mommysboy Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 15 minutes ago, from the home of CC said: https://www.sciencealert.com/vaping-may-be-complicit-in-almost-100-mystery-lung-illnesses-currently-being-investigated Don't believe these Thai statements however there is something up with this product, just happy I never used it for it doesn't appear to be as safe as everyone says.. The only thing that's up is the number of unwarranted scare stories based on ignorance, which has made you and many others believe there is 'something up'. Possibly you also come from the US where there there is a witch hunt aimed at vaping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PETERTHEEATER Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 An article in a local (Thai) newspaper reported, this morning, that there are 18,000 Thai Buddhists monks under medical treatment for smoking related health issues and that there is a push to discourage smoking amongst the ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, PETERTHEEATER said: An article in a local (Thai) newspaper reported, this morning, that there are 18,000 Thai Buddhists monks under medical treatment for smoking related health issues and that there is a push to discourage smoking amongst the ranks. How does this relate to vaping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, mommysboy said: The only thing that's up is the number of unwarranted scare stories based on ignorance, which has made you and many others believe there is 'something up'. Possibly you also come from the US where there there is a witch hunt aimed at vaping. Oddly enough, that campaign by the Truth Initiative, formerly American Legacy Foundation, is funded by...... big tobacco, as part of the settlement from a lawsuit by 47 US States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCross Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 and yet i can happily walk into a pharmacy and buy as much nicotine gum as i want.. or into a 7/11 and buy all the cigarettes i want.. so why e-cigarettes??! maybe its because they actually work in stopping smoking cigarettes? wake me up when they ban NICOTINE full stop otherwise i'm just gonna file all these "warnings" under B&LLSH*T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedemon Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Ah yes, the world renowned Dr Khajorn Kaewjarat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Wonder why Thai experts are so polar opposite in their thinking to the rest of the world to much som tam fish paste and chilli's frying their pea I suppose???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred white Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 hours ago, PatOngo said: Driving a vehicle, riding a motor cycle or travelling in a minivan can cause death, mutilation and permanent disability too! You beat me to it my thoughts exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly07 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Clearly the Government and tobacco industry do not want a reduction in Income and Revenue caused by the reduction in the addiction to the carcinogens (not nicotine!) in cigarettes through vaping and wish to perpetuate the addiction to cigarettes and the commensurate appalling death rate associated with it. Banning cigarettes completely would save 70000 lives a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Surely there were some studies done here in Thailand for the good doctor to make such a statement. Or is he the same kind of doctor as the Vets at import station, who looks at Siamese cat and asks what breed is the cat or looks at pure bred bullmastiff but because papers say labrador he stamps her in as a labrador Or could be one of those really skilled doctors who apply band aide to fix broken fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said: Wonder why Thai experts are so polar opposite in their thinking to the rest of the world to much som tam fish paste and chilli's frying their pea I suppose???? Somtam and Para also causes cancer according to local experts, yet they in no rush to ban it ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 58 minutes ago, mommysboy said: How does this relate to vaping? If they could legally vape than 18000 would not be sick or needed any treatment ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasThBKK Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 https://www.leafly.com/news/health/tainted-vape-carts-sicken-7-california-safety-report-leafly Once again blackmarket thc cartridges, no surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Considering Thailand's low average IQ, I wouldn't worry too much about brain damage. Cancer, on the other hand, is obviously a real concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred white Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, BestB said: Surely there were some studies done here in Thailand for the good doctor to make such a statement. Or is he the same kind of doctor as the Vets at import station, who looks at Siamese cat and asks what breed is the cat or looks at pure bred bullmastiff but because papers say labrador he stamps her in as a labrador Or could be one of those really skilled doctors who apply band aide to fix broken fingers I actually like my village Dr she checks my blood pressure for free and the other day I was looking for a specialist she took the time to find me on called them got me their office hours directions and put the link on my phone no charge and my Thai is almost non existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 6 hours ago, webfact said: E-cigarettes cause brain damage That explains it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Fred white said: I actually like my village Dr she checks my blood pressure for free and the other day I was looking for a specialist she took the time to find me on called them got me their office hours directions and put the link on my phone no charge and my Thai is almost non existent. Imagine if they could use google maps that says next left or next right? That would be a real medical breakthrough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Second hand vaping, also known as inhaling water vapor. Yes, ban it. Banbanbanbanbanbanbanbanbanbanbanbanbanbanban. Samarn must be giggling at this STD office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil1975 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Tobacco mafia want vaping banned, it is that simple. Meanwhile in the real world: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/vaping-quit-smoking-cigarettes-health-nhs-lung-damage-cancer-tobacco-a8701506.html Vaping is 95% safer than smoking cigs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred white Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, BestB said: Imagine if they could use google maps that says next left or next right? That would be a real medical breakthrough Actually that's what she did the name of the clinic was in Thai so she typed it into Google maps on my phone for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just now, Fred white said: Actually that's what she did the name of the clinic was in Thai so she typed it into Google maps on my phone for me There you go , medical breakthrough ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacherofwoe Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 7 hours ago, webfact said: E-cigarettes cause brain damage and cancer, reports Thai media So does EMF, but no one's reporting on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smee Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Absolute unadulterated rubbish, totally devoid of any truth or facts. For a start, Nicotine does NOT cause cancer. The Nicotine in an ecig is pharmsceutical grade nic, exactly the same priducymt from the same factories as used in "medical" patches, sprays, and gums, which are available over the counter with no sales restrictions in place. Even WHO has admitted its OK to use these "medical" products over a lifetime if the alternative is smoking as there is no known signuficant long term health consequences from their use over a lifetime. And note that pharma nic patch contains 30 times the amount of Nicotine than one cigarette stick. The tar and chemicals in cigarettes kill smokers. Not one person has ever died for inhaling vape from an ecig. Ever. Ecigs save lives. Tax them and let smokers have a life-saving choice <deleted>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedemon Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 hours ago, BestB said: Surely there were some studies done here in Thailand for the good doctor to make such a statement. Or is he the same kind of doctor as the Vets at import station, who looks at Siamese cat and asks what breed is the cat or looks at pure bred bullmastiff but because papers say labrador he stamps her in as a labrador Or could be one of those really skilled doctors who apply band aide to fix broken fingers There are plenty of excellent doctors in Thailand. None of them are civil servants though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred white Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, Smee said: Absolute unadulterated rubbish, totally devoid of any truth or facts. For a start, Nicotine does NOT cause cancer. The Nicotine in an ecig is pharmsceutical grade nic, exactly the same priducymt from the same factories as used in "medical" patches, sprays, and gums, which are available over the counter with no sales restrictions in place. Even WHO has admitted its OK to use these "medical" products over a lifetime if the alternative is smoking as there is no known signuficant long term health consequences from their use over a lifetime. And note that pharma nic patch contains 30 times the amount of Nicotine than one cigarette stick. The tar and chemicals in cigarettes kill smokers. Not one person has ever died for inhaling vape from an ecig. Ever. Ecigs save lives. Tax them and let smokers have a life-saving choice <deleted>. The only thing I've seen on e cigs is the vapor could cause pneumonia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oww Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Bet you some really 'important' Thai runs this operation... http://www.thaivapeshop.com ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 52 minutes ago, thedemon said: There are plenty of excellent doctors in Thailand. None of them are civil servants though. So you saying this doctor is excellent or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terek Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 such a nonsense... send this minister and doctor to real world for some education ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisperone Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I am all for banning these things. I do not want to breathe in someone else's vaping chemicals. There is no shortage of information out there on the dangers of these. People ending up in coma, lung damage, illness...not to mention batteries blowing up in smokers face and disfiguring them. Doesn't take much common sense to imagine what the long term effects of inhaling these chemical concoctions will be. This is something Thailand has gotten right in banning them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyboy2018 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 9 hours ago, ThomasThBKK said: Rubbish, like everything here. If only they would use this kind of logic to ban burning of fields and forrests and smoking tobacco? https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/08/16/mystery-lung-illness-linked-vaping-health-officials-investigating-nearly-possible-cases/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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