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Opponents of 'no-deal' Brexit defeat PM Johnson, who promises an election

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  • 21 MP's to lose the whip...   So even with the DUP the Tories are now 22 MP's short of a Majority,   Only Boris could inflict so much damage to the Tory party.???? 

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7 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

 

Demographics dear Boy! If we counted the exact same votes from 2016 today and eliminated the dead, the vote would be Remain. 

 

Really dear boy,   the one you portrayed a year or so ago,the dead one,you were wrong about that too,how about this one?not often you are right,but you are wrong again,dear boy

 

Surely its time labour booted out whispering Jeremey having been made to look so inept by 3 PM's in a row he is a big part of why this has all gone wrong there is no effective opposition other than a cobblers caldron now . Who you would vote for now is as difficult as choosing who's the best general here????

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1 minute ago, vogie said:

Soon to be out of work heroes, now that's how democracy works.

Maybe in work longer than you think. No need to rush an election, have a vote of no confidence in Johnson first and replace him with one of the rebels.

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1 minute ago, sammieuk1 said:

Surely its time labour booted out whispering Jeremey having been made to look so inept by 3 PM's in a row he is a big part of why this has all gone wrong there is no effective opposition other than a cobblers caldron now . Who you would vote for now is as difficult as choosing who's the best general here????

Dianne Abbott

Wonder what would happen if one of the Lords had a 'suspected' heart attack whilst debating.
Surely they would call a recess for the day out of respect?

 

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Just now, bannork said:

Maybe in work longer than you think. No need to rush an election, have a vote of no confidence in Johnson first and replace him with one of the rebels.

If Corbyn can command confidence from his loyal gulag, Boris doesn't have any worries, he is still the best liked leaders of all the political parties.

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16 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

 

Demographics dear Boy! If we counted the exact same votes from 2016 today and eliminated the dead, the vote would be Remain. 

 

Amazing how you know the minds of the whole of the UK.

What a gift you have

I bet you win the lottery every week too

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16 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

The constitution is based on a consent to rule by the people.

The people spoke in 2016 and they must be heard.

 

Plenty on here who have spent too much time in Thailand where constitutions are ripped up on a regular basis.

 

Remainers are traitors, pure and simple

I wouldn't say that "remainers" are traitors, they are perfectly entitled to their point of view, and may argue it. As they did in the 2016 referendum (and lost), as they did in the 2017 general election (and lost), as they could in the debates on the European Union Withdrawal Act (and lost - although funnily enough many who voted for that act are now attempting to frustrate it); and as they could if there is to be a fresh general election, which would be on the 14th of October - before we are due to leave (which it now appears they intend to block - because the chances are that they will lose that too).

 

They are not traitors, but have absolute contempt for the democratic process! And they are aware that the reaction to their campaign in this general election may well be "We told you once, we told you twice, and now we are telling you again!"

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2 minutes ago, zorrow424 said:

Dianne Abbott

Unfortunately she only has 10 fingers and cant remember how many toes????

2 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

Wonder what would happen if one of the Lords had a 'suspected' heart attack whilst debating.
Surely they would call a recess for the day out of respect?

 

It won't happen, parliament has passed legislation making it illegal for anyone to die there.

 

"A ban on people dying in the Houses of Parliament has been named the most absurd legislation in Britain."

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1568474/Dont-die-in-parliament-its-the-law.html

1 minute ago, vogie said:

It won't happen, parliament has passed legislation making it illegal for anyone to die there.

 

"A ban on people dying in the Houses of Parliament has been named the most absurd legislation in Britain."

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1568474/Dont-die-in-parliament-its-the-law.html

And they wonder why they lost their empire? ????

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15 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

Not so fast. There are 90 amendments that will each take an hour to deal with ++ 

Filly buster them to death I say!

 

Boris technically can advise the Queen to withhold the Royal ascent too.

That's entering dangerous territories though

No doubt those opposed to giving the people a say on any final deal/no deal/don't leave will try to do as you say.

 

Let's face it, they've already tried to shut down parliament early to avoid having to face their critics...look how well that turned out, eh.

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51 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Wonder how much I've made today for my contribution ????

 

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Loved it when Caroline Lucas tore a strip of him, in parliament, for slonking on the benches like the big tart he is.

 

Old Etonian arrogance at it's finest.

 

 

41 minutes ago, zorrow424 said:

Is that right?  links?

don't have them, I read it in Bloomberg and Spiegel online a couple of days ago

3 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

No doubt those opposed to giving the people a say on any final deal/no deal/don't leave will try to do as you say.

 

Let's face it, they've already tried to shut down parliament early to avoid having to face their critics...look how well that turned out, eh.

Could have shut it down for longer if he had wanted to

Just now, DannyCarlton said:

 

Loved it when Caroline Lucas tore a strip of him, in parliament, for slonking on the benches like the big tart he is.

slonking after bonking, he wants a couple more kids to form a football team

2 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

 

Loved it when Caroline Lucas tore a strip of him, in parliament, for slonking on the benches like the big tart he is.

He was just showing his disdain to that repugnant creature Letwin

5 minutes ago, JAG said:

I wouldn't say that "remainers" are traitors, they are perfectly entitled to their point of view, and may argue it. As they did in the 2016 referendum (and lost), as they did in the 2017 general election (and lost), as they could in the debates on the European Union Withdrawal Act (and lost - although funnily enough many who voted for that act are now attempting to frustrate it); and as they could if there is to be a fresh general election, which would be on the 14th of October - before we are due to leave (which it now appears they intend to block - because the chances are that they will lose that too).

 

They are not traitors, but have absolute contempt for the democratic process! And they are aware that the reaction to their campaign in this general election may well be "We told you once, we told you twice, and now we are telling you again!"

Some 1922 committee geezer cant remember who said October 14th was a Jewish religious day and as they are very unlikely to vote JC the Tory's wont want to upset them obviously????

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There's only one way to sort this mess out. Have a referendum in which the options are:

a) leave with no deal if necessary

b) continue indefinitely to push for a deal.

 

Of course, remaining cannot be an option.

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19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

You mean, "engineer" a No Deal Brexit by getting a massive majority for a No Deal Brexit from the electorate? 

 

You wanted a vote, and now you're admitting you'd get hammered in a General Election by a Pro Leave party ????. I'd say your democratic mask is slipping, except it's already dropped to the floor.

 

Engineer by changing the date of the election or some other tom foolery. Everyone in parliament knows that Johnson cannot be trusted ... even his ex wife knows that! 

 

But bear in mind that Johnson has just alienated every Tory voter who would want to leave with a deal. The Lib Dems will take marginal seats off him in the South and he will be slaughtered in Scotland. He's been running around this last month campaigning whilst everyone else has been on holiday, throwing money around like a two week visitor to Pattaya. Now he has a little opposition he's crumbling, not looking like a winner, engaged in a "sham" negotiation with the EU, lying about his motives for closing down parliament ... when "no deal" is off the table he's electorally finished. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

No doubt those opposed to giving the people a say on any final deal/no deal/don't leave will try to do as you say.

 

Let's face it, they've already tried to shut down parliament early to avoid having to face their critics...look how well that turned out, eh.

No worries,just concentrate how far under the bus you get thrown after ND day

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4 minutes ago, JamesBlond said:

There's only one way to sort this mess out. Have a referendum in which the options are:

a) leave with no deal if necessary

b) continue indefinitely to push for a deal.

 

Of course, remaining cannot be an option.

 

And then you woke up!

 

 

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3 hours ago, MarineEquine said:

If there is a general election Labour will be annihilated. 

If there is... almost certain there will before Xmas, and yes, Labour will be licking it's wounds, but it will be the Tory Party that will be annihilated.

1 minute ago, zorrow424 said:

No worries,just concentrate how far under the bus you get thrown after ND day

“dreams are madness, my dear. It's things that happen in the waking world, while one is asleep, that one would be glad to know the meaning of.”


― Joseph Conrad, Victory

9 minutes ago, Sticky Wicket said:

Could have shut it down for longer if he had wanted to

Sure he could, sure he could.

 

LMAO

7 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

 

Loved it when Caroline Lucas tore a strip of him, in parliament, for slonking on the benches like the big tart he is.

 

Old Etonian arrogance at it's finest.

 

 

How do you spell apathy Boris is it one P or two ????

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35 minutes ago, Blue Muton said:

What constitution?

The result of the non-binding, advisory referendum has been heard.

Sticky Wicket, you seem confused by the question. You refered to "the constitution". I wanted clarification from you as to what or which constitution you are refering. Seems a simple enough question to me.

 

Or is it the terms of the referendum that has left you confused?

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       Boris is only trying to do what the Referendum called for, If the UK goes further down the pan, then at least we have a list of the TRAITORS to go for.

2 minutes ago, grumpy 4680 said:

If the UK goes further down the pan, then at least we have a list of the TRAITORS to go for.

They must be really scared now. 

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