close to ZERO knowledge about the EU institutions at British ?

 

Ursula is the president of the EU Commission, a kind of "ministers" with one Commissioner of each EU member state. They ONLY have to execute what is concluded in the EU Council ( existing of the heads of government of the EU member states) and to come with advises to the came Council.

The president is elected by the members of this EU council, with the EU Parliament to have a veto right. not more, not less, whatever the tree main parties there tried to tell all before that election.

 

Bye-the-way: what are the powers the totally unelected but appointed members of the House of Lords have ?

[Grusa]

3 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 The whole reason for the atrocities carried out by Republican terrorists, both in NI and GB, was to make the British public so fed up with them that we ignored the democratic rights of the population of Northern Ireland.

 

Seems to have worked with you.

Sure did. A plague on both their houses.

[Loiner]

 
Except he wont.
 
His aim is to do a deal with the EU; a deal which in all important parts will be identical to May's deal; a few tweaks here, a few word changes there.
 
He can then loudly proclaim how he has rescued the UK from the calamity of no deal; which was his aim all along and why he withdrew from the leadership contest after Cameron resigned.
 
He will be able to achieve this because Rees-Mogg with his ERG and other Tories who put personal ambition ahead of the country will no longer block the deal and so, even with his slim majority, Boris will be able to get it through Parliament.

Except he won’t act as you think. He can’t, because the whole of Parliament would have to pass the tweaked agreement they have already kicked out three times.
Even the Remainer MPs agreed that was better No Deal. If it hasn’t changed the legal opinion of the Attorney General’s office won’t have changed either.

[7by7]

23 hours ago, transam said:

Do you have a link for that lot...?

 As it's my opinion; no.

 

19 hours ago, Loiner said:

Except he won’t act as you think. He can’t, because the whole of Parliament would have to pass the tweaked agreement they have already kicked out three times.
Even the Remainer MPs agreed that was better No Deal. If it hasn’t changed the legal opinion of the Attorney General’s office won’t have changed either.

Wait and see.

 

Of course, I realise that to you Brexiteers the unsubstantiated opinion of a Remainer is worthless; unlike your attitude to the unsubstantiated opinions of Brexiteers which you treat as Holy Writ!