Thailand's August foreign tourist arrivals up 5.6% year on year

[ujayujay]

????????????off course........

[hotchilli]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

BANGKOK (Reuters) - The number of foreign tourists arriving in Thailand rose 5.59% in August from a year earlier, with Chinese visitor numbers rebounding strongly, the tourism ministry said on Tuesday

Yet all the bars, restaurants clubs are saying it's dead ?

[BritManToo]

10 minutes ago, cmsally said:

Wow astonishing ! If they are that sure it can do better maybe they should manage it for themselves for a year or so. Also noticeable is that "Minor" is pushing for it to go through the Thai legal system.

The surveys stated are alarming for next year ............

A 20% increase in rooms, with a 20% decrease in occupation = 40% more rooms than required.

[wotsdermatter]

15 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Thailand's August foreign tourist arrivals up 5.6% year on year

That being said, it could be true but what is up 5.6% of?  Just read the stats from 2018, did have the new ones for 2019, up to August, but lost them.  Thailand was not in the top 10 for this year.

2018 statistics[edit]

Airports Council International's (January–December) preliminary figures are as follows.^[1]

Rank	City	Airport	Location	Code (IATA/ICAO)	Total passengers	Monthly rank change	% change
1.	Dubai	Dubai International Airport	Al Garhoud, Dubai, United Arab Emirates	DXB/OMDB	88,885,367		1.3%
2.	London	London Heathrow Airport	Hillingdon, Greater London, United Kingdom	LHR/EGLL	75,306,939		2.9%
3.	Hong Kong	Hong Kong International Airport	Chek Lap Kok, Islands, New Territories, Hong Kong	HKG/VHHH	74,360,976		2.6%
4.	Amsterdam	Amsterdam Airport Schiphol	Haarlemmermeer, North Holland, Netherlands	AMS/EHAM	70,956,258		3.7%
5.	Seoul	Seoul Incheon International Airport	Jung-gu, Incheon, South Korea	ICN/RKSI	67,676,147	2	10.0%
6.	Paris	Paris-Charles de Gaulle Airport	Roissy-en-France, Val d'Oise, Île-de-France, France	CDG/LFPG	66,383,494	1	4.2%
7.	Singapore	Singapore Changi Airport	Changi, East Region, Singapore	SIN/WSSS	64,890,000	1	5.4%
8.	Frankfurt	Frankfurt Airport	Flughafen, Frankfurt, Hesse, Germany	FRA/EDDF	61,774,663		8.1%
9.	Bangkok	Suvarnabhumi Airport	Racha Thewa, Bang Phli, Samut Prakan, Greater Bangkok, Thailand	BKK/VTBS	50,868,846		4.2%
10.	Istanbul	Atatürk International Airport	Yeşilköy, Bakırköy, Istanbul, Turkey	IST/LTBA	48,978,770	1	10.1%
11.	Taipei	Taoyuan International Airport	Dayuan, Taoyuan, Taiwan	TPE/RCTP	46,152,164	1	3.8%
12.	Kuala Lumpur	Kuala Lumpur International Airport	Sepang, Selangor, Malaysia	KUL/WMKK	43,531,741		2.8%
13.	London	London Gatwick Airport	Crawley, West Sussex, United Kingdom	LGW/EGKK	41,476,858		2.1%
14.	Madrid	Madrid-Barajas Airport	Madrid, Comunidad de Madrid, Spain	MAD/LEMD	41,857,125		8.8%
15.	Barcelona	Barcelona–El Prat Airport	El Prat de Llobregat, Barcelona, Catalonia, Spain	BCN/LEBL	36,545,787	2	6.2%
16.	Munich	Munich Airport	Oberding/Hallbergmoos/Marzling, Erding/Freising, Bavaria, Germany	MUC/EDDM	36,545,787		5.3%
17.	Tokyo	Narita International Airport	Narita, Chiba, Kantō, Honshū, Japan	NRT/RJAA	35,300,076	1	6.7%
18.	Doha	Hamad International Airport	Doha, Qatar	DOH/OTBD	34,495,078	3	2.2%
19.	New York City	John F. Kennedy International Airport	Queens, New York City, New York, United States	JFK/KJFK	33,485,078		2.8%
20.	Toronto	Toronto Pearson International Airport	Mississauga, Ontario, Canada	YYZ/CYYZ	31,610,348		6.7

 

If the Thai stats are different, then how can they be explained in comparison to these because these were not pulled out of a hot?  According to all I have read on this forum, the arrivals appear to be much higher than even the highest records worldwide, such as the contention that the medical services rank above such countries as France and Spain.  Is somebody "fixing things" by counting people entering the airports to say good bye or to greet their visitors/friends.  That alone would pump things way up.

'nuf sed.

[Saint Nick]

3 hours ago, bender92 said:

Where are they? Pattaya is pretty empty.

Maybe they are, where these numbers come from!?

A veeeeeery dark place!

[ToddinChonburi]

Lots of tour buses running around causing traffic problems

 

[Saint Nick]

Since I moved here, about 10 years ago, the numbers are always up!

Fun observation: when I came here first in 1997, you almost couldn't move through Patpong Nightmarked- you WERE moved, by the pushing crowd!

2019: you can take your girlfriend by the hand and skip through the market and not even touch anybody!

So: reality and numbers somehow don't add up!

[Jimbo2014]

I think there is a new band of tourists on the way!  

 

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[Millcx]

17 hours ago, petermik said:

Are we really supposed to believe this............

It does make me giggle that they count the  passengers that are getting on another flight to leave Thailand ... It’s getting worse ... Places are dying on their feet “;0)

[ThaiBunny]

5 minutes ago, Millcx said:

It does make me giggle that they count the  passengers that are getting on another flight to leave Thailand

How do you know this?

[madmen]

17 hours ago, petermik said:

Are we really supposed to believe this............

When TAT say figures are down they are 100% correct

When they are up they are lying mongrel dogs ☺☺☺☺

[natway09]

The figures on arrivals may be up but spend nothing (except 7/11 maybe) 

The breakfast buffets at the hotels which are included in the packages look like

pigs at troughs

40 million a year ,,, that is a lot of sewerage & rubbish to clear

[DrPhibes]

16 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said:

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

So says Samuel Clemens

[peter14]

Chinese and Indian..  yeah they not foreigners.. they asian( they are separated). the stat must come from the new fake news center... 

[elliss]

16 hours ago, BigBadGeordie said:

There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

 

PS , not forgetting Thai lies .

 

 

 

[Polaky]

Will check out the immigration q at suvarnahumi tomorrow and report back to see if there is any evidence of this influx of foreigners. 

[bluesmon]

How do they know how much tourists spent last month....?

[howbri]

Must be that "new" math. 2+2=5

[Jane Dough]

Contrary to many people on this thread banging on about lies and statistics, it is perfectly reasonable to suggest that the numbers are up year on year. The effects of the the Phoenix boat tragedy, in July 2018, were mostly felt by cancellations in August of last year. The question is whether the year on year increase can be maintained over the next few months compared to the general recovery after the cancellations from Phoenix. That is more debatable.

 

Rooster

[friend of siam]

19 hours ago, DrTuner said:

What they mean is number of foreign arrivals as per immigration in certain visa/exemption classes. Immigration isn't releasing data of the length of the stays, meaning any connecting travel that requires clearing immigration is counted as tourists. The figures aren't usable.

I think they count on the bases of the arrival cards...if u in transit u dont fill such a card...

for thai it does not matter from which country the tourists come...

thousands and thousands of Chinese group tours 5 days max..is ok....not the big spenders but still number is up....

if westerners decline cause of currency and environmental issues...( sea meditarean long time ago a rubbish basin is now Cristal clear....thai beaches / pattaya ...samui...kho chang...and nakkhorn area / down developed close to  klong quality ) thai government could not care less ..

soon a holiday in greece is cheaper than fly all the way to thailand...

the only asset Thai has is cheap mass prostitution...that still draws old men from around the world...everything else ( environment money security etc. ) most other countrys is far better...for chinese thailand is near and a group  tour chicken cage style is affordable to leave the treadmill for a short while...

last time I left through Suvarnabhumi the crowds there was shocking took me close to two hours to pass everything...so their statistics I think is accurate...indian chinese all over the place but only here and there a few westerners.. 

 

Edited September 11, 2019 by friend of siam

[DrTuner]

4 minutes ago, friend of siam said:

I think they count on the bases of the arrival cards...if u in transit u dont fill such a card...

You do if you transit to a regional airline, say you arrive with Thai at swampy and take a connecting with Air Asia from Don Muang. Or any other connecting method. I suspect quite a few have just a single overnight stay to wait for the connecting one. Impossible to say for sure though as only immigration has the stats and hasn't released them AFAIK.

[thhMan]

Up 5.6%

 

So thats 5 people and a child?

 

I think figures will become more accurate if those creating the statistics start using calculators... Doing it in their head, may not be the most efficient or accurate way of doing things... 

[johnarth]

are they telling all Thailand these stupid lies? well it is a good thing the general is safe now wow

[BestB]

For a month we heard nothing but bad news that tourism was down , Chinese were not coming , indians were going to save Thailand tourism , ministers were needing more time abroad , bars needed to stay open longer BUT as it turns out it was all fake news . The real news is not only tourism is doing well and up but even more than last year. 

 

Yippi????????????????????????

[traveller101]

Ok - I get it.

1. Tourist Numbers up x.xxxx%

    Spending up ×.××××%  OR

2. Tourist Numbers down 0.××××%

    but Spending up x.xxxx% OR

3. Chinese Tourists down but 

    Indian Tourists up and 

    SPENDING UUUP BY x.xxxx%

4. If Tourist Numbers down and            Spending not up, projected              Numbers of everything will be

    up by years end.

Blahblahblahblahblah - boring!

[Bruntoid]

23 hours ago, Fex Bluse said:

I learned from educated Thais that you never trust whatever is being claimed. 

 

Thais know themselves.

 

Any announcement needs to be met with suspicion and read between the lines. 

 

In Thailand there is a very weak attachment to truth, so words are fairly meaningless on their face. 

Racist ? Much ? 

[Bruntoid]

6 hours ago, Jane Dough said:

Contrary to many people on this thread banging on about lies and statistics, it is perfectly reasonable to suggest that the numbers are up year on year. The effects of the the Phoenix boat tragedy, in July 2018, were mostly felt by cancellations in August of last year. The question is whether the year on year increase can be maintained over the next few months compared to the general recovery after the cancellations from Phoenix. That is more debatable.

 

Rooster

Of course it’s reasonable - it might also be <deleted>. Who knows. 

 

Given I doubt a single poster in this thread has any connection whatsoever with the travelling Chinese community all the outpouring of incredulity is based on nothing at all. (Unless you have a trainspotter type counting them in at Swampy?) 

Edited September 11, 2019 by Bruntoid

[madmen]

2 hours ago, BestB said:

For a month we heard nothing but bad news that tourism was down , Chinese were not coming , indians were going to save Thailand tourism , ministers were needing more time abroad , bars needed to stay open longer BUT as it turns out it was all fake news . The real news is not only tourism is doing well and up but even more than last year. 

 

Yippi????????????????????????

Dude what is wrong? if you put half the effort in promoting you're broken "hotel" as you do trashing Thailand around the clock you may Even turn a profit ..

[moe666]

There was a little uptick here in CM during Aug. but now with the school season starting in the US, Europe, and the UK it has slowed once again and it does appear the chinese count is down from Aug. not many gathered at Thapae Gate