Israel must have freedom to act against Iran, Netanyahu says in Russia

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Israel must have freedom to act against Iran, Netanyahu says in Russia

 

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu looks on after delivering a statement in Ramat Gan, near Tel Aviv, Israel September 10, 2019. REUTERS/Amir Cohen

 

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Israel must be allowed to act freely against Iran, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Thursday during a visit to Sochi, where he met with Russian President Vladimir Putin to discuss security coordination in Syria.

 

The two leaders have met more than a dozen times in recent years and the countries' militaries have been working to avoid accidental clashes in Syria, where Israel says it has carried out hundreds of strikes against Iranian targets to stop Tehran establishing a permanent military presence there.

 

"Security coordination between us is always important, but it is especially important now, since in the past month there has been a serious increase in attempts by Iran to hit Israel from Syria and to place there precision missiles to use against us," Netanyahu said at the start of the meeting.

 

Iran and Iran-backed Lebanese militia Hezbollah have helped President Bashar al-Assad in the Syrian civil war. Russia, which is also aiding Assad, has largely turned a blind eye to the Israeli air strikes.

 

Russia's RIA news said Putin praised military and security cooperation between Russia and Israel.

 

Following the talks, which lasted for several hours, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said both Russia and Israel agreed to boost dialogue between their militaries in regards to Syria, Interfax news agency reported.

 

The news agency, also citing the minister, said that Putin and Netanyahu both underlined the need to safeguard Syria's territorial integrity and sovereignty.

 

After an earlier meeting with Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu, Netanyahu reiterated that for Israel to ensure its security, its military needed to have "freedom of action" against Iran in the region.

 

(Reporting by Vladimir Soldatkin and Ari Rabinovitch; Editing by Toby Chopra and Cynthia Osterman)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-09-13

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[ezzra]

Preaching to the choir.. Cramia, Chechnya Ukraine, Syria etc. etc... 

[wombat]

like the Nike slogan...
'Just Do It'

 

[nobodysfriend]

Of course , Israel has the right to protect itself when attacked .

But they have no right to attack somebody first ,  just to prevent any ' possible aggression ' from the outside .

This kind of behaviour only leads to more aggression .

[blazes]

54 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

Of course , Israel has the right to protect itself when attacked .

But they have no right to attack somebody first ,  just to prevent any ' possible aggression ' from the outside .

This kind of behaviour only leads to more aggression .

 

Since Israel is the only democratic country in the whole of the Arab world, it seems  a reasonably good idea to protect that status against all those surrounding countries that want to wipe Israel from the face of the Earth.

[Morch]

57 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said:

Of course , Israel has the right to protect itself when attacked .

But they have no right to attack somebody first ,  just to prevent any ' possible aggression ' from the outside .

This kind of behaviour only leads to more aggression .

 

Really.

 

So if Iran builds missile bases in Syria, right next to Israel, and nowhere near Iran - Israel ought to wait for them to be operational, protected and used before acting?

 

Or if Iran provides Lebanon's Hezbollah with rockets, missiles and precise guiding systems - Israel ought to quietly accept a hostile non-state organization massing up such offensive capabilities?

 

Wouldn't know that the standards you refer to apply in Middle East reality or given the status of relations between involved countries.

[BestB]

Russia also does not want Iranian bases in Syria and has openly said so numerous times . 

[spidermike007]

Israel has no rights whatever, to take pre-emptive strikes against Iran. And should they do so, it could be the end of the nation. Iran could crush Israel. Of course, the US would then be pulled into the war. But since the US has lost every war it has engaged in since WWII (sorry, but Grenada and Panama do not count), and nothing is a given, in that equation. It could also mean the end of America as we know it. It could end up escalating to a completely unforeseen level, quickly. As we know from recent history, the US has no vision and rarely is successful, when it comes to engaging other nations, and nation building. 

 

The US needs to slap down Israel in the strongest way possible, to prevent something like this from happening. Their leadership under Netanyahu is beyond abysmal. 

[toekneeroberts]

I am so sick and tired of Netanyhu and the Israelis thinking that international law does not apply to them, he's a lowlife war criminal that has attached himself to America like an unwanted tapeworm that remains out of sight while the host gets all of the nutrition sucked out of it without knowing it..and a metaphor that describes the US/Israeli relationship perfectly..All take, and no give.

 

 

Everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie and the Israelis have proven time and time again that they can't be trusted, and enough already with the constant reinforcing and reminding everyone that they are the only true Democracy in the Middle East, what a f*cking joke.

 

It becomes much funnier when you consider that they are also the only advanced country on earth that is occupying stolen sovereign land, murdering women and children that they believe to be sub human, bulldozing Palestinian homes at will and building illegal settlements on occupied land while holding them hostage on THEIR OWN LAND, in addition to building an Apartheid separation wall and limiting their movement and freedom...

 

ALL OF THESE ACTIONS ARE CARRIED OUT INTENTIONALLY, IN CLEAR AND BLATANT VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW.

 

Besides that, they constantly whine and complain about their enemy Arab neighbours all wanting to wipe Israel off the map, except there are none left:

Iraq, Syria, libya, Afghanistan have all been neutralized, although they had to keep Iran alive as a real live boogieman and they had the US rescind and tear up a perfectly good agreement to stop nuke program in exchange for the lifting of sanctions, but that took away the only remaining "threat" which would have potentially put the $4 Billion CASH PAYMENT  that Israel extorts from US Taxpayers every year under the guise of it being needed for "safety and security" this for a  country that has the fifth largest military in the world and a stockpile of OVER 200 NUCLEAR WEAPONS, which they refuse to admit they possess, and yet they managed to convince the world to reimpose crippling sanctions on Iran for no longer trying to develop A SINGLE SOLITARY NUKE to defend themselves from Israel, proven to be the most violent and aggressive country in the Middle East,at least against the Palestinians that are being ethically cleansed while their children got shot by IDF snipers for target practise and have illegal chemical weapons dropped on them from Apache Helicopters when they dare to protest being held captive and brutalized on their own land...and then called TERRORISTS for doing so.

 

Scumbags and cowards.

 

 

[BestB]

7 minutes ago, toekneeroberts said:

I am so sick and tired of Netanyhu and the Israelis thinking that international law does not apply to them, he's a lowlife war criminal that has attached himself to America like an unwanted tapeworm that remains out of sight while the host gets all of the nutrition sucked out of it without knowing it..and a metaphor that describes the US/Israeli relationship perfectly..All take, and no give.

 

 

Everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie and the Israelis have proven time and time again that they can't be trusted, and enough already with the constant reinforcing and reminding everyone that they are the only true Democracy in the Middle East, what a f*cking joke.

 

It becomes much funnier when you consider that they are also the only advanced country on earth that is occupying stolen sovereign land, murdering women and children that they believe to be sub human, bulldozing Palestinian homes at will and building illegal settlements on occupied land while holding them hostage on THEIR OWN LAND, in addition to building an Apartheid separation wall and limiting their movement and freedom...

 

ALL OF THESE ACTIONS ARE CARRIED OUT INTENTIONALLY, IN CLEAR AND BLATANT VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW.

 

Besides that, they constantly whine and complain about their enemy Arab neighbours all wanting to wipe Israel off the map, except there are none left:

Iraq, Syria, libya, Afghanistan have all been neutralized, although they had to keep Iran alive as a real live boogieman and they had the US rescind and tear up a perfectly good agreement to stop nuke program in exchange for the lifting of sanctions, but that took away the only remaining "threat" which would have potentially put the $4 Billion CASH PAYMENT  that Israel extorts from US Taxpayers every year under the guise of it being needed for "safety and security" this for a  country that has the fifth largest military in the world and a stockpile of OVER 200 NUCLEAR WEAPONS, which they refuse to admit they possess, and yet they managed to convince the world to reimpose crippling sanctions on Iran for no longer trying to develop A SINGLE SOLITARY NUKE to defend themselves from Israel, proven to be the most violent and aggressive country in the Middle East,at least against the Palestinians that are being ethically cleansed while their children got shot by IDF snipers for target practise and have illegal chemical weapons dropped on them from Apache Helicopters when they dare to protest being held captive and brutalized on their own land...and then called TERRORISTS for doing so.

 

Scumbags and cowards.

 

 

Amazing how much rubbish one can write in one post but since Israel refuses to admit , how exactly do you know there are 200 nukes? Or it’s in line with the rest of your post nothing but rubbish?

[BobBKK]

and Palestinians must have freedom to act against land stealing aggressors 

[sanemax]

12 hours ago, toekneeroberts said:

I am so sick and tired of Netanyhu and the Israelis thinking that international law does not apply to them, he's a lowlife war criminal that has attached himself to America like an unwanted tapeworm that remains out of sight while the host gets all of the nutrition sucked out of it without knowing it..and a metaphor that describes the US/Israeli relationship perfectly..All take, and no give.

 

 

Everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie and the Israelis have proven time and time again that they can't be trusted, and enough already with the constant reinforcing and reminding everyone that they are the only true Democracy in the Middle East, what a f*cking joke.

 

It becomes much funnier when you consider that they are also the only advanced country on earth that is occupying stolen sovereign land, murdering women and children that they believe to be sub human, bulldozing Palestinian homes at will and building illegal settlements on occupied land while holding them hostage on THEIR OWN LAND, in addition to building an Apartheid separation wall and limiting their movement and freedom...

 

ALL OF THESE ACTIONS ARE CARRIED OUT INTENTIONALLY, IN CLEAR AND BLATANT VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW.

 

Besides that, they constantly whine and complain about their enemy Arab neighbours all wanting to wipe Israel off the map, except there are none left:

Iraq, Syria, libya, Afghanistan have all been neutralized, although they had to keep Iran alive as a real live boogieman and they had the US rescind and tear up a perfectly good agreement to stop nuke program in exchange for the lifting of sanctions, but that took away the only remaining "threat" which would have potentially put the $4 Billion CASH PAYMENT  that Israel extorts from US Taxpayers every year under the guise of it being needed for "safety and security" this for a  country that has the fifth largest military in the world and a stockpile of OVER 200 NUCLEAR WEAPONS, which they refuse to admit they possess, and yet they managed to convince the world to reimpose crippling sanctions on Iran for no longer trying to develop A SINGLE SOLITARY NUKE to defend themselves from Israel, proven to be the most violent and aggressive country in the Middle East,at least against the Palestinians that are being ethically cleansed while their children got shot by IDF snipers for target practise and have illegal chemical weapons dropped on them from Apache Helicopters when they dare to protest being held captive and brutalized on their own land...and then called TERRORISTS for doing so.

 

Scumbags and cowards.

 

 

That has nothing to do with the topic .

Once again , any story involving Israel and the story is ignored and posters go on anti Israel rants .

[sanemax]

12 hours ago, BobBKK said:

and Palestinians must have freedom to act against land stealing aggressors 

New thread is required with a new topic

[PhonThong]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Israel has no rights whatever, to take pre-emptive strikes against Iran. And should they do so, it could be the end of the nation. Iran could crush Israel. Of course, the US would then be pulled into the war. But since the US has lost every war it has engaged in since WWII (sorry, but Grenada and Panama do not count), and nothing is a given, in that equation. It could also mean the end of America as we know it. It could end up escalating to a completely unforeseen level, quickly. As we know from recent history, the US has no vision and rarely is successful, when it comes to engaging other nations, and nation building. 

 

The US needs to slap down Israel in the strongest way possible, to prevent something like this from happening. Their leadership under Netanyahu is beyond abysmal. 

Do you really think Israel doesn't have nukes? 

[spidermike007]

58 minutes ago, PhonThong said:

Do you really think Israel doesn't have nukes? 

No question Israel has nukes. Who cares? Iran could destroy them. 

[sanemax]

12 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

No question Israel has nukes. Who cares? Iran could destroy them. 

How could Iran destroy Israels nukes ?

[spidermike007]

Just now, sanemax said:

How could Iran destroy Israels nukes ?

Israel would be very hesitate to use its nukes on Iran. If it did, it would become an international pariah overnight and the American Jewish support would evaporate. Iran could wage massive cyber warfare against Israel as well as sponsoring terror events, which could bring the country and it's economy to its knees. Most people consistently under estimate Iran. Bad mistake. They would be a very formidable adversary. 

[sanemax]

12 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Israel would be very hesitate to use its nukes on Iran. If it did, it would become an international pariah overnight and the American Jewish support would evaporate. Iran could wage massive cyber warfare against Israel as well as sponsoring terror events, which could bring the country and it's economy to its knees. Most people consistently under estimate Iran. Bad mistake. They would be a very formidable adversary. 

Yes , but you didnt answer the question .

Iran already sponsors terrorism and Israel has defensive's against cyber warfare .

   So , how would Iran destroy Israels nukes ?

[BestB]

29 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

No question Israel has nukes. Who cares? Iran could destroy them. 

You actually believe if Iran could they would not have tried already?

 

 

[Chazar]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

But since the US has lost every war it has engaged in since WWII

Because it had the control to not go nuclear, which really would have ended those other wars at vast cost but ended them it would and they certainly do have that capability.

[BestB]

40 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Israel would be very hesitate to use its nukes on Iran. If it did, it would become an international pariah overnight and the American Jewish support would evaporate. Iran could wage massive cyber warfare against Israel as well as sponsoring terror events, which could bring the country and it's economy to its knees. Most people consistently under estimate Iran. Bad mistake. They would be a very formidable adversary. 

If Iran is so advanced according to you , any reason why Israel knows every move Iran makes , including its nuke sites and have planted bugs in Iranian software plenty of times in the past.

[billd766]

9 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

Of course , Israel has the right to protect itself when attacked .

But they have no right to attack somebody first ,  just to prevent any ' possible aggression ' from the outside .

This kind of behavior only leads to more aggression .

That would also mean also has the freedom to act against Israel.

[BestB]

12 minutes ago, billd766 said:

That would also mean also has the freedom to act against Israel.

Supplying weapons to proxies like hezbollah and hamas is not acting against Israel?

[bangrak]

9 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

Of course , Israel has the right to protect itself when attacked .

But they have no right to attack somebody first ,  just to prevent any ' possible aggression ' from the outside .

This kind of behaviour only leads to more aggression .

...1967 ?

[sanemax]

22 hours ago, nobodysfriend said:

Of course , Israel has the right to protect itself when attacked .

But they have no right to attack somebody first ,  just to prevent any ' possible aggression ' from the outside .

This kind of behaviour only leads to more aggression .

IF  a  preemptive attack stops a nuclear war , then those attacks would cause less violence and aggression

[emptypockets]

 

3 hours ago, toekneeroberts said:

I am so sick and tired of Netanyhu and the Israelis thinking that international law does not apply to them, he's a lowlife war criminal that has attached himself to America like an unwanted tapeworm that remains out of sight while the host gets all of the nutrition sucked out of it without knowing it..and a metaphor that describes the US/Israeli relationship perfectly..All take, and no give.

 

 

Everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie and the Israelis have proven time and time again that they can't be trusted, and enough already with the constant reinforcing and reminding everyone that they are the only true Democracy in the Middle East, what a f*cking joke.

 

It becomes much funnier when you consider that they are also the only advanced country on earth that is occupying stolen sovereign land, murdering women and children that they believe to be sub human, bulldozing Palestinian homes at will and building illegal settlements on occupied land while holding them hostage on THEIR OWN LAND, in addition to building an Apartheid separation wall and limiting their movement and freedom...

 

ALL OF THESE ACTIONS ARE CARRIED OUT INTENTIONALLY, IN CLEAR AND BLATANT VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL LAW.

 

Besides that, they constantly whine and complain about their enemy Arab neighbours all wanting to wipe Israel off the map, except there are none left:

Iraq, Syria, libya, Afghanistan have all been neutralized, although they had to keep Iran alive as a real live boogieman and they had the US rescind and tear up a perfectly good agreement to stop nuke program in exchange for the lifting of sanctions, but that took away the only remaining "threat" which would have potentially put the $4 Billion CASH PAYMENT  that Israel extorts from US Taxpayers every year under the guise of it being needed for "safety and security" this for a  country that has the fifth largest military in the world and a stockpile of OVER 200 NUCLEAR WEAPONS, which they refuse to admit they possess, and yet they managed to convince the world to reimpose crippling sanctions on Iran for no longer trying to develop A SINGLE SOLITARY NUKE to defend themselves from Israel, proven to be the most violent and aggressive country in the Middle East,at least against the Palestinians that are being ethically cleansed while their children got shot by IDF snipers for target practise and have illegal chemical weapons dropped on them from Apache Helicopters when they dare to protest being held captive and brutalized on their own land...and then called TERRORISTS for doing so.

 

Scumbags and cowards.

 

 

Yeah, but apart from that they're not a bad bunch.

[Morch]

4 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Israel has no rights whatever, to take pre-emptive strikes against Iran. And should they do so, it could be the end of the nation. Iran could crush Israel. Of course, the US would then be pulled into the war. But since the US has lost every war it has engaged in since WWII (sorry, but Grenada and Panama do not count), and nothing is a given, in that equation. It could also mean the end of America as we know it. It could end up escalating to a completely unforeseen level, quickly. As we know from recent history, the US has no vision and rarely is successful, when it comes to engaging other nations, and nation building. 

 

The US needs to slap down Israel in the strongest way possible, to prevent something like this from happening. Their leadership under Netanyahu is beyond abysmal. 

 

I kinda doubt you're an expert on said "rights", so making them big decisive statements is mostly hot air.

 

To date, Israel seems to have avoided physical attacks in Iranian territory, focusing instead on Iran's efforts to deploy forces and means nearer to Israel itself. Apparently, for yourself and others, such actions by the Iranians are totally legit, and do not contribute to the region's instability. '

 

Could Iran "crush" Israel? I kinda doubt it as such, not without gravely risking Iran, at least. If things were anywhere as clear cut as your wish them to be, Iran would have already taken action by now - and Israel would have been far more careful with its own.

 

The usual bit of meaningless nonsense about the USA not winning wars is still meaningless. Without a clear indication of what amounts to a decisive victory, what counts as a major war, and accounting for the changing nature of both wars and perceptions of victory - it shall remain nothing but a mindless meme.

 

Scaremongering about the "end of America as we know it" is on par with other hysterical rants you've posted in the past.

 

Netanyahu's leadership is dismal, and openly placing Israel at the forefront of efforts to curtail Iran's regional ambitions is a mistake. It still doesn't make all of Israel's actions in this regard wrong, or even unjustified.

[Morch]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Israel would be very hesitate to use its nukes on Iran. If it did, it would become an international pariah overnight and the American Jewish support would evaporate. Iran could wage massive cyber warfare against Israel as well as sponsoring terror events, which could bring the country and it's economy to its knees. Most people consistently under estimate Iran. Bad mistake. They would be a very formidable adversary. 

 

Iran is already engaged in activities on these two fronts (terrorism and cyber warfare) targeting Israel. So far, not much success at bringing Israel and/or its economy down to its knees.

 

I wouldn't know most people consistently underestimate Iran, but I do know that hyping Iran's supposed capabilities is a feature of your scaremongering rants.

[Morch]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

That would also mean also has the freedom to act against Israel.

 

And yet, don't see all that much outrage expressed by posters when Iran or it's proxies act against Israel.

[Spike1938]

On 9/13/2019 at 9:01 AM, blazes said:

 

Since Israel is the only democratic country in the whole of the Arab world, it seems  a reasonably good idea to protect that status against all those surrounding countries that want to wipe Israel from the face of the Earth.

Israel is now increasingly under influence and control by the ultra orthodox Jews making it less and less democratic. I am an American born into the Jewish culture and am utterly opposed to the aggressive policies of the Netan-yahoo government. I am glad to say that it appears that more and more, especially young, Jews are taking up that position.