Is the closure of your favorite bar or restaurant imminent?

[polpott]

Currently staying in the Areca Lodge. Used to be the mainstay of American tourists but more recently noisy and badly behaved Indians.

 

Small number of guests now, 80% Thai. Breakfast used to be good, now same as a 2 star buffet breakfast in an Issan hotel. mostly Thai food and meager and badly cooked Western food. How anyone can burn a fried egg on one side and leave it raw on the other is beyond me. 2nd and best pool closed. Hopefully farang tourists don't return anytime soon as they'll have a shock as to what their favourite haunts have turned into.

[pattayadude]

14 minutes ago, polpott said:

Currently staying in the Areca Lodge. Used to be the mainstay of American tourists but more recently noisy and badly behaved Indians.

 

Small number of guests now, 80% Thai. Breakfast used to be good, now same as a 2 star buffet breakfast in an Issan hotel. mostly Thai food and meager and badly cooked Western food. How anyone can burn a fried egg on one side and leave it raw on the other is beyond me. 2nd and best pool closed. Hopefully farang tourists don't return anytime soon as they'll have a shock as to what their favourite haunts have turned into.

Don't get me wrong.I am not judging you.I am just curious. Why would anyone insist on traveling in this environment and stay at cheesy hotels with bad food and mostly Indian men as you stated? what is there to travel that people can't resist even though cities are only maybe 10% fun compare to how it was before, having to wear a mask almost anywhere therefore impossible to see people's faces, let alone the danger aspect of traveling

[polpott]

1 hour ago, pattayadude said:

Don't get me wrong.I am not judging you.I am just curious. Why would anyone insist on traveling in this environment and stay at cheesy hotels with bad food and mostly Indian men as you stated? what is there to travel that people can't resist even though cities are only maybe 10% fun compare to how it was before, having to wear a mask almost anywhere therefor e impossible to see people's faces, let alone the danger aspect of traveling

its only 15 minutes from my house, hardly travelling. Before covid the food was great. I assumed (correctly) that there would be no Indian guests as currently no Indian tourists. In the last 24 hours, the only time I wore a mask was when checking in at reception. Had a great time last night around Soi Buakhao and Treetown. Masks are pretty much done in Pattaya.

 

The thrust of my post was that a formerly iconic and ferang centric hotel has morphed into a totally Thai centric hotel and may have problems when Western tourists start to trickle back in.

[champers]

2 hours ago, polpott said:

its only 15 minutes from my house, hardly travelling. Before covid the food was great. I assumed (correctly) that there would be no Indian guests as currently no Indian tourists. In the last 24 hours, the only time I wore a mask was when checking in at reception. Had a great time last night around Soi Buakhao and Treetown. Masks are pretty much done in Pattaya.

 

The thrust of my post was that a formerly iconic and ferang centric hotel has morphed into a totally Thai centric hotel and may have problems when Western tourists start to trickle back in.

A lot of the Thais staying in hotels in Pattaya would normally take their holidays overseas. When Covid ends they will resume their trips abroad and overseas tourists to Thailand will occupy the rooms as before.

[kingofthemountain]

2 hours ago, polpott said:

The thrust of my post was that a formerly iconic and ferang centric hotel has morphed into a totally Thai centric hotel and may have problems when Western tourists start to trickle back in.

The point is probably western tourists wouldn't be back before 1 or 2 years

if ever (At least in the same numbers as before covid)

then i can understand the temptation for the hotel to cater to the locals if they want survive

[pattayadude]

2 hours ago, kingofthemountain said:

I sincerely hope they can feel the pinch very hard now

the owners of these establishments are pretty wealthy..I doubt if they can feel anything  in their 6 bedroom mansions in a gated community

[onthedarkside]

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[champers]

16 hours ago, polpott said:

Currently staying in the Areca Lodge. Used to be the mainstay of American tourists but more recently noisy and badly behaved Indians.

 

Small number of guests now, 80% Thai. Breakfast used to be good, now same as a 2 star buffet breakfast in an Issan hotel. mostly Thai food and meager and badly cooked Western food. How anyone can burn a fried egg on one side and leave it raw on the other is beyond me. 2nd and best pool closed. Hopefully farang tourists don't return anytime soon as they'll have a shock as to what their favourite haunts have turned into.

I would be changing hotel. Plenty of good options at knockdown prices.

[jacko45k]

19 hours ago, polpott said:

its only 15 minutes from my house, hardly travelling. Before covid the food was great. I assumed (correctly) that there would be no Indian guests as currently no Indian tourists. In the last 24 hours, the only time I wore a mask was when checking in at reception. Had a great time last night around Soi Buakhao and Treetown. Masks are pretty much done in Pattaya.

 

The thrust of my post was that a formerly iconic and ferang centric hotel has morphed into a totally Thai centric hotel and may have problems when Western tourists start to trickle back in.

I have frequently used the Areca during the last several months. It was never a mainstay of American tourists.....never saw an Indian recently. Pre Covid they were an issue at many places, I scrubbed The Mercure off my list because of that... Indian and Chinese groups were not the best fellow guests.  These  days there aren't any, and the Areca is fine. The breakfast was rubbish and included but as the place is super cheap it will be.... they have the buffet out for this weekend as it is a big Thai holiday. Plenty of better places around to go eat, and central to LK Metro and Buakhao nightlife... it was really a sex tourists place and has multiple large pools and 3 buildings of rooms. 

[polpott]

6 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I have frequently used the Areca during the last several months. It was never a mainstay of American tourists.....never saw an Indian recently. Pre Covid they were an issue at many places, I scrubbed The Mercure off my list because of that... Indian and Chinese groups were not the best fellow guests.  These  days there aren't any, and the Areca is fine. The breakfast was rubbish and included but as the place is super cheap it will be.... they have the buffet out for this weekend as it is a big Thai holiday. Plenty of better places around to go eat, and central to LK Metro and Buakhao nightlife... it was really a sex tourists place and has multiple large pools and 3 buildings of rooms. 

Down to one pool and no sex tourists. Breakfast was very good a couple of years ago.

[polpott]

11 hours ago, champers said:

I would be changing hotel. Plenty of good options at knockdown prices.

Easier said than done. How do you know in advance whether a hotel is ferang centric or Thai centric?

[champers]

28 minutes ago, polpott said:

Easier said than done. How do you know in advance whether a hotel is ferang centric or Thai centric?

Maybe look at recent reviews online. 

[polpott]

40 minutes ago, champers said:

Maybe look at recent reviews online. 

Admittedly I didn't look at reviews before booking as I know the hotel well and has undergone an extensive makeover since I was last there. However, had a look just now, very few reviews since Covid and only one mentioned poor breakfast and lack of pools.

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, champers said:

Maybe look at recent reviews online. 

Put a bad review online and risk arrest over here

[Ohyesuare]

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

Put a bad review online and risk arrest over here

 

I doubt any business will be doing that for a long time after all the fallout and the risk of getting that special notice on your trip advisor page.

[mxer90]

Climax bar on the corner of soi buakhao and LK (opposite Sugar Sugar agogo) may well be closing next week. Live band, lots of out door seating, similar to Billabong.

 

Maybe a sign that even baukhao and LK with quite a lot of expat traffic doesn't seem to be viable. LK metro as been very quiet over the past couple weeks, especially on week days.

 

The only really busy bar around that area now is Zero bar but as I think as been mentioned we know why......40 baht a beer all night.

 

[Kadilo]

42 minutes ago, mxer90 said:

 

 

The only really busy bar around that area now is Zero bar but as I think as been mentioned we know why......40 baht a beer all night.

 

Cheap Charlie heaven. One 40 baht beer and 4 straws. 

[champers]

52 minutes ago, mxer90 said:

Climax bar on the corner of soi buakhao and LK (opposite Sugar Sugar agogo) may well be closing next week. Live band, lots of out door seating, similar to Billabong.

 

Maybe a sign that even baukhao and LK with quite a lot of expat traffic doesn't seem to be viable. LK metro as been very quiet over the past couple weeks, especially on week days.

 

The only really busy bar around that area now is Zero bar but as I think as been mentioned we know why......40 baht a beer all night.

 

Was down there last week and Honey Bar looked pretty busy. Had a beer in Climax Bar and was one of 2 customers. 

Hungry Hippo was doing big Leos for 59. Many Americans in there bemoaning the imminent departure of Trump. Conspiracy theories were abundant.

[chrisandsu]

49 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

Cheap Charlie heaven. One 40 baht beer and 4 straws. 

So they should spend 140 baht for the same beer just so they can impress a prostitute ? 

[jacko45k]

18 hours ago, polpott said:

Down to one pool and no sex tourists. Breakfast was very good a couple of years ago.

Yes one pool was closed off.... although your latter statement may not be completely true. I was the one shamefacedly at breakfast as my overnight companion stumbled to the congee urn in her ridiculously high heels and short shorts! Quite the bargain the Areca now.

[polpott]

2 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

Yes one pool was closed off.... although your latter statement may not be completely true. I was the one shamefacedly at breakfast as my overnight companion stumbled to the congee urn in her ridiculously high heels and short shorts! Quite the bargain the Areca now.

true, I was the one shamefacedly at breakfast with the little spinner with the DD rack. 555

[redwood1]

8 hours ago, mxer90 said:

 

 

The only really busy bar around that area now is Zero bar but as I think as been mentioned we know why......40 baht a beer all night.

 

 

Cheap charlies can lead the high-life on Soi Bukow......

 

Start your night by...

Taking a baht bus for 10 baht or better yet walk for free to get to the LK metro area..

Scope the area out for balloons and the smell of roasting pig.....If balloons can not be found settle on the nightly special at Hungry Hippo for 79 baht for your nightly feed...

Meetup your mates at Zero bar for a few rounds of 40 baht beers...

Next move the party to one of the GoGo bars, preferably the one with the 69 baht draft beer but if its a unlucky night you might have to pay as much as 79 baht.....

Make that draft beer last for a looooog time as you enjoy the nightly entertainment...

If you see a girl dancing you like give her a 20 baht tip...But make sure your roaming hands get their full money's worth......( Hey the girl is now 20 baht richer)

 

Then its back to Zero bar for a 40 baht nightcap before heading home....... 

[scubascuba3]

14 minutes ago, redwood1 said:

 

Cheap charlies can lead the high-life on Soi Bukow......

 

Start your night by...

Taking a baht bus for 10 baht or better yet walk for free to get to the LK metro area..

Scope the area out for balloons and the smell of roasting pig.....If balloons can not be found settle on the nightly special at Hungry Hippo for 79 baht for your nightly feed...

Meetup your mates at Zero bar for a few rounds of 40 baht beers...

Next move the party to one of the GoGo bars, preferably the one with the draft 69 baht draft beer but if its a unlucky night you might have to pay as much as 79 baht.....

Make that draft beer last for a looooog time as you enjoy the nightly entertainment...

If you see a girl dancing you like give her a 20 baht tip...But make sure your roaming hands get their full money worth......( Hey the girl is now 20 baht richer)

 

Then its back to Zero bar for a 40 baht nightcap before heading home....... 

You seem to know all the cheap Charlie places to go and what to do. 

 

I don't go to those bars but why pay 100+ baht when you can pay 40? some bars may be worth it but most are samey 

[jacko45k]

6 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

You seem to know all the cheap Charlie places to go and what to do. 

 

I don't go to those bars but why pay 100+ baht when you can pay 40? some bars may be worth it but most are samey 

Although my reality is stumbling out of Kink substantially the worse off financially. 

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

Although my reality is stumbling out of Kink substantially the worse off financially. 

I don't get why people go to LK Metro when Walking St agogos are much better

[jor]

9 hours ago, Kadilo said:

Cheap Charlie heaven. One 40 baht beer and 4 straws. 

 

What a stupid comment.  Have you been into this bar and seen this happen?

 

I go to this bar (when I can get a seat) not for the cheap beer but because it has a good band who play the music that old falangs like.  There is a fun vibe and I can sit and enjoy the music and the atmosphere.  The waitresses are not stunners but are friendly and contribute to the fun.

 

With a tip for the band I probably spend more than at any other beer bar but I've had a good time so it doesn't matter.

 

Sorry to thread**** but it was necessary to respond to the inane quote above.

[jacko45k]

2 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

I don't get why people go to LK Metro when Walking St agogos are much better

I used to feel that way, very much so. But now we have much less choice there, and some places that are open are  not worthwhile. Clinical Pinups has great lookers, Dollhouse is good....Windmill is hit and miss with me. Doubt I could fill an evening on WS. Whereas upstairs in Kinks is exceptional, and there are the GCs and cheap beer-bars for variety in the vicinity of LK Metro. The old reason for my avoiding LK has gone, that of just too many guys acting 'laddish'....

LK has also adapted with some price cutting here and there..... can that be said of Walking St?

 

[dreaming]

4 hours ago, redwood1 said:

 

Cheap charlies can lead the high-life on Soi Bukow......

 

Start your night by...

Taking a baht bus for 10 baht or better yet walk for free to get to the LK metro area..

Scope the area out for balloons and the smell of roasting pig.....If balloons can not be found settle on the nightly special at Hungry Hippo for 79 baht for your nightly feed...

Meetup your mates at Zero bar for a few rounds of 40 baht beers...

Next move the party to one of the GoGo bars, preferably the one with the 69 baht draft beer but if its a unlucky night you might have to pay as much as 79 baht.....

Make that draft beer last for a looooog time as you enjoy the nightly entertainment...

If you see a girl dancing you like give her a 20 baht tip...But make sure your roaming hands get their full money's worth......( Hey the girl is now 20 baht richer)

 

Then its back to Zero bar for a 40 baht nightcap before heading home....... 

At least they are spending money in the thai economy to hopefully keep some of these places afloat until us tourists can come back

 

What are you exactly doing with your money?

[CharlieH]

Off topic removed, the topic is Bars or Restaurants NOT Massage parlors !